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5/15/54 - Reel 5, track 1, Page 3 Africa is just as close as Indo China, but we don't say anything about French North Africa today. VOICE: Yes, but I can remember - VOICE: Before the Korean War you are saying that we darn well ought not to rock the North African boat. (confused) MR. NITZE: ? I'm not criticising anybody, I'm just saying -- I'm just characterizing Mc glace the policy we've gotten into-wwether it's right or wrong. STRUINING stating (confused) But it's not a normal attitude E ADMIN VATIONAL VOICE: The question is whether it is right or wrong. (confused) MR. NITZE: Mc ghee I think when you decide or wrong, you whether it's right have to address yourself, as you say, to individual situations. Now in the Middle East I've explained why we don't take any of the moves that might result in some real solution to the problem there. For example, any moves that are going to result in any solution has got to be something drab. We can get together and pass little programs for the refugees and urge the people to make peace and all that sort of thing from now to kingdom come, but it made no demonstrable progress over the seven years that I have been associated with the problem; so you have to do something more drastic. One drastic thing you might do, for example, is to encourage air immunit because then you get rid of all these little countries which have no significance. That we would not dare to do because it would make so many people mad; and then we recztate would create momentary (?) instability Another thing you might do is, for example, to get the British to relieve themselves of their treaty position which creates a great deal of trouble, but that we don't dare do because they are, we think, and probably correctly so, stabilizing factors at the present time and anyway we don't want to affront the British, so we don't do that. so, of all the other things you can think of which we might do if we were really concerned with the 0001888

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