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Senator GUFFEY to TOM CORCORAN (continued)
JG - And I don't want anything - -
TC - And there have been two Pennsylvanians taken out of that Department.
JG - I'm not going to ask for it. If the President puts this one up,
I'm not going to be a candidate this time.
TC - Well, I mean, listen, I have no communication with the President,
JOE. I ain't -
JG - I'm merely telling you this.
TC - I ain't in the situation I used to be (facetiously). I can't act
as a conduit. It was only that I got an idea and I passed it on
to BILL this morning.
JG - I'd like to have the job, but I don't want the job under the cir-
cumstances, because I've got to approve of this damned crooked
McGRANERY--he is a--he's not honest, he's not straight. He
deceived the Cardinal. Do you get me? I get that from MIKE
CLOSKEY (phonetic) (or MacCLOSKEY).
TC - Mmmm.
JG - Now, I'm going to make a speech on the floor, if it comes up here
that will burn him, and he will never have standing again.
TC - Well, that's your judgment.
JG - I know that's my judgment too, I don't give a damn whether I quit
tomorrow or not.
TC - All I was thinking about--I mean, JOE--in the event that something
was to be traded for it, I didn't know whether anybody had thought
of the possibility of trading out what he had for it, which, I know
from long experience, is the best job in town.
JG - TOM, on the sixth of November I will have finished my 50 years in
politics. I started in 19--
TC - Damn few ever survived. JOE, damn few ever survived that many.
JG - Well, I've done that. And I've kept-I've succeeded for two
reasons. I've never made a promise that I didn't honestly try to
keep, and I've never sold anybody down the river on the trade of
a loss. I couldn't do it - -
TC - Well, JOE, listen - -
JG - That's what that would mean here.
TC - JOE, I don't know what this is all about, and I'm not in a position
to be able to help.
JG - I know, but I'll tell you one of these days.
TC - But all I'm saying to you is please keep my confidence as to where - -
JG - Oh, I'll do - -
TC - I learned about this Cardinal thing. Keep my confidence - -
JG - I'll do that certainly. I'll do that -
TC - About that, and I was simply--just simply trying this morning - -
JG - I appreciate it very much.
TC - I got an idea and I threw it out to BILL. That's all.
JG - Thank you very much indeed.
TC - O.K., JOE.
JG - Thank you, TOM. Hello?
TC - Yeah.
JG - We got the double cross over there, didn't we? (This probably refers
to WELCH POGUE getting JOSH LEE to change his vote on a rehearing be-
fore the C.A.B. in which CORCORAN was interested in P.C.A., as well as
GUFFEY.)
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