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3/14/54: Reel 7, .rack 2, -ge 4 that if the EDC had been adopted, and the French were in it, and it was interests, operating, you immediately begin to get a whole different series of/atti- political attitudes, tudes, thoughts,/hhich would be quite unexpected; and therefore it seems TRUMANY to me a very sad thing. Now we can start here-we 've got 20 minutes or ARCHIVES & -NATIONAL RECORDS ADMIN AR so, and maybe it won't take any longer than that to raise this question << COVERANCE about France which I find very interesting indeed. It hasn it anything to speculation. do with history, but it has to do with (indistinct) (?) leaves MR. FEIS: I think your last comment still/needs Auriol is statement that while-- which I suppose was a passionate declaration in substance--that while it may be true of most people that the trend of their thought for all pur- the Germans poses adjusts as it is affected by new knowledge, in the case of/it doesn't. MR. ACHESON: I'm not at all sure. MR. FEIS: I'm not saying that is my view, but I suppose that would be, in bringing together his statement and your comment, that would be the bearing of his position; that's the essence of his position. MR. ACHESON: Well, my comment was particularly directed toward the suggestion that, if France had ratified EDC in 152, it wouldn't have meant anything. I was arguing that it would. But I think it does figure-- think it's fair for you to say, "well, does this also bear on Germany? And I think it does. If Germany were in this common operation, a lot of things would begin to in ? happen. I think the present difficulties/with the Social Democrats would be changed. I think if they could-if this thing could have been worked so that the British would have become closer to EDC, so that we, as a with practical matter, were operating closer/im it, the Social Democrats wouldn 't have the feeling that they were isolated and the Catholic is community wouldn't have. I think everybody in Germany who/yas so timid when any to talitarian indication appears would not be so timid because they would have the support of other people who like themselves would be against this. They wouldn't be confined in their own little bailiwick. I think all these things would have had an effect. Well, the thing that

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