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    "ocrText": "OFFICE OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY PARISH OF ORLEANS\nRACKETS DIVISION\nDATE\nACTION TAKEN\nA.D.A.\nSENATOR, GEORGE\nKP 28372 A\nCHECK LIST FOR CLOSING FILES\nClosed by\n1. Closed to All Defendants.\n( )\n2. Closed in General Docket Book (Clerk's Office) . ( )\nDate\n3. Index Card Closed.\n( )\nWashington D.C.\napril\nGeorg Santer, Deposited\nin\n5400\n_11 of visa perfe.\nAFFIDAVIT IN ANY FACT\nBuil Thaffin\nis appreciation\nOF TEXAS\nHerry Secator\nOF DALLAS\nin protes\nWORE ME,\nWilliam\n.000 of time\nPublic in and for sold County, State of Texas, on this day personally oppoared\nwills producto,\ncorrectly;\nSemitor, 2/0/30, 223 So. Ewing, Apt. 207, to 2 5601, 3016 Code: Springs, no\nbusiness phone.\n:: the viole\nbymoday sworn. on each deposit and soys:\nDo\nwill\nIncm Junio Daty clost 0 years. I first lived with Jack in 2902 for 5 or 6\naloctic\nat the Narcalic FL. 02 And apartments, I have lived with Jack this tino since\nof 1963. Early last saturity norming about 3:00 AS Jack woke = up. ::0\nabout President Monnedy being billed. Jack told CO that to had born one\nCOOD to run = ad in the paper stating his club would to closed Friday,\nand Sunday in accepy of the Tresident. Jack paid 10 would hurs him money\nlocallo\non\nto just could the open up with the Procident cond, I could tall Juck was\n1000 hape given\nthe Prosident's donth hard and he kept reporting ha felt corry for the Proci-\n== happy to day\nfamily. Jack the too and to 89 to bod and he delt = to 80 cub and have caffee\nTo word to the Southland hotel for cofice and I had DODO coffee and Jack\nvico to Fy\ngrapafrait juich, No noted 11:0 no = started and shoolted and TO mont on\nChed who the first time I over saw tears in his eyes. I got cut of bod ===\ncreaing and wells Jack to about 10:00 02 10:30 M. to not had TV and had coffee,\nsill 1 and and very sorry for the Prodident's family. I had code things to do\nleft the house cround noon. I nont brois todo chout 7:00 7.1 and Jack was'nt\nI ate C Mit and word book out. : got back home about 30:30 saturday evening\ningoon\nthis home. Jack told = he had to 20 to the club and check up on consthing.\nC.: to Bod. hea I = =2 this norning d'out 9:00 AM Sholt ==0 cheoping. Juels\nmilling around and No not W. I could tell Jack tos brooding and ctill\n=>. to unterged a church serzon on T. V. and Jack kept repeating about the\nfamily and how costy to falt for = Fennady. Around 20:30 M to told\n= going to take Choba, his dog down to the club where the rest of his dogs\nJack the Inft ond I did'nt 0.0 him any 1070. I went down to the Estwall on\nstreet and had oddo coffou, Thile I was it the Entwall I heard Jack Ruby bad\nConald, I have ca = Jock's pistol and the list time I DAW it TWO Thursday night,\nX.:\nXXXXX\nGerry Senaton\nAND\nSWORN\nTO\nBEFORE\n2400 DAY\nOF\nNovember\nME\nTHIS\nA.D. 1983\nWilliam\nNatury Public Dates County. Twaca\nSemingsen\nEx.No.5400\nSINATOR,Coo.\nDeposition\n3001\nWashington, D.C. 4-22-64\nAttch. #7\n58\nnued\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5400\n427\n2\n3-2-593\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nDL 44-1639\nDate 21/24/63\nRUB\nof any type a:\nHe travelled\nhis time in Do\nGEORGE (NIN) SENATOR was interviewed at the Dallas\nsome 14 or 15\nPolice Department and Cave the following information:\nRUSI\nHo has known JACK LEON RUBY for approximately the\nand nover even\npast eight years, having nothim when he (SENATOR) started\nany indication\ngoing to the Vegas Club operated by RUBY on Onl: Lawn Avenue\nleft in his th\nin Dallas. He had only casual association with him, mostly\nis Jewish, fee\nonly as a patron to his club, from that time on up until\n(SENATOR) does\napproximately three years ago. Thoreafter, ho considered\nhinself to have been much closer to RUBY, but in this regard\nany sort, espe\ncould not explain why he considered hinsolf closer during the\ntstrikes?agains\npast three years than the time before that ho know RUBY. Eo\nSENATOR was un\nadded he occasionally, when low on funds, would be asked by\nas his persona\nRUBY to come and stay a day or two with him until do got back\nof a minority\non his feet, but be claims he never actually lived with him\nuntil about November 1, 1963, when he noved into the apartment\nWhen\n02 RUBY, Apartment 207, 223 South Ewing, Dallas, Texas.\nKENNEDY were G\ndation or exub\nRUBY has nover been married and has never shown any\nfino thing the\nspecial interest in girls. He has never had a steady girl\ncation of havi:\nfriend.\ntoward the KENN\nknowledge, or a\nHis employment throughout the time SENATOR has known\nhim has been as a tavern operator. Shortly after SENATOR\nRUBY\nfirst net him, RUBY opened the Sovereign Club on the second\nby saying it wa\nfloor of the building on the southeast corner of Field and\nalthough occasi\nCommerce in downtown Dollas. This venture was unsuccessful\nand about two or two and = half years ago the Sovereign Club\nthe club and hi\nwas discontinued and the Carousel Club started as a \"girlio\"\nsum of money on\nshow ostablishment. RUBY had a partner in the operation of\nconcerning this\nthe Sovereign Club, but SENATOR is unable to furnish this indi-\npracticed with\nvidual's name. SENATOR can state only that he believes RUBY\nfor self-protec\nto be the solo owner and operator of the present Carousel Club.\n:0 SENATOR.\nRUSY actively manages the Carousel Club, although\nSENAT\nhe still, so for as SENATOR knows, owns the Vegas Club. As to\nfriend\" and des\nthe latter, RUDY goes there only periodically to check on the\nrate of others\nmanagement of the place or to take over occasionally as master\nquently take SC\nof ceremonies.\nhim for a short\nEX.No.5401\nSENATOR,Geo.\nhard luck\". SE\nDeposition\nto be vicious C\nWashington, D.C. 4-22-64\n4\n11/24/63\non\nof\nDallas, Texas VIE\nFile $\nDL 44-1639\nby Special Agent\nKENNETH C. HOWE\n/\nmac\nDate\ndictated 11/24/63\n296\nThis document containe nother racommendations nor conclusions of the FDI. it Le the property of the FD: and is loaned to\nyour spency: It and Its content* not to be distributed culdide your agency.\nKERO!\nEXCRO\nCOPY\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5401\n428\n2\nDL 44-1639\nRUBY belongs to no clubs, societies, or organizations\nof any type and has no \"connections\" anywhere outside Dallas.\nHe travelled very, very infrequently and spent practically all\nhis time in Dallas, having been here as SENATOR understands,\nsome 14 or 15 years.\nRUSY never expressed any special political preferences\nthe\nand never even discussed political matters sufficienty to give\ncd\nany indication as to whether he might be to the right or to the\n10\nleft in his thinking. SENATOR was of the opinion RUBY, since he\ntly\nis Jewish, feels somewhat the same on things of this type as he\n(SENATOR) does; 1. e., a Jew has no right to express opinions of\nany sort, especially when he is in business, since he has enough\ngard\n(strikes\"against him just being a Jew. In pursuit of this idea,\nthe\nSENATOR was unable to state RUBY was materially affected so far\nEG\nas his personality was concerned, by his position as a member\nby\nof a minority race.