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State Department and not at your level, then leave it alone. But unless you do it that
khat
way -- I found/out about far eastern affairs when I first went in there -- they were in a
high state of demoralization just on that point.
Da
That's very true, and it goes beyond this particular issue. It goes beyond the
impact of criticism on the individual. One of the great problems which you and I have
talked about is that, if you ask a general question -- I mean a question of honor, a
policy -- you won't find out from an area what should be done. Even though it may not
bring any criticism on them, by the time they worked this paper up they have all decided
what the New York Times would say, what can be done with Congress and they get all these
political judgments in the thing so that, as Dean says, by the time it gets to him or to
when
me
I take it to the President, we have so warded it down that he doesn't
get foreign policy advice. He gets an inexpert view as to what could have been done --
Q
that he couldn't get away
Democratic National Committee.
DA
That's right.
Q
So true.
DA
What we all tried to do with these people was to tell them exactly what Dean has
said, "Now you stop being politicians and stop reading Walter Lipman, you tell us from
your professional point of view what ought to be done insofar as Indo-China is concerned."
The discounting will take place in the discount office but not in your office. That's
very true.
a
DA
It happens over and over and over again.
Q
On thés whole matter of testifying before Congress and so on, has this raised a
problem in your mind as to whether there should be many cases of permanent career officers
given Presidential appointments. It seems to me we've seen some cases of late of the
permanent usefulness, at least from guys in the Congress and maybe the present administra-
tion, of good permanent foreign service officers being impaired by their tussels with
Congress as sort of what you might call temporary Presidential appointees.
DA
What do you say to that?
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