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7/8/53 - Wire I -- p. 1 DA Tonight I thought we might go ahead with some general sessions which we were carrying on at the last meeting and then tomorrow morning get into the beginning of the actual. things that we did in the first part of Feburary 1949. And the whole way in which we have been conducting these meetings for those, Dean Rusk and Paul who have just arrived, is to break in and interrupt this and put in any ideas you have as we go along. I was checking at the end of the last meeting about some ideasof the administration and organization, of the affect of Mr. Truman's recent allergy and some others on the situation and I thought I'd go ahead with xix that. And the first thing I want to talk about tonight is-some ideas which continually trip up everybody who works in the field of Foreign Affairs. These ideas that have to do with organization -- there is one which comes up every time a new administration comes in, every time a new personality comes in to this whole field, which is a very captivating idea and I think it is a completely erroneous destructive one. Others may have different ideas about it. That comes from a concentration on a logical idea of symmetry and the fault is that you must get everything of a like character together and in one organization. And the people who think this way and the likeness is it has to do with Foreign Affairs and, therefore, they want to put them together. They immediately distinction make one, or begin to make and that is that political Foreign Affairs are the historic activity of the State Department and they have to be left alone, but all other Foreigh Affairs, whether they are economic, financial but propagandic occasions, whatever they may be, all must be in some other kind of Then there is some other extra little difference of how many organizat ions you create because they all report to the President and that's the unifying effect that influence the administrative techniques and, therefore it will be all right. Now it seems to me that in practice there is a great ? many things wrong with this. The very problem is like to what. You say everything that is alike must be put in one organization. Alike to what. For this say all overseas economic operations are like and, therefore, they must be in one place. A thing which they immediately skip is that all domestic operations are not alike in the same way they are not n one organization -- you have the Treasury, the Agriculture, the Department of Commerce, the Federal Reserve Board and every thing else, but if you got a little bit of salt water or some fresh water between what you are doing and the place where it is directed, then