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CONF -18- ARCHIVES "HATIONAL REDORDS AND B SERVICE of China, granted there is a great shortage in Russia a against a surplus of these facilities and techniques and technology in Japan. But Japan hasn't a free choice and Russia has, and Russia has been known to divert her attention at the expense of her domestic market and at the expense of her own people into foreign channels when she had an objective that looked as if it vere worthwhile to do it. I don't believe we can count upon its being a more dangerous or a more critical proposition for us to give consideration to the Japanese relationshins with China. I think we can- count upon it for the short term because I think it's expedient in Russia. I think Russia's idea is, just leave it and let it stew in its own juice, with- out a strain on Russia's resources. If she felt she could use it as a jumping off point, I think Russia, having these resources, could divert them to China as well as Japan could divert them at the expense of her oun people, which I believe the Kremlin would do if she felt the price were worth it. MR. KENNAN: The whole trend of Russian economy in the past 40 years has been away from that of a trading nation which had surpluses to give to the rest of the world and rather toward one which had a hard enough time supplying her own needs. While the Russian Government is canable of allotting priorities of very formidable in- tensity and therefore achieving given objectives in fields which it marks out for itself as of great importance, it does that at the cost of huge sacrifice. Its economy is conducted the hard way and the wasteful way and I don't think there is a great margin with which to play except in cases of tremendous national emergency. Now, you may say that Asia might become of such importance to Russia that it would be equivalent to one of those periods of great national emergency and that they would say this is the time to do what we did during the world war, to push living standards ruthlessly doun and free a surplus of the labor of the people to use for national purposes of this sort. That is possible at a later date. Right now I thin': most of us tend to forget how deep and how raw are still the scars of the last war in Russia, how little of the damage done really has been repaired, despite the fact that production has been brought up. The

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