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MR. MORGENSTIERNE: No, I mean--I understand that
under the proposed pact the countries getting supplies--
it would be on a mutual basis, and those countries who
receive supplies from you would also contribute them-
selves to whatever degree is possible for them, and that
it would not be so much a question of payment. I wonder
if I have understood. Heretofore, countries who did not
associate with you, they might come to the open market
here and buy and they would get export licenses, but I
mean it would probably be much more expensive for them
to get those supplies.
MR. ACHESON: I don't know whether I can answer
your question categorically, but I think I can throw
some light on it. Certainly anybody who is cooperating
in a general defense area would not be denied export
licenses. The problem is this: The United States Govern-
ment has certain military items of equipment which are
now regarded as surplus. That is, surplus to certain
levels of mobilization. Those are in existence in
certain places. Now those would not be sufficient for
any program. Therefore, others would have to be manu-
factured. So you have two types of things: things
which are in existence and things which have to be made.
Now in any military assistance program, I think, they
would approach the question of payment or non-payment
in the same way that they do this recovery business.
Payment might be a burden which was going to defeat
recovery and defeat our purposes. You said is it a
question of time or conditions. It might be both. I
don't mean conditions of agreement. Here are some
weapons which already exist. Now if you have a situation
where you immediately want to strengthen a particular
country or group of countries with whom you have a commit-
ment, those would be immediately available and something
which came up later would be available for others. In
the question of types, I don't know enough about the
whole business, but I suppose that where you have a highly
integrated system it is important to have types which
are the same. Those questions would all arise. So
it rapidly gets into a field which is quite technical and
is quite linked up with whatever strategic plans are
being laid down. Now that is what I meant and not that
this government would say this country is cooperating, there-
fore we feel warmly toward it and a different one is not and
we won't.
DECLASSIFIED
E. O. 11652, Sec. 3(E) and 5(D) or (E)
Dept. of State letter, Aug. 9, 1973
By
NLT- HU NARS Date 8.3.76
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