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num ARCHIVES S. "NATIONAL RECORDS AMD SERVICE* - 2 - Governor Dewey stated that in the past he thought we had used in China people who were not familiar with oriental psychology and that it would be desirable to utilize Chinese like Jimmy Lee. He also suggested that we should work with T. V. Soong and that Soong might be induced to persuade the General- issimo to fade out of the picture. As an alternative, he proposed that we might have Henry Luce travel "quietly" to China to use his influence with the Generalissimo. The general objective would be to have Chiang Kai-Shek retire into exile from China but not to the United States or to France. The Governor stated that he was in agreement with the general outline of the present situation which I had made and recognized that we would not be in a position to take public action which would quiet the opposition. He said, for his part, he did not intend to agitate the subject and that his speech this spring was the last he would say about it. Governor Dewey also asked about the situation in Formosa and I explained to him the very unsatisfactory state of affairs there which was again largely due to the personal controls exercised by the Generalissimo. The Governor expressed the hope that Formosa would not also be lost. Governor Dewey then commented on the general situation throughout the rest of Asia and the need for strengthening anti-communist elements there. He said that some time ago we had lost our position in the world of moral leadership which had accompanied our championing of freedom and the underdog. He felt that our very recent policy had started a ma jor reversal of the trend of the past few years and expressed entire agreement with the policy of championing nationalism as the approach to capturing the imagination of the Asiatic peoples in the face of communist propaganda. He inquired whether I had discussed the situation in Indochina with Mr. Schuman and I told him that I had. He said that he expected to see Schuman and would be glad to try to persuade him along any lines I felt necessary. I told him that Schuman himself did not need persuading but did need reinforcement of the arguments which he would have to make to his own people in Paris. The chief points were that the French Parliament must ratify the March 8th agreements with Bao Dai, transfer the handling of Indochinese affairs from the Colonial Office to the Foreign Office, and allow the Bao Dai Government more freedom and authority in the conduct of foreign affairs. All of this, I pointed out, was necessary as a prelude to recognition by the siatic governments which ought to precede any recognition by the United States or the other Western Powers. Governor Dewey expressed full agreement with this line of thought. While somewhat critical of our "harsh" attitude toward the Dutch in Indo- nesia, the Governor said that he had been able to exercise a calming influence upon them when he had discussed the matter with then on his visit to Europe last summer. Governor Dewey inquired whether the Republican members of the Senate and House understood the basic problems involved in our Far Eastern policy. I told him that some did and some did not. I said that I had had a number of talks with Senator Vandenberg and believed he understood it fully, but that I was

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