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004461 DEPARTMENT OF STATE s/s Memorandum of Conversation 246 254 DATE: September 14, 1949 SUBJECT: Conversations with Count Sforza on the Atlantic Pact PARTICIPANTS: Count Sforza Ambassador Tarchiani Mr. Acheson corf Mr. Achilles Mr. Unger COPIES TO: Mr. Batterthwaite XXXXXXXX ARCHIVES RECORDS AND SERVICE" 1-1492 Sforza began a long plea for a change in the mili- tary arrangements under the Atlantic Pact. He urged that Italy should be on the standing committee, but after I explained to him the difficulties in this regard he modified this to a request that Italy become a full mem- ber of the Western European Group, as well as a member of the Southern European Council. He said he thought that while there was no longer a direct danger of Italy's becoming communist, there are strong nationalist elements in Italy who alone or in league with the communists might cause trouble among the population. The Italian people fear that by Italy's not being responsible for the Western European defenses, it will find itself having no say what- ever in the disposition of its own forces and military effort and unable to assure that its eastern land fron- tier would receive the same consideration as that of northwestern Europe. Mr. Achilles pointed out that UK, US, and Frence were vitally concerned with the defense of Italy and that this fact, plus Italy's membership in the Southern Buropean-Western Mediterranean Group, would insure that their interests were taken care of. Sforza renewed his plea and urged that some formula be worked out which would reassure the Italian people that all of Italy will be defended. I said we could not come to a conclusion on this today, but that we would discuss it further with him, tomorrow. DECLASSIFIED E. O. 11652, Sec. 3(E) and 5(D) or (B) Depc. of State letter, Aug.9.1973 7.23.25 EUR:BC:LLSatterthwaite By NLT-2/c NARS Date 4.27.76

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