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OUNT IDENT TAL a ARCHIVES "NATIONAL SERVICE" RECORDS AND -63- something agencies such as the Food and Apricultural Organization, the orld Health Organization or the Economic Commission for Aid in the Far East, which I believe is now located in Banglook. I am wondering if you located an American headquarters in Bangkok, the psychological effect would not be, here the Americans are, moving in. It is the Americans in place of the United Nations, and so I raise the question that maybe we haven't more to gain from the standpoint of American interests in setting up as against a Marxist internationalism the United Nations type of more voluntary internationalisn and doing everything we can to boost that. MR. STASSEN: I would say that clearly there should be consultation with the United Nations agencies and the utilization of them at every possible turn but I can not conceive that you could turn over the substance of American aid to be docided by United Nations agencies in Asia for a number of reasons. One is the aspect of the colonial powers being in there. The other is the amount of aid we give would foll so far short of what could well be used that I do not feel you could have the division of alloca- tion that would parallel the European the OEEC in Europe. So that I think we would need to keep a greater area of detailed control of the funds and of the goods in Asia than we do in Europe. I do grant and would urge that the United Nations agencies should be used to every degree possible. MR . LURPHY: I would like to support the last remarks of Mr. Kizer with respect to the hysteria or hystericel tendency of fear of Russia and the effect it has on our policy. Governor Stassen referred in his original remarks to the Soviet under-belly of Russia. There is no doubt about it, Russia is unorotected for a great many thousands of miles in the Asiatic mainland but the theory that be- cause she is unprotected she has unlimited or strong cababilities there is somewhat hypothetical, I think. After the war that Russia went through and after the devastation the country Was subjected to, I doubt that she has quite the capabilities, aside from the atom bomb, that are attributed to her. I would like to make the point that possibly sometimes we rather hysterically exaggerate her capabilities and in our reactions to them distort our own true policies. I would like to make one further remark. It is my understanding that the expression "Titoism" refers not to aid

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