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3/14/54 Reel 5, Track 1, Page 3 problem with control of the Suez base, where if necessary you wanted to protect that control by force, or whether a precondition to using the bases in Jap an was the consent of the Japanese. Did you really have to rely on the growth and continuance of a relationship with the Japanese, so that they would be willing to have you use the bases in the event of trouble; or was this a thing where our security interests in the Far East were such that, whether they consented or not, we would use force the way the British had used force in maintaining their control of the Suez base? Do you remember this, Dean? shuffled MR. RUSK: Yes, that was a very important point. And I, who back and forth across the Potomac from the Pentagon to the State Department, felt that it was short-sighted from the military point of view to think that 5 * with (B) you could maintain effective bases in the middle of 90 million people who us. were resistant to the idea. And from a solely military point of view, it was important for you to move toward obtaining the consent and support of Japan for the maintenance of your bases rather than pretend that you could maintain them there if the Japanese objected to them. But that was a very important problem that we had to work at very hard. If the railway workers simply quit, or if the Boy Scouts got up and blew up a few bridges, your bases in Japan were of no particular effect. We were deployed in Japan, and we wanted to be deployed in Japan in a way that made us com- pletely at the mercy of the wishes of the Japanese people themselves. And we had our little financial assistance somewhere way down in MR. NITZE: I think this was a little, more dificult than that, because as to Okinawa, this we were determined on; this we were going to keep as ours, whether they liked it or not MR. ACHESON: You could do that, because the situation of power was such that MR. NITZE: And with respect to the Kiska naval base, you could ppobably damn well do it with respect to Yatruska (sp?)

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