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File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation
Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
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MEMORANDUM
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
PARTICIPANTS:
Dzemal Bijedic, President,
Federal Executive Council, Yugoslavia
Milos Minic, Federal Secretary for
Foreign Affairs, Yugoslavia
President Ford
Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State
and Assistant to the President
for National Security Affairs
Lt. Gen. Brent Scowcroft, Deputy Assistant
to the President for National Security Affairs
DATE AND TIME:
Monday, August 4, 1975
Breakfast
PLACE:
President's Guest Palace
Belgrade, Yugoslavia
[The press comes in to take photos and then leaves].
40/01/8
President: We had hoped to spend more time here but we had a commitment
to meet with the Japanese Prime Minister in Washington which could not be
adjusted.
Bijedic: I hope you can come again when you have more time.
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Minic: We hope so.
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Kissinger: This area has a fascinating history. I have always thought about
writing a book on the six weeks prior to the beginning of World War I. The
major point is how the military and diplomatic events ran away from the
decision-makers.
DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 12958, SEC. 3.5
[There is a discussion of World War I. Also of World War II and the
delay caused by Hitler invading Yugoslavia to help the Italians. There was
some discussion of the events of World War II in Yugoslavia. ]
CLASSIFIED BY HENRY A. KISSINGER
BY
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
EXEMPT FROM GENERAL DECLASSIFICATION
SCHEDULE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11652
EXEMPTION CATEGORY 5 (b) (1,3)
AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED ON Imp. to det.
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
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Bijedic: Mihajlovic even accepted our concept of the fighting and that
led him into treasonable activities.
Minic: I was the attorney for the Government at his trial.
Bijedic: The Germans, Italians, Bulgarians and Austrians -- we had
to fight them all, and inside enemies also.
Kissinger: Did the Germans actually set up an independent Croatian state?
Bijedic: Yes.
Silberman: It included Bosnia-Herzegovina and Voivodina.
Kissinger: The old Austrian Empire.
Silberman: Except Slovenia was incorporated into the Reich and Italy.
President: Is there anything you would especially like to discuss?
Bijedic: We are very satisfied with the development of our relations,
In the event of any difficulty, we would appreciate yours and the Secretary's
assistance.
President: We want a strong Yugoslavia. And I told you if any problems
did develop you should come directly to Secretary Kissinger and break any
bottleneck.
Bijedic: Thank you, Mr. President.
President: What is your reaction about Helsinki? Will the promises
be implemented before the Belgrade conference?
Minic: We hope so, at least partially. As I told Secretary Kissinger
in the car, the spirit of Helsinki could be furthered if there are some
practical results. I mentioned Cyprus, the Middle East, SALT and
Vienna. That would greatly assist prospects for our next meeting.
Kissing er: We certainly will have results in the Middle East within two
years. I told the Foreign Minister we should have one over the next
month. If we can't do it by then, it can't be done -- - if the rhetoric can
be cooled.
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
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Minic: Is the rhetoric that difficult?
Kissinger: Egypt has been quite restrained, but not Israel. At some
point Egypt may reply, and then we have a mess. But the situation should
be negotiable at the present time.
President: I am not sure the American public is fully aware of the danger
of war if progress is not made. I say it frequently, but.
I am fully
convinced of it.
Minic: We share your feeling. This situation encourages the radical
Arabs and probably also the Israelis. Now there is a move to throw
Israel out of the UN.
Kissinger: There is no way for a settlement if that happens. We can't
expect them to rely on UNEF when they're not in the UN. The nonaligned
are playing right into the hands of the radical Israelis. They would love
to have Israel isolated this way, whipping up American public opinion.
But I know Syria is stirring this up -- against Egypt though, not Israel.
Minic: I was in Syria. They are worried they will be left out of a settlement.
President: If Israel is kicked out of the UN, they will be a martyr in the
eyes of the American people and all the focus will be on the wrong issues.
But if the focus is on Israel's intransigence, the American people will not
support that.
Silberman: Bijedic told me last week that Yugoslavia opposed the expulsion
of Israel.
Minic: Something should be done before the Lima Conference of the Nonaligned
because that would enable the moderates to control the situation.
Kissinger: Is the Lima meeting the 25-29 of August? It will be touch-and-go
trying to finish the negotiation by then. We can let you know ahead of time
what our expectations are. If I go to the Middle East, you can be sure the
chances of success will be 90 percent.
Bijedic: Regardless of our good intentions, if there is deterioration, the
situation will get out of control and we won't be able to manage it. That
is why we think some move before Lima would help.
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
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Minic: We feel this is a critical month. The Arabs too are of two minds --
conflict or peaceful resolution.
Among the non-aligned there is a firm belief that if the United States
pushed harder, something could be done with Israel.
Kissinger: We have to stop short of a domestic explosion in America, because
then nothing would be done. But we have used pressure. The President
has probably written more letters to Israel than to any other country.
President: We are supposed to have further meetings.
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
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