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- 82 MR. HEROD: Also China? MISS DuBOIS: I have no judgment on that, I am sorry. But even with no very elaborate large-scale rice culture, even using the old techniques with slight improvements in strains and fertilizers, rice production in Southeast Asia could be practically doubled. You see, all the surpluses of Indochina, for instance, aren't available now. That 18 almost a million tons prewar that was exported That is not on the market now- It would save India a great deal if they could buy that Chinese rice. MR. FAIRBANK: In connection with the lack of leaders in Southeast Asia, don't we have a great danger from the corresconding lack of American personnel who are able to maintain real contact with those few leaders that are ARCHIVES RECORDS SERVICE** AND there? It seems to me in all of Asia we suffer if we rely only on our embassies and consulates to maintain contact to COVERAGE with the native leadership because if you want contact with the revolutionists and you are in diplomatic channels accredited to the local regime it is difficult. We need certainly a great many more Americans like Mr. Talbot, if I may take an example, who has had personal experience in the field. He is an unusual and almost unique individual because a particular foundation saw to it that he spent some time seeing people as a private citizen in those coun- tries. One thing this conference might consider is the need of getting more Americans into the Far Eastern scene outside of diplomatio channels which handicap their contacts, with more freedom to develop an association or understanding of the native leadership. MR. COLEGROVE: May I ask Dr. DuBois one question re- garding trade between Japan and Southeast Asia? If Japan revives economically and lessens the burden on the American taxpayer, Japan must have markets. One market, of course, would have to be Manchuria and North China, and we hope Indonesia and possibly a revival of the old trade with Burma, Siam and other Southeast Asian countries. I belleve the figures before the war were about 15 percent of Japanese imports came from Southeast Asia. Does Dr. DuBois think that trade could be revived and expanded? MISS DuBOIS: I think that the Department will bend every effort to encourage the development of Japanese- Southeast Asian trade Japanese consumer goods and things of° that sort in return for Southeast Asian rice. MR. COLEGROVE:

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