\nback\nhis\nstment\nWhen it was definitely decided President and Mrs.\nKENNEDY were going to visit Dallas, RUBY showed no special\ndation or exuberance and although he evidently thought it W&S a\n= any\nfine thing the President was coming to Dallas, he gave no indi-\n:1\ncation of having any particularly strong feelings or attachments\ntoward the KENNEDYS, and certainly never had any personal contact,\nknowledge, or acquaintanceship with them.\nknown\n02\nRUBY owned a revolver which SENATOR could describe only\nand\nby saying it was black. This was kept at the Carousel Club,\n=d\nalthough occasionally RUBY would carry it back and forth between\nful\nClub\nthe club and his home because he usually carried a fairly large\nlic\"\nsum of money on him. SENATOR never had any special discussions\nof\nconcerning this weapon with RUBY, never heard him say he shot 1t,\nS indi-\npracticed with it, or had any special reason for having it, except\nRUBY\nfor self-protection. He had no other firearms of any type known\n: Club.\nto SENATOR.\nSENATOR on some occasions would refer to RUBY as a \"boy\nis to\nfriend\" and described him as extremely good-hearted and conside-\nthe\nrate of others and in this regard SENATOR said RUBY would fre-\nquently take some acquaintance or casual friend home to stay with\nhim for a short time because this individual was having a \"bit of\nhard luck\". SENATOR has no knowledge that RUBY would be inclined\nto be vicious or prone to cause physical harm to anyone.\n4-22-64\n1839\n24/63\n4\n297\nXERO\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5401-Continued\n429\n3\n4\nDL 44-1639\nDD 44-163\nOn the morning of November 22, 1963, RUBY was still at\napartment when SENATOR left to go to work. When SENATOR returned\nSENATOR I:\nthe apartment about 9 or 10o'clock that evening, RUBY was not there\nvas take\nSENATOR went to bed and was awakened at about 3 or 4 o'clock in\nmorning of November 23, 1963, byrusy, upon his (RUBY's) return to\napartment. SENATOR has no accurate idea as to where RUBY had book\n1963, SIN\nall day but does know that because of the shooting of the President\nZatwell R\nRUBY had, as had many businessmon in Dallas, closed his business.\narrived :\nSENATOR had some recollection RUBY said he had been at his sister's\ndoor be o\nhome for awhile.\nshot. He\nhaving th\nRUBY was patently upset and emotionally disturbed by the\nafter the\nshooting of the President, gave the appearance of having been weed:\n= local t.\nand as 2 matter of fact, did cry occasionally while ho sat and to\nthe name C\nwith SENATOR about the shooting. SENATOR has no recollection 02\ndumbfounds\nspecial comments made by RUBY other than the shooting was a terrill,\nwhile he\nthing\".\nStreet, D:\nwas not a:\nAfter SENATOR and RUBY talked for awhile in the apartment\nattorney :\nthey got into a car and came downtown to a coffee shop of the Souts.\nthere the\nland Hotel for a cup of coffee, this being about 4:30 or 5 o'clost\nhad been :\non the morning of November 23, 1963. They talked considerably\nSUNATOR th\nthis time of the shooting and after spending 10 or 15 minutes as\nthey could\ncoffee shop, they returned to the apartment on South Ewing and\nto bed. SENATOR arose later on the morning of November 23, 1963\nleft the apartment between 11 and 1 o'clock, to the best of his\nupset by a\nlection, and at this time RUBY was still there. He does not recall\nthe killin\nany special conversation they had prior to his leaving, although\nhad such a\nwas still apparently feeling very badly about the killing of the\nmake any r\nident.\nfeeling fo:\nhave been :\nWhen SENATOR returned to the apartment on the evening of\nto give an:\nNovember 23, 1963, RUBY was there. SENATOR describes his condition\nsay \"Ho Bus\nat that time as \"brooding\". They talked briefly; but SENATOR has\n:\nrecollection of what they talked about. Shortly thereafter, RUDY\nClub and 0:\nleft to \"go down and see how things are at the club\", although\nCOWALD and\nthe club was closed. SENATOR went to bed and does not know when\nthese place\nRUBY came in.\nshooting o:\nRUBY and SENATOR arose on November 24 and SENATOR noticed\nDADO at no:\nRUBY had brought one of four dogs which he ordinarily keeps at :::0\nledge of oz\nCarousel Club home with him. At about 10:30 a.m., RUBY left the\npay OSWALD\napartment with the statement he was going to \"take the dog to the\nclub\". SENATOR denies any knowledge of subsequent\nactivities of RUBY until he heard of his having shot OSWALD.\n4\n298\n****\n*ENO\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5401-Continued\n430\n4\nDL 44-1639\nstill at\nThe only thing, therefore,\nSENATOR knew RUBY was going to do when he left the apartment\nR returned\nwas take the dog back down to the club.\n25 not there\n'clock in\nAt around 11 'clock on the morning of November 24,\nreturn to\n1963, SENATOR left the apartment and went downtown to the\n:BY had beez\nEntwell Restaurant on Main Street to eat. He estimates he\nhe Presider:\nbusiness.\narrived there at approximately 11:30 and as he walked in the\nhis sister's\ndoor he overheard one of the waitresses say OSWALD had been\nshot. He remembers asking the waitress \"Who shot him?\" and\nhaving the waitress answer she did not know. Shortly there-\nrbed by the\nafter the waitress told SENATOR that OSWALD had been shot by\ng been weepi:\na local tavern operator and a short while after that he learned\nsat and tall\nthe name of this individual to be JACK RUBY. He said he was\nection of any\ndumbfounded and did not know what to do, but after a short\nAS a terrible\nwhile he went to the telephone and called JIM MARTIN, Gladiolus\nStreet, Dallas, an attorney whom ho knew. He said this attorney\nwas not at home, so he got into his car and drove to the\nattorney's house to wait for his return. When he arrived\nhe apartment\nof the South-\nthere the attorney was present and had also learned JACK RUBY\n= 5 o'clock\nbad been involved in the shooting of OSWALD. The attorney and\nderably\nSENATOR then proceeded to the City Jail to see what, if anything,\nthey could do in connection with the situation.\ninutes at the\ning and weat\nSENATOR never saw RUBY so emotionally disturbed and\n23, 1963,\nupset by anything during the time he knew him as RUBY was by\nt of his recc:\nthe killing of the President. SENATOR does not know why this\n$ not recall\nhad such an intense effect on RUBY since he had never heard RUBY\nalthough\nmake any remarks in the past which would indicate any closer\n1g of the Pre:\nfeeling for the KENNEDYS than RUBY/had for anyone else who might\nhave been President of the United States. SENATOR was unable\nto give any reason for RUBY's killing of OSWALD other than to\nevening of\nsay \"He must have thought an awful lot of President KENNEDY\".