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One or two other matters. here is an exchange between Sen. Hickenlooper and myself
which arose later in the course of the gruet debate that caused trouble. Sen Hicken-
looper talks for quite a long time. Then there was a heading in the printed text which
is of course not part of the transcript, but the editor puts in, which says "Ilo Plms
to Send American Troops to Europe". That is the editor's interpretation of the following
exchange:
Sen. Hickenlooper goes on at the end of a long speech here 17 I believe you said
earlier in your testimony today that it was contenplated that a great portion of the
armament, or the developed armament, of Western Europe in the nations of this Pact would
that
be carried und r their oun weight. I presume/that refers also to the manpower in their
an interested
armies. da I in getting the answers as to whether or not we are expected to
supply substantial numbers, by that I do not mean a thousand or two, or Live hundred
or anything of that kind, but a very substantial number of troops and troop
man?
organizations-mericar troops-- to imploment the land power of Western Europe pior
to aggression. Is that contemplated under Article 3 where we agree to maintain and
develop the collective capacity to resist? In other words, are we going to be expected
to
send
substantial
numbers
of
troops
over
there
as
a
more
or
less
permanent
contribution
to the development of these countries' capacity to resist?"
Sec. Acheson: The answer to that question, Senator, is a clear and absolute "No."
Sen. Hickenlooper: That is sufficient. That is all, Mr. Chairman.
Now later on under the great debate where Gen. Marshall announced that the plan
was to have six divisions in Europe, that we then had four and were going to send two
more, Hickenlooper called me up-wor I was up testifying or something or other,--and we
had quite an exchange which was very sharp, tempers were somewhat frayed about its
I said what was the fact that my thought when I was saying these things, that what I was
concentrating on was Art. 3 of the Treaty and the obligations under Art. 3, and the
Senator's
question
was
"Are
we
going
to
be
expected
to
send
these
large
numbers
of
troops?"
which I said I thought he meant, and I think I was justified in thinking it, are we
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