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-2-#1511, September 11, Noon from London.
Hong Kong, we cannot say. Our source informed us that
this did not figure in the Cabinet discussions.
6. Ministers who opposed foregoing line of reasoning did
so not becuase they were in disagreement with the reasoning,
but because they approached problem from a different vantage.
They argued that US would not agree to seating Communist
China at this time, and it was imperative that there be no
open split between US and UK. They urged Cabinet majority
to defer China matter at least until after November for if
China were seated in UN over US objections it would embarrass
administration, might seriously affect outcome of November
elections, and might produce serious division in US over
foreign policy.
To Germany The Cabinet is prepared to go very far and
move rapidly with respect to arming German police and raising
German military formations within framework of an allied
army. Only two Ministers held out on this, one of whom was
Dalton, who is emotionally anti-Germany. In our opinion,
Bevin can be pressed very hard on this point
8. Bevin's frame-of-mind Bevin is convinced that US and
UN resistance in Korea has left a deep impression on the
Kremlin, and that Stalin knows now that the period of
expansion without risk of a general war is over. Some others
share this view. Bevin therefore thinks that the moment is
ripe or soon will be for a detente. He sees himself as
almost at the end of his career and life, and he is dramatizing
the possibility that he, as his final act, can engineer a
settlement with Russia, that will bring peace.
9. We do not think Bevin will make any dramatic public move
that could be interpreted as appeasement. Bevin is too
shrewd for that. But we suspect that Bevin's judgment may
be colored by his dream as peace maker. It may, for example,
explain why Bevin will press hard for UN recognition of
Communist China.
HOLMES
MRM:CM
SECRET
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