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10/10/53 - Reel 3. track 1 - Page 13 MR. ACHESON: lot of papers come to me that seem to me unrealistic, and, you know, you say, *Well, there will be a meeting on this, and somebody will...* but you don't pay any particular attention to it, and time goes on, and suddenly the thing builds up and up and up, and finally - the time when this thing absolutely overwhelmed me was in the late summer of '51, when I saw that what we were doing was absolutely destroying ourselves and all our allies, and the whole business was going to hell in a hack. And I remember you came over, and you and I sat on the corner of 18th Street and Pennsylvania Avenue, and I was having a meeting with the British and the French, and you came up and you said, #This whole business is just absolutely catastrophic. At that point the raw material prices were going up, everybody was bankrupt. (indistinct) We were all in terrible shape. and Averell said, "This whole military business has gotten utterly out of hand.* (Mr. Harriman) CRUMANY VOICE: Excuse me, was this the late summer of 50, wasn't it? ARCHIVES & "NATIONAL RECORDS ADMIN FORM MR. ACHESON: '51 the MR. HARRIMAN: Well. there were sone intermediate steps - this is Harriman - there were sone intermediate horrors in between the final horror. MR. ACHESON: Well. I am skipping - I have got a lot of notes here to gò back over, but I wanted - just wanted to say when the thing overpovered me. I remember it so well, because I remember the exact moment of Averell and Chip sitting with me before a meeting with Herbert Morrison and Schuman. We were up in that building on the corner of 18th Street and Pennsylvania Avenue, and you said, "This thing is really going down the drain. We are ruining our allies, we are ruining. (indistinct). And all the things that hadn't

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