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File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
MEMORANDUM
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
PARTICIPANTS:
President Ford
President Jaafar Muhammad Nimeiri of the
Sudan
Mansur Khalid, Minister of Education
Dr. Francis M. Deng, Minister of State for
Foreign Affairs
Charles W. Robinson, Acting Secretary of State
Brent Scowcroft, Assistant to the President for
National Security Affairs
DATE AND TIME:
Thursday, June 10, 1976
10:34 - 11:20 a. m.
PLACE:
The Oval Office
[The press comes in, takes pictures, and then departs.
]
President: Will you be starting your tour right away?
Nimeiri: Yes. We will start out in Tennessee.
President: Please give Governor Blanton my regards.
GUIDELINES
It is very nice to have you here. You will get a friendly reception
$
BY MARA. 8/13/04
as you travel through the United States.
DATE
We very much appreciate what you did to achieve the release of the
five Americans that were held by the Eritreans. The American people
are very grateful.
FORD
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We hope our relations can improve both bilaterally and in inter-
national forums. I would be very grateful for your observations on the
areas of our mutual concern. I know you just met with King Khalid,
GERALD
Prince Fahd and President Sadat and I would be interested in your
observations on these as well.
CLASSIFIED
BY BRENT SCOWCROFT
EXEMPT FROM GENERAL DECLASSIFICATION
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
SCHEDULE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11652
EXEMPTION CATEGORY 5 (b) (1, 3)
AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED ON Imp. to det.
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
2.
Nimeiri: Thank you very much, Mr. President. I know I will enjoy my
trip.
I would like to talk first about the Sudan. We are now in a position
of unity and stability. We had help from friendly states in ending the
Civil War which lasted 17 years. Now we are trying to develop and we
are making a good start. We have a big country, with nine neighbors
with many problems like we have. It is a big job just working with all
our neighbors.
We look to the United States to help us in our program of develop-
ment of the country and the area. We have some good friends in the
area - Egypt and Saudi Arabia. We seek peace and stability in the area
and the elimination of foreign influence. In 1971 the Communist organi-
zations started to attack me and imprisoned me for three days. So I
eliminated them. There was a huge Communist campaign against us by
all the Communist world. We eliminated them by ourselves, but we
think we are a target of them in Africa. The Egyptians are with us, but
the Communists are working through Libya.
President: President Sadat told me about the Libyans.
Nimeiri: I told President Sadat for three years about the Soviet Union
before he found out for himself.
I told King Khalid and President Sadat that I would be talking to
you. We all agreed that the danger in the area was big power interference.
We agreed the Red Sea and Indian Ocean should not be under Soviet
influence.
If we leave Ethiopia alone, they will be dominated by the
Communists. You have had good relations with the Ethiopians. We must
work to eliminate the Eritrean problem because that is the vehicle for
the Soviets to get in. You have traditionally had a close military relation-
ship with them; now they have started to train their military in the Soviet
Union. We have told them to stop fighting the Eritreans and to start
training them and integrating them. The Ethiopians did it last week but
the Eritreans don't know whether to trust them. They want more
guarantees. We think we can work with the Eritreans to accept the idea
of autonomy within one country. If it goes on the way it has it will create
big problems for my country.
We are getting help from many countries for the private sector to
come into Sudan to help our development. If there is no security they won't
come.
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
GERALD
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
3.
President: I understand you have great agriculture potential.
Nimeiri: Yes. The Arab Fund has given us $6 billion for 10 years.
We are doing well, but we must have peace. I am working to get Saudi
Arabia, Egypt, and us, together with you, to help us in development.
Khalid: Sudan has great potential. We have 200 million acres of
arable land. We need stability, funds, and the technical knowhow. We
have stability now and need to maintain it. We are getting funds from
the Arabs. We would now like the Western technicians to complete
this trilateral project.
President: Is the UN helping?
Khalid: The World Bank is.
Nimeiri: We are working toward irrigation and the mechanics of agri-
culture.
President: What is your appraisal of the situation in Djibouti?
Nimeiri: As we told the French, we think Djibouti should have self-
determination in which Somalia and Ethiopia should not interfere. Then
there should be a guarantee which would keep Somalia and Ethiopia
away. Perhaps the French, with the Arab League, could guarantee this.
President: Is Somalia dominated by the Soviet Union or is it still
independent?
Nimeiri: We have told them they have more Soviet aid than they need
for all of Africa. They tell us no, they don't have that much - -- just for
their own needs. We know the Soviet Union continues to move men and
equipment in.
We know the Soviet Union is advising the Ethiopians to wipe out the
Eritreans. That is very bad advice and no way to solve the problem.
President: We appreciate your support of the Sinai Agreement. The
situation in Lebanon we consider serious. We understand that the Arab
League has agreed on an inter-Arab force and the Libyans and Algerians
have sent troops to Syria.
FORD
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
4.
Nimeiri: The Arab League has voted for a force of six states to go in.
This won't solve the problem, because the Phalangists are not a party
to it. But the only way to succeed is really to take the arms away from
all the combatants. Libya already has some forces there. It would be
better if it were someone other than Libya.
President: We are pleased to know we are working together for your
development. We will do what we can to support you with PL-480 and
economic assistance. We will encourage private enterprise to go in and
we are pleased that our improved bilateral relations make this possible.
Nimeiri: We would hope that Ethiopia could be a priority issue for you.
We think the regime is moving without plans. The solution is negotiations
that is what we support. We feel the same about Geneva for the Middle
East.
President: We certainly think the Middle East momentum has to be
maintained. You are familiar with the PLO issue, which is an obstacle, but
eventually we think there must be a meeting at Geneva. Maybe we should
not negotiate right now, with the crisis in Lebanon, but that is our aim
and objective -- to work with all the parties to continue toward peace.
Nimeiri: President Sadat told me he has strong faith in your aims. He
thinks this year is a preparatory year because of your elections, but
next year will be better.
President: I think you are right. We have to be practical, but at the
same time we are determined not to let up -- and we have in the mean-
time to keep peace in the area.
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