\nis condition\nNATOR has =\nSENATOR helped out occasionally around the Carousel\nIter, RUBY\nClub and occasionally visited the Vegas Club, but never knew LEE\nthough\nOSWALD and has no knowledge LEE OSWALD ever visited either of\nnow when\nthese places. In the many discussions with RUBY following the\nshooting of President KENNEDY, no mention was made of OSWALD's\nTOR noticed\nname at any time and RUBY gave no indication of having any know-\nledge of or acquaintanceship with OSWALD. He never heard RUBY\neps at the\nsay OSWALD had ever visited oither one of the clubs in which\nleft the\nog to the\nALD.\n4\n299\nXERO\nXERO)\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5401-Continued\n431\n5\nDL 44-1639\nRUBY was interested. There was nothing which happened between\nthe shooting of President KENNEDY and RUBY's shooting of QSWALD\nwhich gave SENATOR any inkling RUBY had in mind the shooting of\nOSWALD when he left the apartment on the morning of November 24\n1963, or anytime prior to that. Ho 1s unable to state when\nRUBY's intention to shoot OSWALD might have been formulated.\nResearch\nAt no time they were discussing the killing of\nKENNEDY did RUBY ever make any remark he thought someone should\nshoot OSWALD or anything special should happen to OSWALD, other\nTerms\nthan he be tried and given what he deserved.\nEiner %. Moore\nSENATOR has no knowledge of RUBY's having had any con-\nfederates or confidants. with respect to his action in shooting\nOSWALD. SENATOR has no reason to believe RUBY did have any con-\nfederates or confidants. He is of the opinion RUBY's actions\nwere impulsive and not planned for any great length of time prior\nResults\nto their execution.\nroommat\nSENATOR believes most of RUBY's family lived in Chicago\nDETAILS OR\nbut, as carlier stated, he has no knowledge RUBY has any connection\nReference ::\nthere or any other place in the United States in any kind of\nbusiness way, legal or illegal. RUBY has a sister in Dallas,\nGoorge (1001)\nEVA GRANT, who is either divorced from her husband or a widow.\ncomplete\nSENATOR does not know the address of EVA GRANT.\nof -\n1933, for the\nAccording to SENATOR, at no time during the above\nJack Biby, who she\nchronology, from the shooting of President KENNEDY to the last\ntime SENATOR saw RUBY before the shooting of OSWALD was there\nGeorge Senate\nany evidence RUBY was under the influence of alcohol or narcotics.\n:::: York on Septe\nTo SENATOR's knowledge, RUSY was a non-user of alcohol and was\nanother brother at\nnever known to use narcotics of any kind. SENATOR denied any\nCaty, He complete\n=: Gloversville\nknowledge of any mental disorder of any kind in RUBY's history.\nfactory, for\n=: times. About\n:02 about one year\nrestaurant. He\ndustry. About 193\nneighbors, the Sc\nas a kito\nboth New York Cit,\n2\n4\nXEPO\n300\nXERO!\nCOPY\nCOPY\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5401-Continued\n432\nWeshington D.S.\napril 122 1734\n590\nroma No.\nGiorge Someter examition\n(7-1-00)\nUNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE\nGSY02\nTREASURY DEPARTMENT\nJ\nned between\nBunt thefter\nof\nis of OSWALD\nshooting of\nCRISIN\nField\nOFFICE Dallas\nFILE NO. 00-2-34,030\nNovember 24,\nn/a OF CASE\nSTATUS\nTITLE OR CAPTION\nte when\nmulated.\nProtective Research\nContinued\nAssassination of President Kennedy,\nilling of\nAUSTINATION MADE AT\nPERIOD COVERED\nDallas, Texas\neone should\nDallas, Texas\nDecember 3, 1963\nGeorge Senator\nWALD, other\nEVIESTIGATION MADE BY\nSA Elmer V. Moore\nhad any con-\nDETAILS\nin shooting\nave any con-\nSYNOPSIS\nextrad\n's actions\nof time prior\nResults of interview with George Senator, Puby's\nroommate.\nDETAILS OF INVESTICATION\nad in Chicago\nay connection\nReference is made to previous reports.\nkind of\nDallas,\nGeorge (1001) Senator (White; male; 5-78; 192; brown eyes; brown-grey\na widow.\nhair; CASH complexion, mole left check; appendectomy scar, cut scar tip of\nring of left hand) was interviewed at the Dallas Office December 3,\n1963, for the purpose of ascertaining his background and association with\nabove\nJack Ruby, who shot and killed Lee Harvey Oswald.\nthe last\nas there\nGeorge Senator stated that he was born of Jewish parents at Gloversville,\nor narcotics.\nNew York on September 4, 1913. He has one brother living in Gloversville,\n1 and was\nanother brother at Rochester, and three married sisters living in New York\nnied any\nCity. He completed his formal education upon graduation from grammar school\n$ history.\nat Gloversville in June 1929. He went to New York City and worked in a hat\nfactory, for Westorn Union, in the wholesale silk industry, and was unamployed\nat times. About 1932 he developed lung trouble and returned to Goversville\nfor about one year, part of which he worked for 2 brother who operated a small\nrestaurant. He returned to New York City and again worked in the silk in-\ndustry. About 1934 he again returned to Gloversville and left there with\nneighbors, the Sebring family, to so to Florida. He worked at Miami in various\nrescrts as a kitchen worker. Between 1934 and 1941 he lived and worked in\nboth New York City and Miami.\n+1/22/60\nFIFTH DIR\nCn August 21, 1941, he entered the Army Air Force and was assigned\n4/22/6 12,006,042. He served mainly as an abrial armourer with the (5th Bomber\n:\nCommand, 433rd Code In Australia and Pacific Theater during World Mar II.\nASTRIBUTION 1\nREPORT MADE BY\nChief\nOrig. & 2\nElmer W. Maa590 CRSN\nDATE\n12-7-63\nDallas\n2\nSPECIALAGENT\nAPPROVED\nDATE\n12-7-63\nEx.No.5402\nSENATOR,Geo.\nDeposition\nCONTINUE ON PLAIN\nWashington, D.C. 4-22-64\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5402\n433\nCO-2-34,030\nPage 2\nHe was discharged as a Staff Sergeant on September 9, 1945.\nbe at Carol-Stre\nshooting of Proo\nHe then operated a lunch counter in New York City for about one year.\ncloo did that de\nIn January 1946, he married Shirley Baron of the Bronx. A son, Robert, was\nHe returned to\nborn of this marriage on October 6, 1947. Ho was divorced in 1956 in Dallas\ndoesents\nDIGN'T\nand his former wife later married a men named Woxler:\nAt about 3:\nroom and woke his\nSenator went to Mini in 1947 and worked as a lunch countorman for about\nthat :.o had Doug\ntwo years. He then because a dress salcoman for the Roha Manufacturing Company\nPresident. May\nof Milwaukee for about nine months. The next ten years he sold dresses for\nClub and told M\nSmoler Bros. of Chicago and moved to Dallas for that company about May 1954.\nin front of the\nHe traveled considerably as a clothing salesman out of Dallas until about\nCO some place wi\n1959 - 1960. He then worked at odd jobs and in selling various lines, includ-\npicked up Larry\ninz novelities for the Volume Sales Co. of Dallas. He worked for Jack Ruby at\nRulion book three\nthe Carousel Club from March to August 1962, and at various other short periods\nSundor said the\nsince. He is presently a salesman of colored post cards for Dexter Press, West\nnot understand\nNyack, New York.