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File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library MEMORANDUM THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON SECRET/NODIS/XGDS MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION PARTICIPANTS: President Ford Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State Brent Scowcroft, Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs DATE AND TIME: Thursday, September 2, 1976 5:40 - 6:46 p.m. PLACE: The Oval Office Kissinger: Nyerere has called all the chiefs and guerrilla leaders for a meeting 5-6 September - -- including Neto. I have come to the con- clusion I should come back here first. Nyerere thinks we are doing it for political purposes anyway. I had our Ambassador disabuse him of that. The President: That's right. NSC MEMO, 11/24/00, STATE GUIDELINES, 3/13/04 State Review Kissinger: Nyerere has asked that we do nothing in Rhodesia until this meeting is over. On Namibia, we are almost all set. But when all their group get together, heaven only knows what will happen. I think it is too risky for me to go on my original schedule. I would send Schaufele, E.O. 12958, SEC. 3.5 NARA, DATE 7/20/04 and then if everything looks okay, I will only have lost four days. If Nyerere urges me to come on schedule, we at least will have that psychological advantage. DECLASSIFIED Some people will say we have failed, but it is better than taking a chance on the outcome of the meeting. [The President and Secretary Kissinger go out for a press photo and then return. [There is some talk about Carter, Portillo, Echeverria and devaluation. BY CLASSIFIED BY Brent Scowerft EXEMPT FROM GENERAL DECLASSIFICATION SECRET/NODIS/XGDS SCHEDULE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11652 EXEMPTION CATEGORY 58(1,3) AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED ON Imp. to det. SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS 2 Kissinger: What do you think about my schedule that way? It's safer, and it would teach them we are not over-anxious. The President: No, I think you are right. Why is Nyerere doing this? Kissinger: That's positive. He thinks our strategy might work, but he doesn't know whether he can control the Africans. The President: So he has to see whether or not he can deliver. Kissinger: Exactly. And that is why he said we shouldn't do anything while his meeting is going on. I should warn you that if he can't control it, they may issue a blast that the imperialists are trying to control the blacks but they will continue the fight. The President: Can we use the UN thing to get Neto in line? Kissinger: I don't think we can really do it that precisely. Let's just wait and see how it works for now. Since I may be back, B'nai B'rith will want me to speak. You should say: "We had some difficulty on the Sinai but it worked out. 11 If you promise them a little less than they want to hear, you will be better off. Defend the step-by-step. Compare where we were in 1973 and where we are today. Compare where Israel was in 1973 and where they are today. On Law of the Sea. What I tried to do is change the perception that we were at fault and dragging our feet. That is why I announced the changes in our position. I think it worked. The President of the Conference is going to issue a single text at the end. We have agreement on the economic zone and scientific research, but not on deep seabeds. But Amerasinghe will put our scheme in the single text. But for the next session, we should deal at our level, because a lot of these delegates are uninstructed. We can line up the heads of state. We can claim credit for the single text and for success on the economic zone and scientific research. You might want to send the President a letter of congratulations at the progress at the end of the conference. SECRET/NODIS/XGDS SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS 3 [Chitchat about Carter, Schlesinger. Kissinger: Did you notice the Christian Science Monitor article on SALT? The President: Yes, I don't know where the God damn thing came from. Kissinger: I don't know what you want to do on SALT. I am not pushing it but if you want to do something, we should have it ready by the time Gromyko gets here. The President: I need to read back into SALT. When does Gromyko come? Kissinger: About the 23rd. Mind you, I am not pushing it. I think it is probably better to wait. Scowcroft: Even if we gave a proposal to Gromyko, there is almost no chance to complete negotiations before November. Kissinger: That is right. And to get a proposal, you would have to beat up on the bureaucracy and that would surely leak. It isn't worth it, but after November you must change the system. No President has had to put up with what you have had to endure. The President: What about that Ikle speech? Kissinger: That's a good example. 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