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SECRET -9- MR. MORGENSTIERNE: No, I mean--I understand that under the proposed pact the countries getting supplies-- it would be on a mutual basis, and those countries who receive supplies from you would also contribute them- selves to whatever degree is possible for them, and that it would not be so much a question of payment. I wonder if I have understood. Heretofore, countries who did not associate with you, they might come to the open market here and buy and they would get export licenses, but I mean it would probably be much more expensive for them to get those supplies. MR. ACHESON: I don't know whether I can answer your question categorically, but I think I can throw some light on it. Certainly anybody who is cooperating in a general defense area would not be denied export licenses. The problem is this: The United States Govern- ment has certain military items of equipment which are now regarded as surplus. That is, surplus to certain levels of mobilization. Those are in existence in certain places. Now those would not be sufficient for any program. Therefore, others would have to be manu- factured. So you have two types of things: things which are in existence and things which have to be made. Now in any military assistance program, I think, they would approach the question of payment or non-payment in the same way that they do this recovery business. Payment might be a burden which was going to defeat recovery and defeat our purposes. You said is it a question of time or conditions. It might be both. I don't mean conditions of agreement. Here are some weapons which already exist. Now if you have a situation where you immediately want to strengthen a particular country or group of countries with whom you have a commit- ment, those would be immediately available and something which came up later would be available for others. In the question of types, I don't know enough about the whole business, but I suppose that where you have a highly integrated system it is important to have types which are the same. Those questions would all arise. So it rapidly gets into a field which is quite technical and is quite linked up with whatever strategic plans are being laid down. Now that is what I meant and not that this government would say this country is cooperating, there- fore we feel warmly toward it and a different one is not and we won't. DECLASSIFIED E. O. 11652, Sec. 3(E) and 5(D) or (E) Dept. of State letter, Aug. 9, 1973 By NLT- HU NARS Date 8.3.76

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