\nwhoever they MAY\nX was carryin\nquestions wire\nAbout one and one-half years ago, Senator moved into Card apartment with\nthat Puby = A.\nJack Ruby, however, he stayed only about five months. He explained that Ruby\ndid not spell =\n\"isn't very neat about the house.\" Senator then moved into the Grandbury\nhinself. They V.\nApartments on Maple Avenue with Stanton Corbat, a dress buyer. In November,\ndrinking grapefr\nCorbat and Senator moved to Apartment 206, 223 S. Ewing Street, next to Ruby\nabout is. Chey\nwho by then occupied Apartment 207. Corbat married on August 10, 1963, and\non Invay Street\non November 1, 1963, Senator moved into Apartment 207 with Ruby. The apart-\nRuby action him\nment had a living-dining room, kitchen, bath and two bedrooms and rented for\nthe number of 22\n$125.00 a month.\nbe did not know\nRuby's questions\nthe Chrousel Club\nSenator stated that Ruby is a big-hearted man who has helped many people\nmately 5:00 A.M.\nwho were down on their luck. He said that Ruby was very emotional and, al-\nthough he did not appear to be very religious, took his faith very seriously,\nSenator of\nobserving all the Orthodox Jewish Holidays and particularly the memorial\nThey fisted breat\nservices for the dead. Ruby, he said, was a clean living man; did not smoke;\nemotional and ::\nrarely drank; liked to exercise by bar bells with occasional golf and swimming;\nand his children\nand was concerned about the fact that Senator drank too much in his opinion.\nby Cawald. Injoy\ncould not recall\nSenator said he had heard rumors since \"the trouble\" that Ruby is a honosexual\nrepeated over as\nand felt that such ideas cast a reflection him as he had lived with Ruby. He\nthe entire Kenne\nsaid he could assure anyone that Ruby is not a homosexual and has a normal\nman's interest in women. Ruby has no firm political convictions but regarded\nSenator 202\nhimself as a Democrat. Senator said Ruby was a man who liked people and had\nalternoon shoppi\na strong desire to be liked. He sometimes talked rough but actually was a\nwith different :\ngentle person. Senator discounted reports that Ruby is a \"street brawler\"\nand prepared din\nbut said that he can \"handle himself\" if necessary as he often had to act as\nabout 8:30 P.X.\nbouncer at his club. Senator stated that he did not know Oswald and that he\nwas certain that Ruby did not.\nfirst Kown\nSenator was questioned regarding his movements from November 22 to the\n24th. He stated that he left the apartment at 223 S. Ewing Street at approxi.\nnately 8:30 A.M., and that Ruby was still asloop when he departed. He made\nbusiness calls and stopped for lunch at a place called Jacques, believed to\n4/25/19\n590\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5402-Continued\n434\n2-34,030\nCO-2-34,030\nPage 2\nPage 3\nCARREN\nbe at Carol-Street and the Expressway. It was there that he learned of the\nshooting of President Kennedy. He said that he did probably what everybody\nclse did that day, listen to the news and grieved over the President's death.\n10 year.\nHe returned to the apartment and went to bed at approximately 10:30 P.K. He\ncort, was\ndoes Ruby again that day.\nin Dallas\nDIDN'T see\nAt about 3:00 A.M., Saturday, November 23, 1963, Jack care to Senator's\nroom and voice his. Jack told him he had been at his sister Eva's place, said\nfor about\nthat he had bought food for her, and that both had cried over the Math of the\ncing Company\nPresident. they then phoned a man known to Senator as Larmi the Carousel\n00003 for\nClub and told him to get OUD the polaroid camera and meet them on the street\nMay 1954.\nin front of the club. In the meantime, Ruby had asked Senator to got and\nabout\nCP some place with him. Ruby and Senator drove to the Carousel Club-where they\n100, includ-\npicked up Larry with the camera and drove to Hall Street and where\nRuby took three pictures of a poster bearing the words, \"Impeach Earl Marren.\"\nJack Ruby at\nSinator said that Ruby WIS quite inconsed about this poster and that he could\nshort periods\nnot understand how anyone would have the nerve to put up such a sign and that\n: Press, West\nwhoever they were they would have to be commies or birchers? At the same time\nTuby was carrying an ad which he had cut from a newspaper in a number of\nquestions were put to President Kennedy by a Bornard Messmant Senator said\nDATE with\nthat Ruby was also very \"hot\" about this article and commented that Wiessman\nthat Ruby\ndid not spell his name as a Jew, but if he were a Jew he should be ashamed of\nassury\nhinself. They went to the Southland Hotel Coffee Shop and had coffee, Puby\nNovember,\ndrinking grapefruit juice. While there, Ruby reread the ad and made comments\n:: to Ruby\nabout it. They left the Coffee Shop and went to the Main Dallas Post Office\n1963, and\non Ervay Street where Puby rang the night bell. A postal clork responded and\nRuby asked him who Bornard Wiessman was and who had rented the Post Office Box,\nhe apart-\nrented for\nthe number of which appeared in the article. The postal clerk told Ruby that\nhe did not know anything about the matter and the only person who could answer\nRuby's questions would be the Postmaster. After this Ruby book Larry back to\nthe Carousel Club and both Senator and Ruby went to their apartment at approxi-\nany people\nmately 5:00 A.K.\nand, al-\nno all from fony or 8:\nseriously,\nSenator said that he awoke about 10:30 A.M. and shortly after woice Cubz.\norial\nThey fisted breakfast and watched television. Senator said that Ruby was very\nnot smoke;\nemotional and kept asking what would happen to the President's family, his wife\nit\nand his children. He also expressed sorrow for the policeman who had been killed\nopinion.\nby Csuald. Ruby said that both the killings were in cold blood, but Senator\ncould not recall that at any time he expressed any hatred for Oswald. Ruby\nhonosexial\nrepeated over and over \"Why did this have to happen?\" and expressed pity for\nRuby. He\nnormal\nthe entire Kennedy family, time and time again.\n: regarded\nSenator left the apartment along about noon on Saturday and spent the\n: and had\nalternoon shopping for food and drinking beer at various places where he talked\n7 was a\nwith different people regarding the shooting. At about 7:30 P.M. he went home\nreview\nand prepared dinner, however, Ruby did not come in for dinner. Senator left\nto act as\nabout 8:30 P.M. and visited with friends named Bill Downey and Mike Barkley.\n= that he\ntital Xoren call fuly is his house of then time\n2 :0 the\n10 approxi-\nCRS7 590\nSo made\nloved to\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5402-Continued\n590\n435\nCO-2-34,030\nPage 4\n(FD-302 (Rev. 3-3-59)\nSenator returned to the apartment about 10:30 P.K. and found that Jack was\nthere and had eaten some of the food the Senator had cooked earlier.