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MEMORANDUM
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
SECRET / NODIS / XGDS
MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
PARTICIPANTS:
PRESIDENT FORD
Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of
State and Assistant to the President
Lt. General Brent Scowcroft, Deputy
assistant to the President
DATE AND TIME:
Thursday, November 13, 1975
9:40 a. m.
PLACE:
Oval Office
Kissinger: The Chinese offered to postpone the Korean vote in the UN. I
told Moynihan to accept right away. But he waited 10 days until yesterday
and the Chinese said it was too late. I will plug away with Moynihan because
he is a real asset, but it is tough.
We had a letter from Schmidt on his talks with Brezhnev. Brezhnev said he
is discouraged with the pace of the SALT negotiations. They are getting the
impression that certain circles in the U.S. are making one-sided judgments.
They said they understand President Ford's problems with the Congress, but
SALT is too important to be used that way, and would Schmidt help. Then they
gave a long explanation that they also have to have forces to defend against the
Chinese. They must be referring to Backfire.
The President: Don will need educating. Let's have a meeting when he gets
confirmed.
Kissinger: Clements said he and Brown had worked out something that I
would find interesting. It might be better if it comes not from Don. I origin-
ally thought we should delay on SALT, but I think now the problems will only
get worse.
The President: I think Don should concentrate on SALT and let Clements
manage.
CLASSIFIED BY Henry A. Kissinger
DECLASSIFIED
EXEMPT FROM GENERAL DECLASSIFICATION
E.O. 12958, Sec. 3.5
SCHEDULE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11652
State Dept. Guidelines state Review 3/11/04
EXEMPTION CATEGORY 5 (B) 1 (3)
By
, NARA, Date 6/4/04
AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED ON Imp. to det.
File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
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Kissinger: And now that Schlesinger is gone, I have no problem with taking
a Defense representative with me to Moscow.
President: I am glad we have a Schlesinger-recommended force program in
case SALT fails. It doesn't look so good.
Kissinger: What would you do about Franco's death? Would you stop by the
funeral on your way to Paris? I think I would send the Vice President --
then we might have to send him to the coronation also.
President: I wouldn't rule out my going to the coronation. I could sleep
on the plane and go over and straight back.
Kissinger: [Discussion of floating interest rates. ] I think they give us a
tremendous advantage and force the others to unite against us.
President: I have read that some people think floating rates are a spur to
inflation.
Kissinger: The Soviets are pouring in equipment in Angola. Brent, I hope
you will be tough.
President: Is there anything you want to tell me about Jorgensen?
Kissinger: A colossal bore. They are worried about the small nations
being cut out on economics, but we should stay out of that one.
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