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Sifec 134 - libraries but would sit there waiting for people to come and inform them<elves as to the United States. That sort of thing is what I would describe as passive information program. The active program is apt to get you into contact with a good many more groups in the country, it is apt to be a grod deal more difficult to operate, and it is apt to be, if success fully operated, a good deal more effective in getting a point of view from the U.S. into the community, but 1t demands a different type of set-up, a different type of skill, but neither the pessive nor active program, it seems to me, is designed to serve the purnose in China at the present time or in many of the oriental countries. That is required there, it seems to me, is not information in the sense of giving to them an understanding or maling available to the peoples an understanding of what is in American libraries or what we are viewing in the movies, and so on, but something that is pointed up and sharpened in relation to American political purposes in that area. If that type of program is going to operate successfully, it has to be opereted in very close coordination with the political agencies of the American Government. For example, without wanting to speak too sharply from the standpoint of propaganda in China, the White Paper was one of the most unfor- tunate documents, in my opinion, that could have been issued at this particular time breause of the materials that it gives to the foreign propagendists and berause there is no material in it that I can see that would be useful to, the American pro- *NATIONAL ABCHIVES AND pagandists trying to get support for American policy in China. RECORDS SERVICE*D I am not suggesting that the White Paper should not have been issued, but I am raising a question as to whether there is a degree of coordination with respect to publications of that sort between the information agencies of the Department and the political agencies of the Department, so that the question is raiged with respect to every move me make in advance of taking the move, "Is this move viewable in terms of propaganda value or propaganda advantage? The answer may be that it is not but it has to be made anyway. Then your propagandist has to make the best of it, but at least he hasn°t been caught off base he knows what he has got to deal with in terms of preparing the grounds of accepting policy and that is the basis of psychologi- cal warfare. MR. SARGHANT: Actually there is a tremendous problem of coordinating information policies and programs with what is generally described as political decisions. I think, frankly, over the last tivo years we have made more progress in this field than I thought we would. It is something our Advisory Commission on Information including Mark Etheridge, Canham, Justin Miller

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