\nhe said, had been crying and was brooding without saying very much. Ruby Ruby,\nout-and Senator went to bed. Senator awoke on Sunday norning at approximately\n9:00 A.H. and spent some time doing launtiry while Ruby was asleep. At about\n(1)\nmont\n9:30 Ruby awake. They had breakfast and Senator said that Jack was\nin his rief\" and described him as being very upset with a strange look or.\nface 33 if he were in shock. During the morning a stripper, Little\nGEORGE SE\nImm. to may from Fort Worth as she needed money. Jack said be\nTexas, furnished the\nher some by Mestern Union. After that Ruby took his dachshund\nA.\nSheba and said he was going to drive to the club. Senator did not see Ruby\nHe came :\nagain until after his arrest for shooting Oswald.\n1955. He believes\nm\nof the Vegas Club.\nSenator said that it was his opinion that there was no premeditation on\nApril, 1952. He WO\nthe part of Ruby in shooting Oswald and that he must have done so on the sper\nin the business are\nof the moment. Senator said he had heard later that Ruby had spent some time\noccasions he would\nat the Carousel Club just sitting around and crying on Saturday. He added\non April, 1962, SEX\nthat Ruby was the first club owner to announce that he would close for three\nhim to stay in his\ndays. Senator said there were several things that may not have come to the\naddress unrecalled.\nattention of the authorities which would indicate to him that Ruby had not\nmonths at this addr\nplanned to shoot Oswald. He said the fact that Ruby had the dog Sheba, to\nof the Carousel Clui\nwhich he was very attached, in the car when he went to the police station\nAbout August or Sop\nalone would indicate that he intended towreturn soon. Also the fact that he\nCompany and moved :\nhad the cash receipts from the club in the car. Senator said he was con-\nremained at the Sow\nvinced that Ruby had emotionally worked hitiself up to such a pitch that when\nat the Carousel Clul\nhe saw Oswald in the basement of the police station he went out of his head.\nIn the la\nSenator said that he did not think that Ruby carried a gun at all times\n206, located at 223\nas he had seen Ruby's revolver stored in a blue canvass bag at both the club\nDepartment Store.\nand at the apartment. He said Ruby always carried the gun when he carried\ninto Apartment 207\nmoney from the club to the apartment or to the bank. Senator stated that\nwas ridiculous to think that Ruby had any connection with subversive organi-\nAbout Aug\nzations or with Oswald.\nof the rent to pay\namount by himself a:\nwith RUBY about the\nMa at the time of\nThey on Ruhis person\nMr. SENATE\nSo 639 their sensi\nto and with RUSY, be\nEWM:amr\nthis occasion RUBY\non amateur hours put\ncompetitors were 5c:\nbusiness. RUBY wor.\nthis situation. Mr\na young dog to CAND\nto New York, To th\nand was gona for et\n12/19/63\non\nof\n590\nby Special Agent RALPH\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5402-Continued\nThe document centains neither\n- agency; it and its contants\n436\nC-2-34,030\nPage 4\n(ro-102 3-3-55)\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGA ON\nJ\nJack was\nDate December 20, 1963\nRuby\n:\n(1)\nJack\nwas\n$\nlook\nGEORGE SENATOR, c/o Carousel Club, 1312 1/2 Commerce Street, Dallas,\nJack\nsain\nTexas, furnished the following information:\n:\ndad\nhund\nHe came to Dallas about May 15, 1954, and first met JACK RUBY about\nnot\nsee\nRuny\n1955. He believes this was at the time RUBY was assisting in the operation\nof the Vegas Club. RUBY was only a casual acquaintance until about March, or\nvoiltation\nApril, 1962. He would see him only infrequently when he happened to meet him\nDO on the spor\nin the business area of Dallas or at a restaurant or night club. On those\nBant some the\ncocasions he would talk to him for only a short period of time. About March\nHe added\non April, 1962, SENATOR was out of work and about out of funds. RUBY invited\n000 for three\nhim to stay in his apartment, which was located on South Marsalis, exact\ncome to the\naddress unrecalled. Mr. SENATOR stayed with RUBY for approximately five or six\nhad not\nmonths at this address, and during this period assisted RUBY in the operation\nSheba, to\nof the Carousel Club by acting as a cashier or taking tickets at the door.\nstation\nAbout August or September, 1962, SENATOR began operating the Texas Post Card\nfact\nthat\nCompany and moved to the Grandbury Apartments, located on Maple Street, MR. RUBY\nwas\ncon-\nremained at the South Marsalis address. SENATOR would still help cut occasionally\nthat\nat the Carousel Club on weekends and special occasions.\nof\nhis\nher..\nIn the latter part of November, 1952, SENATOR moved into Apartment\nall\ntitled\n206, located at:223 South Ewing with a Mr. STANTON CORBIT, a buyer for Titche's\nboth\nthe\n:-\nDepartment Store. He told JACK RUBY about the new apartments and RUBY moved\nthe carrive\ninto Apartment 207 in the latter part of November, 1962.\nAbout August, 1963, CORBIT got married and left SENATOR with all\nof the rent to pay on his apartment. He was unable to handle the entire\namount by himself and at the invitation of RUBY, moved into Apartment 207\nwith RUBY about the first week in November, 1963. He was still living with\nhis at the time of RUBY's arrest.\nMr. SENATOR advised that during the period he has lived next door\nto and with RUBY, he can recall only one trip out of town made by RUBY. On\nthis occasion RUBY was having trouble with his competitors over AGVA requirements\non amateur hours put on at the burlesque shows. He did not feel that his\ncompetitors were following the rules set forth by AGVA and this was hurting his\nbusiness. RUBY went to New York City to talk to the officers of AGVA concerning\nthis situation. Mr. SENATOR believes that on this same trip RUBY first took\n= young dog to CANDY BARR in the vicinity of Houston, Texas, prior to flying on\nto New York. To the best of SENATOR's knowledge, RUBY made this trip alone,\nand was gone for about three or four days. SENATOR does not know where RUBY\nEx.No.5403\nSENATOR,Geo.\nDeposition\nWashington,D.C. 4-22-64\n12/19/63\n\"\nDallas, Texas\nof\nFilo #\nDL 44-1639\n590\n\" Special Agent S RALPH E. RAWLINGS and JAMES F1 GLONEK, bnm Date dictated 12/20/63\n- document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It IN the property of the FBI and La loaned to\nPai acency: 11 and its contents ore no: to be distributed outside your agency.\n87\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5403\n437\nDL 44-100.\n44-1539\n(2)\n(3)\nstayed in New York City and does not know for sure the identity of the persons\nIn re\nhe contacted. He believes that RUBY contacted a Mr. BOBBY FAY of the AGVA\nhas boon gettin\npossibly a Mr. JOE GLAZIER (phonetic), a booking agent in New York. RUBY has\nand visiting va\ntalked to SENATOR about vacation trips he has taken, but SENATOR cannot\nrecall any details of these trips.