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5/16/54 - Reel 7 - Track 2 - Page 7 MR. ACHESON: I would bet a great deal that it would not. Well, I think you might do something through the UN after you have worleed out the troubles that you have now between the principal allies. But A think if you throw that into the UN with the Asian block tending to shy off from any U.S. attitude, with the Latinos very doubtful, with the Dritish, Fronch, and others think you would have an auful mess. I would straighten out, first of all, that you can do with the Asian Commonwealth people, and the British and the Fronch. And once you get that worked out then I think you might do sonething with the UN. MR. HATRIMAN: Yes, I agree with Dean on thnt. May I say this also that I have utterly no military intelligence as to vhat the strenghb is there but cer- tainly Navarre underestimited it, and does anybody have any military knowledge as to what the potential streingth there is? VOICE: I think the military situation MR. NITZE: I think 30, yos, they know pretty woll what the potentiol strength is, and I think they Inou what the political troubles are with the Vietnan forces. MR. HARRIMAN: Do you know? MR. NITZE: Yes, I think they have got six organized divisions, plus X number of in army Italiansgri the Vietminh, I think they'v got something like 200,000 mon altogether. TRUMAN (confused) ARCHIVEN & NATIONAL REAY/RUS ADMINT forces of MR. HARRIMAN: ......the French and Vietnamese? MR. NITZE: I think they aggregate something in the order of 270,000. In other vords something in excess of what the Vietminh have. But the Vietnam (?) section of that is low in morale, and the battalions defect on you from time to time.

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