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J. 333305MONO-State
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UNCORRECTED GALLEY PROOF
The first was a request that the United States Air Force be
allowed to use certain airfields in the vicinity of Budapest in order
to carry out bombing operations against the Germans. The President
said that at the present time the American bombers based in Italy
had to make a long and hazardous flight over the Alps in order to
reach Germany.
The second paper contained a request that a group of United States
experts be permitted to make surveys of the effects of bombing in the
areas liberated or occupied by the Red Army in Eastern and South
Eastern Europe, similar to the surveys that had been made at Ploesti.
The paper asked that this group be permitted to proceed at once since
it was important to examine the damage while the evidence was still
fresh and the people who had been there during the bombing still
were on the spot.
MARSHAL STALIN said he could grant both these requests and would
immediately give the necessary orders.
III. Sale of Ships to the Soviet Union after the War 3
MARSHAL STALIN mentioned that Mr. Stettinius had told Mr.
Molotov there was a possibility that the United States would have
surplus shipping property after the war which might be sold to the
Soviet Union.
THE PRESIDENT said that this would require some changes in legis-
lation which he hoped to work out so that surplus shipping after the
war not needed by the United States and Great Britain could be
transferred on credit without any interest. He said after the last
war the mistake had been made of attempting to charge interest for
the disposal of surplus property but it had not worked. His idea was
to transfer the ships for a fixed sum on credit which would include the
cost of the ship less the cost of depreciation, so that in twenty years
the entire credit would be extinguished. He said that the British
had never sold anything without commercial interest but that he
had different ideas.
MARSHAL STALIN expressed gratification at the President's state-
ment and said this shipping would greatly ease the task of the Soviet
Union in the future.
THE PRESIDENT replied that he hoped the Soviet Union would
interest itself in a large way in the shipping game.
MARSHAL STALIN said that he thought the President's idea was a
very good one and also that Lend-Lease was a remarkable invention,
without which victory would have been delayed. He said that in
former wars some allies had subsidized others but this had offended
the allies receiving the subsidies and had led to difficulties. Lend-
Lease, however, produced no such resentment, and he repeated his
opinion of the extraordinary contribution of Lend-Lease to the
winning of the war.
THE PRESIDENT replied that four years ago, when having a rest on
his small yacht, he had thought and thought of a way to help the
Allies and at the same time avoid the difficulties inherent in loans,
and had finally hit upon the scheme of Lend-Lease.
3 This subject and the three succeeding subjects were grouped together in one
memorandum by Bohlen, whereas the minutes on each of the preceding subjects
were presented as separate memoranda of conversation. The numbering of the
subject headings has been altered to run in sequence. The time indicated for
the beginning of the discussion of topic III was 3:45 p. m.
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