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Interview with Astronaut Alan B. Shepard, Jr.
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We had a chance to talk with him briefly the following
morning. The subjects that were discussed were primarily
our problems outside of the space program--the problems we
had had with appearances; the problems we had with the Life
contract; could we, or should we, in fact make special
compensation in pay for our astronaut group and future
astronaut groups. This sort of thing is what we discussed
primarily, rather than anything having to do specifically
with the hardware of the space program.
Mr. Sohier: How did this meeting come about? Did Vice
President Johnson suggest that maybe you all had problems
you wanted to talk out loud about, or was it just a social
visit in which you got talking after dinner?
Commander Shepard: As I recall, I was in Dallas at the
Chance Vought company running a launch simulation in con-
nection with the study of the Gemini program. John Glenn
called and said that about two months before President
Kennedy had suggested that Vice President Johnson get
together with us at the ranch and just sit down and infor-
mally discuss what our problems were. Glenn told me that
this in fact had transpired and we were to meet at Johnson's
ranch on this particular date. So it's my impression that
the meeting actually was at the request of President Kennedy,
and I don't really feel that too much transpired as a result
of that meeting. I think it was just a discussion. It gave
us an opportunity to air our points of view, was an educa-
tional process for the Vice President, and gave him a chance
to find out just what some of our problems were.
Mr. Sohier: There are a number of major elements in the
space program in which President Kennedy was interested.
One that threads all the way through his Administration
was the question of how we could cooperate with the
Russians in space. There's a hint of it in the Inaugural
Address, and, of course, in May of last year there was the
speech before the United Nations. Did you ever get into
discussions of this sort? Did he ever ask you what the
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