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the Chinese Communists should take place before people make speeches
on the 6-power resolution. This suggested the desirability of some
interval.
There was discussion as to whether the Chinese would be present.
It was pointed out that, if the matter were handled in the Political
Committee, the Chinese would be there since the Committee had already
agreed to have them present for the discussion of any question in which
they were interested. On the other hand, there is no procedure for
inviting outsiders to the Plenary in the General Assembly, and it
would be difficult to do this. The Secretary thought it was not too
important to sound out the Chinese. As a matter of fact, this had
already been done by Sir. B. N. Rau who was to receive an answer on
the sixth. The tone of the debate ought to be sober and would not
be affected by the Chinese view just as it would not affect them or
their attitude. If we get the item on the agenda today, the debate
could begin tomorrow and then someone could put in the cease-fire
resolution.
There was also discussion of the possible necessity of a
resolution in the Security Council to take the item off the agenda.
Mr. Hickerson pointed out with Tsiang as President this month this
might get us into a long and unfortunate debate in the Security
Council and this should be avoided. It was agreed that Mr. Hickerson
and Mr. Younger would sound out the views of the French and the
Norwegians in New York and see whether this technicality could be
dispensed with.
Mr. Younger pointed out it was possible to begin the debate
in the General Assembly regardless of Security Council action.
He, however, expressed some doubt as to whether the resolution should
be filed today. He suggested that certain changes ought to be made.
He thought the part of it relating to the Chinese border now would
seem rather silly although it was applicable to the question of
bombing. Mr. Hickerson thought it desirable to leave it alone
except for a f ew editorial changes and Sir Oliver supported this
to show that we had not altered the attitude which we had already
taken in the Security Council.
Sir Oliver suggested that, in the discussion of the Far Eastern
question this afternoon, we should face the fundamental difficulties
of view. The attitudes of the two governments on current action are
conditioned by their long-range views on China. These views are
different. We needn't try to find a complete accommodation on the
long-range results, but at least the United States should make the
United Kingdom say what they think a bout China and then the United
States should
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