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he was with Al's
Mr. HUBERT I think the letter that you handed me was in an envelope, which
was plain, other than the fact that it had in the left-hand upper corner the words
"Office of District Attorney, Room 204, Courthouse, Sacramento 14, California"
1p and Jack Ruby
I am marking a Xerox copy of the original of that envelope, which has been
him. And I found
returned to you, for identification by writing on the Xerox copy the following, to
club. And then I
wit: "Washington, D.C., June 2, 1964, Exhibit 2, Deposition of Nancy Perrin
st let it drop."
Rich," under which I have signed my name, and I ask you to sign yours as you
is after this alter-
did with reference to Exhibit No. 1.
Mrs. RICH. Note for the record that I signed Nancy E. Perrin Rich under Mr.
è Chalet.
Hubert's signature.
(The documents referred to were marked Nancy E. Perrin Rich Exhibits 1 and
ther side of Dallas.
2 for identification.)
oper. It wasn't in
Mr. HUBERT. Thank you, ma'am.
Mrs. Rich. At this time I would also, pertaining to my statement concerning
working for various police organizations, introduce into this informal hearing,
And in the place
so to speak, another piece of material given to me by the Oakland Police Depart-
could throw darts
ment while working on a case for them, under the name of Julie Anne Cody.
Also under this name is a police record purposely devised by
Department for obvious purposes, to coincide with this card that I am about to
hand to Mr. Hubert-also how shall we say it-falsified, made up by the Oakland
Police Department. for obvious purposes. This was to get me into a particular
left to go back to
place-I had to have a police record-all done with the sanction of the Oakland
Police Department. May I also note that on that card the dates and the names
what period was
are fictitious, intentionally so. The card was Lreality printed in, I believe,
is employment at
November of 19
Mr. HUBERT. You say you want to introduce this card into this proceeding?
int to The Chalet,
Mrs. RICH. Yes. And I will tell you why. If you note the date on that, some
re we left. And,
of my statements-Let's say that this came into light, and I didn't give the ex-
here was a period
planation of why and what this meant- dates would conflict with some of
II of a sudden he
my testimony. And I want this understood that this was purely done to, shall
Dallas?
we say, consummate a case for the Oakland Police Department. I was not
actually in California the dates on that card.
leks.
Mr. HUBERT. When was this card issued to you?
for renovations.
Mrs. RICH. In reality, this card was issued in November of 1963. I was
.nd he decided to
working on a grand larceny case.
Mr. HUBERT. You want this card back, the original?
Mrs. RICH. Yes.
unge?
Mr. HUBERT. All right. Now. as soon as we have a Xerox copy made of the
card, we will identify it and sign the copies as we have done the other.
hen went back to
Meanwhile, let us pass on to another point, I think you have méntioned
that you saw Ruby at a certain meeting at which your husband was present
?
and there was a general discussion of guns or Cuban refugees.
out working for
MIS. RICH. Your statement is
ng place in town,
Mr. HUBERT. Will you tell us that is actually correct?
w, these amateur
Mrs. RICH. At the first meeting there were four people present. There was
thanks.
a _colonel, or a light colonel. I forgot which. I also forget whether he was
latter, I want to
Air Force or Army. It seems to me he was Army. And it seems to me he
ber 25, 1963. It
was regular Army. There was my husband, Mr. Perrin. mysolf and a fellow
named Dave, and I don't remember bis last name Dave C.-I think it was
E attorney. It is
Cole, hut I wouldn't be sure.
- County. I have
Dave came to my husband with a proposition
ou, is that right?
Mr. HUBERT. There were only four people present?
Mrs. RICH. Let me clarify the statement about Dave. He was a bartender
ent for identifica-
for the-University Club on Commerce Street in Dallas. I became associated
to wit: "Wash-
with him and subsequently husband, Well, at first it looked all
: Perrin Rich,"
right to me. They wanted someone to pilot a boat-someone that knew Cuba,
1 may show that
and my busband claimed he did. Whether he did, T don't know. I know
he
m your name as
did know boats. so-they-were.golng to bring Cuban refugees out into Miami.
All this was fine, because by that time everyone knew Castro for what he
't-hand margin I
appears to be, shall we say. So I said sure. why not-$10.000 _said that is
fine.
345
731-230 0-84-vol. XIV----33
Note:
meeting ne quno is
becoming This Ruban after Fuger JFK control
has tried this to get FEE and was
of CIA such cin addition.
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