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Interview with Astronaut Alan B. Shepard, Jr. 16 We had a chance to talk with him briefly the following morning. The subjects that were discussed were primarily our problems outside of the space program--the problems we had had with appearances; the problems we had with the Life contract; could we, or should we, in fact make special compensation in pay for our astronaut group and future astronaut groups. This sort of thing is what we discussed primarily, rather than anything having to do specifically with the hardware of the space program. Mr. Sohier: How did this meeting come about? Did Vice President Johnson suggest that maybe you all had problems you wanted to talk out loud about, or was it just a social visit in which you got talking after dinner? Commander Shepard: As I recall, I was in Dallas at the Chance Vought company running a launch simulation in con- nection with the study of the Gemini program. John Glenn called and said that about two months before President Kennedy had suggested that Vice President Johnson get together with us at the ranch and just sit down and infor- mally discuss what our problems were. Glenn told me that this in fact had transpired and we were to meet at Johnson's ranch on this particular date. So it's my impression that the meeting actually was at the request of President Kennedy, and I don't really feel that too much transpired as a result of that meeting. I think it was just a discussion. It gave us an opportunity to air our points of view, was an educa- tional process for the Vice President, and gave him a chance to find out just what some of our problems were. Mr. Sohier: There are a number of major elements in the space program in which President Kennedy was interested. One that threads all the way through his Administration was the question of how we could cooperate with the Russians in space. There's a hint of it in the Inaugural Address, and, of course, in May of last year there was the speech before the United Nations. Did you ever get into discussions of this sort? Did he ever ask you what the

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