\nSENAT\nhonosexual; how\nSENATOR stated that he has no information to indicate that RUBY has\nMubits are thos\nconnections with the hoodlum element in Chicago, Illinois. RUBY has confide:\nin Callas, but :\nto SENATOR that he grow up in a very tough neighborhood, but SENATOR has\nMICH PAUL, who\nseen no visitors whom he recognized as being from Chicago during the period\nsparates the ED\nof his close association with RUBY. The only close friend of RUBY known to\npreviously work\nSENATOR who has a Chicago connection was one MARTY GIMPLE (phonetic), a\ntraveling salesman who had formerly lived in Dallas and moved back to Chicago.\nSENAT\nMr. GIMPLE died about 1962.\ndescription, to\nThe only addresses recalled by SENATOR at which RUBY has resided :-\nSENATO\nDallas include the Continental Apartments on Homer Avenue, the address on\nto has never see\nSouth Marsalis at which SENATOR resided with RUBY for a short period of\nOSNALD, O. H. LE\nand the apartment at 223 South Ewing. He also recalled that RUBY lived with\nchoolutely no in\nhis sister, EVA GRANT, for a period of time, but he does not recall the\nCONALD.\ndates or address.\nThe fo\nSENATOR advised that RUBY was a Democrat but was not active in\nof the interview\npolitical affairs and very seldom even discussed them. He is not sure\nthat RUBY voted. At no time did RUBY express an opinion in SENATOR's presence\nName\nconcerning the Cuban crisis.\nRace\nSex\nDuring the period of his acquaintance with RUBY he has had no\nAge\nindication of any violation of law, such as the handling of narcotics,\nDate C\nallowing employees to practice prostitution, or fencing stolen articles.\nPlace\nRUBY operated a very strict business and would allow no disturbance in his\nHeight\nplace of business. He was checked very closely by the Dallas Police\nWeight\nDepartment every night. The officers who had this duty were strictly\nBuild\nbusiness and would appear at the Carousel Club practically every night at\nHair\nclosing time to insure that RUBY was abiding by the regulation that all\nEyes\nglasses and drinks had to be moved from the tables by 12:15 a.m., or\nComple\n1:15 a.m. on Sundays.\nScars\nRUBY always carried at least $2,000 or $3,000 in cash with him to\nMilita\nand from his place of business. He carried this money in a sack and on\neach trip he would take a revolver and place it in the bag on top of the\nmoney. This is the only gun possessed by RUBY, as far as Mr. SENATOR knew.\n88\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5403-Continued\n43S\n:3 44-1639\n(3)\ndentity of the person\nIn recent weeks RUBY has been trying to promote a Twist Board. He\nBY FAY of the AGVA\nLOS been getting up about S or 9 a.m. each day, prior to November 22, 1963,\nn New York. RUBY\nand visiting various department stores in an effort to promote this article.\nSENATOR cannot\nSENATOR advised that he has heard various reports that RUBY is a\nhomosexual; however, he is certain from his own observations that RUBY's sex\nadicate that RUBY\nLibits are those of a normal man. SENATOR advised that RUBY had many friends\n5. RUBY has confide.\nin Dallas, but he was unable to specify his closest friends, other than\nbut SENATOR has\nJALPH PAUL, who operates a place of business in Dallas; a MR. CAMPISI, who\n: during the period\noperates the Egyptian Lounge, and WALLY WESTON, a master of ceremonies, who has\n:d of RUBY known to\npreviously worked for RUSY.\n: (phonetic), a\noved back to Chicag\nSENATOR advised that JACK RUBY did not have credit cards of any\ndescription, to his knowledge.\nRUBY has resided :-\nSENATOR examined a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD and advised that\n, the address on\nto has never seen the man previously. He advised that the names LEE HARVEY\nhort period of time,\nCSNALD, O. H. LEE, or HIDELL meant nothing to him. He stated that he has\nhat RUBY lived with\nibsolutely no information to indicate that RUBY had. any connection with\nnot recall the\nOSWALD.\nThe following description of SENATOR was secured during the course\nS not active in\nof the interview:\n2 is not sure\n= SENATOR's present\nName\nGEORGE SENATOR\nRace\nWhite\nSex\nMale\nhe has had no\nAgo.\n50\nif narcotics,\nDate of Birth\n9/4/13\n:olen articles.\nPlace of Birth\nGloversville, New York\nsturbance in his\nHeight\n5'7 1/2\"\nlas Police\nWeight\n190 pounds\nre strictly\nBuild\nHeavy\nevery night at\nHair\nBrown, graying, curly\ntion that all\nEyes\nBrown, wears horn-rimmed glasses\n5 a.m., or\nComplexion\nDark\nScars & Marks\nSmall mole on left check near nose;\nsmall scar across bridge of nose\ncash with him to\nMilitary Service\nUSAF SN 12006042, enlisted 8/21/41, Albany,\nat sack and on\nNew York; discharged honorably 9/9/45,\non top of the\nFort Dix, New Jersey\nin. SENATOR knew.\nCR106\n89\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5403-Continued\n439\nDL 44-1639\n(R**. 2-3-59)\n(4)\n1\nMarital Status\nDivorced\nRelatives:\nJOI\nEx-wife\nSHIRLEY BOREN WEXLER, Coral Gables, Florida\nPolice & C\nSon\nROBERT LEE SENATOR, age 16, Coral Gables, Fla.\nof Dallas,\nFather\nABRAHAM SENATOR, deceased\nRoad, Lane\nMother\nANNA SENATOR, deceased\ntion:\nBrother\nJAKE SENATOR, Gloversville, New York\nBrother\nSAM SENATOR, Rochester, New York\nHe\nSister\nFRIEDA WEISBERG, 2255 Grand Concourse,\nBuilding a:\nBronx, New York\n1963, the\nSister\nPEARL SENATOR (married name and address unknown)\nwas there :\nSister\nLENA BIENANSTOCK, 1565 O'Dell Street,\nALFREDIA RI\nBronx, New York\nMC KINZIE.\nOccupation\nSalesman of women's apparel for Smoler\nthe basemer\nBrothers of Chicago, Illinois, for about\nfrom return\n10 years. Presently distributes\noperating :\npostcards under name of Texas Post Card\nfirst floo:\nCompany, 3616 Codar Springs, Dallas, Texas\nfour or fir\nArrest Record\nAdmits only one arrest -- about 1960\nWhen they :\nor 1961, Dallas Police Department,\nof the other\nfor drunkenness, was not fingerprinted\nwent to the\nMunicipal :\nramp leads\nCommerce St\nthere was C\nthe ramp.\nfirst floor\nallow SERVAI\nthey remain\nother man S:\nwith him wa.\nof the city\nSER\nwhen an amb.\nto the hospi\nbasement, DV\ndid operate\nof the Muni\nin the Muni\nSER\nCR106\ndid he know\n90\n12/10/63\nDal\non\nc:\nSENATOR EXHIBIT No. 5403-Continued\nby Special Agent\nJACK\nThe document contains neither THE\nINI agency: It and its contents are\n440\n74-732 0-51-vol. XNI--\nSam\nGeorge Senator's brother/lives at 174 Rosedale, Rochester, New York.\nHe advises that George lives on Datmouth Street, has no phone, and\nworks for R. T. French Company (sessonings).\nIf you cannot reach George at French, then try 9am ac either:\n(716) 271-0077 (home)\nor\n(716) 325-9696 (his resturant)\nI have already told him that Ramparts was concerned about George,\nand he opened up to me, so you shouldn't have any trouble.\nJulia Ann M rcer Stinson is living with her mother, Mrs. Gane,\nin Grand Repids, Michigan, on Oakdale Street. Her number is\n(616) CH 5-5747\nH rbert Apthecker can probably be reached through the Worker\noffice. If they are reluctant, then ask for the number of\nA. I. D. S. (Which is an institute for Marxist Studies newly\nformed in New York. Not the same as the school -- this is for\nscholars only.