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Interview with Lt. Col. John H. Glenn, Jr.
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Colonel Glenn: Yes, we did. I don't recall any specific
things now. He was always very pleasant and there were
always a lot of jokes or little things. I think every time
I saw him after this recounting of the barbecue incident at
home, at some time while I was there, he would ask me if I
had had any barbecues recently.
When we went up to the Cape [Hyannis Port] for the weekend
we weren't aware that the President and Mrs. Kennedy were
going to be there. I remember the way we learned. Ethel
Kennedy suggested we go sailing. Well, I knew that they
had a fairly large sailboat, the Victura. I had never been
out in one like that. I had never sailed a boat of that
type, so I didn't feel qualified to take it out in the 25-
or 30-knot wind blowing this particular day. Ethel said,
"No, no, that's all right. We'll go sailing; we can take
care of it all right." So we changed clothes and went down.
It was a blustery, blowing day. Well, when my family walked
from the house down toward the dock with Ethel, we could see
someone working on the Victura. They were wearing leather
jackets and old clothes, and as we got out toward the end of
the dock it became a little more apparent who these people
were. It was the President and Mrs. Kennedy, rigging the
sails. Any doubts I had had about sailing in that weather
were somewhat alleviated. I felt that if he could go out
that day, it would probably be all right for us to venture
out. They brought the boat in from its mooring and we went
aboard. We had seven or eight people in the boat and had a
lot of fun cruising around the bay. It was quite a windy
day. There was enough force on the tiller that the President
didn't want to strain his back, so Dave, my son, who had
never sailed a boat like that before, became the helmsman
and the President gave him the word on what to do. So Dave
had some pretty expert instruction, back and forth across
the harbor at Hyannis Port. The President seemed to enjoy
it as much as we did, and that was considerable I assure
you.
Mr. Sohier: You mentioned the President's back, and one is
led to believe that he was in pain a great deal of the time
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Interview with Lt. Col. John H. Glenn, Jr. by Walter B. Sohier, General Counsel, National Aeronautics and Space Administration June 12, 1964 Seabrooke, TX
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