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SITUATION(S) MESSAGE(S) LISTING
DATE 01/03/80//003
SITUATIONI
AFGHAN
SUBJECT CATAGORY SIT
MESSAGE / ANNOTATION:
TO A ROOM. THEY WERE UNCERTAIN WHETHER THEY ARE ALLOWED TO
TALK TO EACH OTHER, BUT SEVERAL CASUAL REMARKS SUGGESTED THAT
STRINGENT RULES AGAINST CONVERSATION WERE BEING RELAXED, AT LEAST
IN SELECTIVE CASES, TWO WOMEN ARE APPARENTLY BEING HECO APART
FROM EACH OTHER. BOTH IN GOOD SPIRITS.
(H) GUMBLETON MET, AMONG OTHERS, WITH SUBIC, HERMINING, AND
LAUDERBACH WHO TOGETHER APPEARED TO HAVE COMPOSED STATEMENT
EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR SHAH S RETURN AND GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE
OF MILITANTS POSITION, LAUDERBACH HAD OPPORTUNITY QUIETLY TO
CONFIDE TO GUM3LETON THAT LATTER SURELY REALIZED THAT STATEMENT
WAS GUMBLETON SAID HE KNEW THAT AND ASKED CAUDER-
BACH WHAT HE SHOULD SAY PUBLICLY ON THIS POINT. LATTER RESPONDED
HE SHOULD IITELL THE TRUTHI! REGARDLESS OF CONSEQUENCES TO
HOSTAGES,
(I) CHRISTMAS CARDS WERE VISIBLE IN L'ARGE NUMBERS IN EACH DF
THREE ROOMS, BUT REACTION OF HOSTAGES MADE IT CLEAR NOT ACL
HAD BEEN GETTING THEM. REGULAR MAIL IVIA SWISS) APPEARS TO BE
SPASMODIC AT BEST (EG ODE CONFIRMED RECEIPT OF TWO L'ETTERS BUT
COMPLAINED ABOUT ONE HAVING BEEN TAKEN AWAY BY MILITANTS AND
NOT RETURNED) CLERICS REMINDED HOSTAGES OF ODE'S HEART CONDITION,
5. ON SUBSTANCE, CLERICS APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN SOMEWHAT TAKEN
ABACK BY RIGIDITY OF MILITANTS, BOTH ON ABOVE PROCEDURAL
ISSUES AND ON FUNDAMENTALS. ALTHOUGH THEY CLAIM TO HAVE ACREADY
SENSED A GOOD DEAL OF DISAPPROVAL OF MILITANTS ACTIONS ON
PART OF OTHER (UNSPECIFIED) IRANIANS, THEY WERE ALSO STRUCK BY
TOTALLY UNFETTERED AUTHORITY OF MILITANTS AS A GROUP. COMMAND
STRUCTURE SEEMED LOOSE TO THEM AND DIFFICULT TO JUDGE, THOUGH
SOME STOOD OUT, INCLUDING THE CELEBRATED MARY, AND INTENSE ZEAL
AND DEADLY SERIOUSNESS WAS APPARENT IN ALL OF THEM.
6. CLERICS HAVE NO DIFFICULTY IN CONCLUDING THAT ANY EFFECTIVE
AUTHORITY OVER MILITANTS COULD ONLY COME FROM QOM. THIS
REMINDS US OF INTERESTING OBSERVATION MADE TO US BY UK AMBASSADOR
ON MILITANTS RELATIONS WITH KHOMEINI AS HE PUT it, THE TWO
CAMPS HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING WITH EACH OTHER, I.E. THE MILITANTS
WILL RESPECT THE IMAM S ORDERS, BUT THE IMAM WILL NOT ORDER THEM
TO DO WHAT THEY ARE NOT PREPARED TO DO.)
7. WE HAD LENGTHY EXCHANGE ON SUBSTANCE WHICH WE WILL NDT
ATTEMPT TO RELATE HERE IN DETAIL BUT ON WHICH WE ASSUME
DEPARTMENT WILL FOLLOW UP ON THEIR RETURN. THEY PRESSED HARD
(ESPECIALLY COFFIN) FOR WAYS IN WHICH US COULD (AND SHOULD IN
THEIR OPINION) DEMONSTRATE TO IRANIANS THAT IT RECOGNIZED
GRIEVANCES REGARDING SHAH. THEY SEEM DUBIOUS THAT QOTBZADEH S
GRAND JURY CONCEPT WILL GET OFF THE GROUND, BECAUSE OF
DIFFICULTY IN GETTING ANY REPUTABLE (INCLUDING MCBRIDE S)
FOREIGN PARTICIPATION. NONETHELESS COFFIN WAS CLEARLY
GROPING FOR WAYS IN WHICH PROMINENT AMERICANS OUTSIDE GOVERNMENT
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