\nBy the way, I understand from the most sympathetic sources possible\nthat Apthecker has gotten extremely swell-headed about his accomplishmen\ns, so treat him with deference.\n508\nFD-101 (Rev. 1-3-19)\nEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIC\nFORM (nev. 1-3-68)\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\n6/26/64\nDate 6/26/64\n1\nDate\nMrs. LINDEN (JEANUS) LAUVE, 6011 Custon, telephone\nBVA GRANT, 3929 REWLING, Apt. 1, telephone LA 6-6258,\nSA 7-7002, advined GEORGE SENATOR has been known to her and her\nadvised who known JACK L. BUDY, Loss brother, swand and wore .\nhusband for nom time and lived with the following the chooting\ntopoost while living in Chicago prior to coming to Dollar,\nof LSE HARVEY OSWALD by JACK L. RUDY WILLI none three withs After\nTAXAS. She said, however, at.o down not recall ever months\ncompletion of RUBY's trial in farch, 1034. Che received * call\nRURY wear a topcost in Dallar and dosa NOC bollove he possessed\nfrom SENATOR socitime thoresitcr, at which this he and he MAG\nand wore a copcort. the eaid she and 1000 RUBY regularly during\nliving with his siuter, Mrs. A. J. 2235 Crind Concourse,\nthe 1801 four years and lived with his Austing 3 past of this\nBronx, How York, telephone SE 3-1671.\npartod. He occasionally wore sweaters under his euit costs\nWEISBERS\nduring cold westher.\nMrs. IAUVE stated comeone gove SINV201 : topoost about\none year ago, and this was the only topoort one NAME him to have\nMrs. GRANT said the believes 020203 SINVICE voca a\n53 of November, 1963. she described the cost on \"loud, dark the\nNavy-blue raincost on occasions but dead not recall ever seaing\nor brown checked and gaudy.\" She remithered commenting to EX:C. as\nhim with a topocat on and does not bollave he owned one.\nwhen nhe first saw the cost on the apporant tasto of the donor for\ngaudy clothing.\nMrs. LAUVE recelled further SHIRTOR ESSO = trip to POR\nSenstor\nhis family in the New York City area botwoon RUCY's bond hearing\nand murder trial. On his return to Dolles, to told her his brother-\nin-law had noted the topcoot described above htd D holo in it and\nhad given SENATOR another one.\nnew york\nCE 2415 FBI investigation\n6/26/64\nDallas, Texas\n6/.6/64\nDellas, Texas\non\nof\nFile , DL 44-1639\non\n01\nFile , DL 44-1639\nDate dictated 6/26/64\nby Special Agent\nMANNING C. CLIMENTS/eah\nby Special Agent MANNENG C.\nDate distated 6/26/64\nThis document - - recommondations -- constrations of the Fal. \" - the property of the For ... - incomed is\nYour - - *** DE - - - .. - distributed UNITALS *******\nThis document contains - -- conclusions of the FUL a is the property of the FAT and is I to\n- ******) - ... - *** --- .. .. distributed with - .......\nCommissioner EXPIRAT No Continued\nCOMMISSION No 2415- Contromed\nFEDERAL FUREAUUR INVESTIGATION\nINVESTIGATION\nDate 6/26/64\nDate 6/26/64\nCHARLES R. GAMBULOS, 3104 Amherst, was interviewed\nat his place of employment, Eatwell Restaurant, 1404 Main\nMILDRED POLLARD, 5319 Ash Lane, was interviewed st\nStreet.\nher Street. place of employment, Eatwell Restaurant, 1404 Main\nGAMBULOS said no does not have any specific\nMrs. POLLARD said she has no recollection of what\nrecollection of ever having suon JACK RULY in a top or over-\ncolor or type of top or overcost GEORGE SENATOR owned, and\ncost. He cold GEORGE BENATOR had a brownich-twood overcost\ndoos not remember having ever seen his In one, although she\nof heavy-looking wool type ctd this to the only coat of other\nproduce he did have and occasionally did wour an overcoat\nthan suit-cost type he rocalls having over seen SENATOR wear.\nof some type. To Nor Deat recollection, when she baw SENATOR\nhe said, AA he recembers, this coat looked quite worn.\nin the Patwell on the morning LEE HARVEY\nGAMAULOS 000 AST New Mather SERVICE 404 any grayish top or\nWAT\nFile : DL 44-1633\nby Special Agree c.\nDate dictated 6/26/64\nby Special Agent NAMHING c.\nDate dictated 6/26/64\nTHE - - - -- *********** of the FML is is ** property of the FUL - - I to\n- ****** \" *** . statests ... ... 10 . Fustributed - ... ......\n- ****** \" and 114 Fontents *** - in - subjected extable - *******\nThis - contains recommendations -- complexions of the Fel. \" is the - \" the FAI and is looked to\nCommissions Extrager No 2415 Contract\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No Continued\n-\nFEDERAL PUREAU of INVESTIGATION\n- ....\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\n1\nA\nDate 6/26/64\nDate 6/26/64\nCHARLES R. GAMBULOS, 3104 Amherat, was interviewed\nMILDRED POLLARD, 5319 Ash Lane, WSD interviewed at\nat his place of employment, Eatwell Restaurant, 1404 Main\nher place of employment, Eatwell Restaurant, 1404 Main\nStreet.\n.\nStreet.\nGAMBULOS said he does not have any specific\nMrs. POLLARD said she has no recollaction of what\nrecollection of over having seen JACK RUSY in a top or over-\ncolor or type of top or overcoat GLORGE SENATOR owned, and\ncost. He said GEORGE SENATOR had a brownish-tweed overcoat\ndoes not remember having ever scen him in one, although she\nof heavy-looking wool type and this is the only coat of other\npresumes he did have and occasionally did woar an overcoat\nthan suit-coat type he rocalls having ever seen SENATOR wear.\nof some typo. TO her best recollection, when cho caw SENATOR\nNo said, as he remembers, this coat looked quite worn.\nin the Eatwell on the morning LEE HARVEY OSWALD was shot, he\nCAMBULOS does not know whether SENATOR had any grayish top or\nwas wearing only a suit-coat and did not have a top or over-\novercoats, but, if he did, ha does not have any recollection\ncoat of any kind with him.\nof having seen him wearing them.\nMra. POLLARD never know JACK RUBY, and had no\nknowledge who RUBY was until after the Sunday on Which OSWALD\nwas shot.\non 6/26/04 of Dallas, Texas\nFile , DL 44-1639\nOn 6/26/64 of Dallas Texas\nFile , DL 44-1639\nby Special Agent KENNETH C. HOWE/ds\n6/26/64\nDate distated\nby Special Agent KENNETH C. HOWE/de\nDate dictated 6/26/64\nThis document subtaine malther urommendations - sunclasions of the Pal. a is the property of the Fat ... . Issued to\n- * \" *** its ... ... 1. .. disbibated wishe your agency.\nThis YOUR - \" containe - - constants nother recommendal *** ** to be distributed - outside Issued your of the ******* Fat. \" is the property of the FAI and is Issued to\n509\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 2415-Continued\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 2415-Continued\n510\nFD-111 (Rev. 1-11-4p)\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGA IN\nFO-103 (Mes. 1-3-14)\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nDate 7/1/64\nDate\n6/26/64\n11\nWILFORD JAMES (JIM) MARTIN, attorney, 706 Main\nGEORGE SENATOR was interviewed at the New York\nStreet, said that on most occasions when he had onon JACK\nOffice of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FDI). Ho\nfurnished the following information:\nRUBY in the past it was indoors and he would not, of course,\nhave been wearing any type of outer garment other than a\nHe presently resides at the Chesterfield Hotel,\nsuit coat. He cannot remember whether he ever DAW him in a\n130 West 49th Street, New lork, New York and he is not\ntop coat.