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0 Check with Darrel farner Mrs. Rich. Yes; he glared at me and I glared back, de much as to say to each a sudd good : other what the heck are you doing here. Mr. HUBERT. Had you told the colonel and Dave what your name was prior Mr. you b: to that? RICH. At that time we-I think it will be obvious tolyou gentlemen the Mrs Mrs. Mr. reason-we were going under Jack Starr and Nancy Starr. Mr. HUBERT. DO you mean that is the name that Ruby knew you under? Mr. -had a Mrs. RICH. No. Jack Ruby knew me as Nancy Perrin. Mr. HUBERT. And he knew your husband was Robert Perrin? Mr. Mrs. RICH. Yes. But like I say for obvious reasons we used the name Jack Mr. door. and Nancy Starr. Mr. HUBERT. That is to say, you told the colonel and Dave that your there have Mrs. RICH. No; Dave knew our real name. ahead Mr. HUBERT. The colonel- Mrs. Rich. The colonel and everyone else involved, with the exception of Ruby would thing and Dave. time Mr. HUBERT. They knew you as Nancy Starr? Mrs. RICH. Yes. Also let me state that my husbands nom de plume as a writer Mr. Mr was Jack Starr, I have also published under Nancy Starr. 2¹/² h Mr. N° Mrs. Mr. HUBERT. RICH. Well, All right. they went What in and happened? came out and the bulge was gone, and every- Mr body was really happy, and all of a sudden they seemed to be happy. So it was Mr my impression Ruby brought money In. Mr Mr. HUBERT. They walked out of the apartment? it jus Mrs. RICH. Ruby left. He didn't stay. He wasn't there for more than 15 Mr minutes at the most. next Mr. HUBERT. You say all of a sudden the bulge was gone? Mr Mrs. RICH. The bulge was gone from Ruby when he left. and s Mr. HUBERT. Did he leave the room? Mr Mrs. RICH. He left the apartment. Mr Mr. HUBERT. I mean from the time he came in until he left. Mr Mrs. Rich. He came in. To everyone else except my husband and I he said, Mr "Hi." He and the colonel rushed into-I forget whether it was the kitchen or Mr the bedroom. They were in there about 10 minutes. I heard some rather loud Mr undistinguishable words. They closed the door. When they came out every- Mz body looked relieved. And Ruby just walked out. Mr Mr. HUBERT. And said nothing to you? Mr Mrs. Rich. No. Mr Mr. HUBERT. You say the money was forthcoming? the Mrs. RICH. Yes. Mi Mr. HUBERT. Did you get It? M1 feel fellow and one of the Latins who were_goldg down to Mexico to make arrange Mrs. Rich. First they had to pay for this pugnacions-looking my 1 M. ments and pay All of sudden just beo Nuby come in they M: couldn't go. and right after Ruby left then the plane the next morning, so to speak M Mr. HUBERT. You did not see Jack Ruby hand any money to anybody? How Mrs. RICH. No; I did not. M Mr. HUBERT. Nor did you see any money handed to anyone else M Mr. HUBERT. So the way it was left then, these people, the others, were going Mrs. RICH. No; I did not. M M M to go to Mrs. RICH. Actually they were going to leave not the day following, but the that day and 1 after that-2 days later they were going to leave for Mexico. I just assumed M that was money that Ruby brought in. Because before that they could not go, M they did not have the finances, and after he left they did. M Mr. HUBERT. Did they say they did not have the finances, or was it your as M M sumption that they did not? Mrs. RICH. When someone is stalling around, and not setting a concrete date ments like that that I hear in conversation, then all of a sudden in comes a man of and saying, "Well, tre have to wait" and that it will get here soon, and state- 3: with a bulge and hands it to the colonel in the back room, so to speak, and all 350

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