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12/13/53 - Reel 5, Track 2, Page 1 which MR. PERKSTS: I think one of the details of the thing at the beginning of Ottawa/milles it difficult. The Americans and the Prench and the British got got together and I think it was about the second day came up with an agreement on the desirability of a TCC commttee and agreed amongst thenselves that at breakfast any R they would canvass or inform the rest of the delegations the following that morning, which was done, except, the French forgot to tell the Pelgians US. and Zan Veeland being chairman of the meetings, he was pretty annoyed when this thing was sprung at the meeting and he had never heard of it. lly recollection isthnt that was the basic difficulty that caused the appointment of the Committee of Twelve, rather than the Com ittee of Three. MR. HARRIMAN: One difficulty that we had was that it was agreed that each country would be TX presented by a minister and Gaitskell was the British minister and was to have functioned as I did as a member of the executive committee. Fortunately's he was not availab le during the took his place canpaign'and therefore his deputy Plouden, who wats in a position of a senior civil servant. Then the French, we agreed that it should le Monnet, rather than a minister, and Mounet was sort of half way between a inister and a civil servant. I was very glad to have Nonnet because he did have a positi n in the Trench government and he was quite forceful then soal you could get hin to agree on subjects. ut Blouden did really a tack very very fine job and through his capabilities and through his atteel ho was able to toke the place of Gaitskoll in dealing with the ministers without resentment. We had sone difficulty with Monnet because be has ideas that are not always feasible. MR. ACHESON: I thinic this whole operation of the TCC is worth a great deal of thought and study by those who are interested in the problems arising out of the operation of coalition. It shous what can be done and it also shousthe

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