\nemployed. His present residence 10 not permanent, but he\ncan always be located through his nister, Mrs. A. J. WEISBERG,\nAo to GEORGE SENATOR. MARTIN said he was much\n2255 Grand Concourse, Bronx, New York.\ncloser to him, and certainly believes he must have, at one\ntime or another. seen SENATOR in a top or overcoat of some\nHe was livingwith JACK RUBY in Dallas, Texas on\ntype, but ho could not specifically bring to mind any such\nNovember 24, 1963. He readled that he arose about 8:00 a.m. that.day\nand RUBY was ssleep at the time. He did not know what time\noccasion, and was unable to give any description of any such\ntype garment SENATOR might have had. MARTIN said he ad-\nmittodly 16 vory unobservant in connection with matters of\nthis kind, and could not even state Whether SENATOR was\nSunday\nRUBY had gettrnhome during the night.\nRUBY did not leave the apartment with anyone\non the morning of November 24, 1903 until approximately\nwearing any type of outer garment on the occasion whon he\nAM\n10:30 a.m. This was shortly after RUBY had received a\ncame to his home following the shooting of LEE HARVEY OSWALD.\ntelephone call from \"LITTLE LYHN\" a striptense performer.\nSENATOR believed RUBY night have had cocothing to eat,\nwashed up after the telephone call and then left the apartment\nwith his dog.\nRuby\nSENATOR recalled that RUBY was wearing a blue\nbuit and had when he left the apartment. He did not wear\na topcoat and to SENATOR's knowledge RUBY did not own a\ntopcont.\nSENATOR did not own a \"greyish topcoat* at that time.\nSENATOR docu own a brown plaid English tweed topcoat,\nbut he did not wear it on November 24, 1963.\nSENATOR left the apartment about one hour after\nRUBY and was having coffee in a restaurant at the time that\nLEE HARVEY OSWALD was shot.\n6/30/64\nNew York, New York\nOn\nof\nFile , NY 44-974\non 6/25/64 of Dallas, TOXOS\nFile , DL 44-1639\nSAS EUGENE W. O'NEILL and\nby\nJAMES J. ROGERS:rea\nDate dictated 7/1/04\nby Special Agent HOWE/de\nDate diclared 6/26/64\nThis -\nof\nPai.\n\"\nto\nproperty\nof\nthe\nFRI\nand\n10\nI\n-\n.... agency.\n-\nCommonion Examit No 2415 Continued\nFEDERAL BUNKAU or INVESTIGATION\nIn Regis l'leage Hale -\nFEDERAL RUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nFile No\nDallas\nDate 8/10/64\nFD-101 (May, 1-83-80)\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF IN\nCommission Exhibit No. 2419\n-\nDate\n8/23/64\nDL 44-1639\n2\nGEORGE SENATOR advised that he presently resides\nat the Briatol Hotel, Room 1211, 129 Wet 48th Street,\nby sight but 18 not a personal friend of RUSY'Q. He know\nNew York, New York. He also advised that he in employed\nOLDEN an a mumber of the Dallas Police Department, and he\nrecognized the girl with OLDER no one of the dancors at\n22.\nas a cashier at the Mr. Kinka Delicatessen, 150 West 49th\nStreet, New York, New York.\nROBY's night club, but SIMPSON stated he was not a closs\nfriend of any of the three individuals. Be would have,had\nSENATOR gave the following account of his activities\nno reason to listen to or to partake in their private\nduring the morning of November 24, 1963:\nconversations.\nI arese around 8:00 a.m. and made myself 0 CU) or\ncoffee. RUBY cot up later and made himself two 0388 and\ncoffee, however, I did not eat.\nRUBY left the apartment around 10:30 a.m. alone.\nRUBY, while in the apartment, was mumbling to himmolf, and\nwhen I baked him what he was coying he replied nothing. RUBY\nnever mentioned anything about killing OSWALD.\nI did not make a phone call to WILLIAM DOWNEY on\nthis day and I nover recall ever offering to make breakfast\nfor DOWNEY or his wife at their apartment. DOWNSY is a\ntraveling salesman and a very heavy drinker, and when drin':1.10\nhe doon a lot of talking and exaggerates is great deal.\nWhen I left Dallas, Texas, DOWNEY and I were not\non speaking tomas.\non the morning of November 24, 1963, I left t.e\napartment amound 11:00 or 11:30 a.m. and went to the Eat\nhis activities Nor 24 1963\nWell Restaurant\" on Main Street for breakfast. While I was\nin the restaurant one of the waltresses told me that she had\njust hoard on the radio that OSWALD had been shot by an\nman. I immediately called my friend\nis an attorney, to tell him the news. JIM's\nthe phone and told no he was at church and would Le home soon.\nCE 2419 Senator's account of\nShortly thereafter the radio announced that RUBY\nhad shot OSWALD. I immediately went to JIM MARTIN's home,\nand when I arrived there he told no he had just seen the\nnhooting on television. At this time both MARTIN and myself\nwent to the court house whare I remained All day\n1215 Third Avenue,\nOn\n8/27/64 of\nNew York, New York\nFile , NY 44.974\nby\nSA EUGENE W. O'NEILL/lac\n2.\nDate dictated\n8/28/64\nThis - fortaine mether Insure - concissions of the Fal. \" to the property at the Fat ... 14 104*** to\n- ****** . and - contrate ... -- \" -- distributed - ... *******\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 2418-Continued\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 2419\nME DALLAS. TEXAS \"2\"1B\nJam Buhy\nOFFICE\nDATE\nRECEIVED FUCH\n568\nFO-141 (Rev. 1411\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nFD-101 (Rev.\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGA N\n1\nDate September 7, 1964\nDate\n3/9/64\nGAURIEL D. MACIAS, Badge No. 1374, Dallas Police\nDepartment, & resident of 3005 Klondike, Dallas, Texas, VAB\ninterviewed at the Dallas Police Department.\nGEORGE SENATOR who resides at the Bristol Hotel,\nMA :1 is viewed photograph No. 6 and identified\n129 West 48th Street, room 1211 and in employed as a cachier\n.himmelf as the police officer who appears on the right-hand\nat the Mr. Kishka Restaurant, 150 West 49th Street, Manhattan,\nside of the photograph who 10 moving in the direction of the\nNew York, was interviewed on September 8, 1964.\nman believed TO be JACK RUBY.\nThe six photographs furnished by the President's\nMACIAS stated he was on duty for only R few minutes\nCommission on the Assassination of President KENNEDY were\non the third floor of the Police Department on the night of\nexhibited to GEORGE SENATOR.\nNovember 22, 1963, and his assignment was to keep the reporters\nand exceramen in the ballway moving in order to keep the aisle\nHe identified JACK RUBY in photographs one and\ncleared. MACIAS stated that ho only vaguoly knows JACK L.\ntwo as the man standing in the last row, right hand side,\nRUST, and he done not recall having soon RUBY on the third\ndressed in a dark nuit, wearing a tie and carrying a\nfloor of the Police Department during the very short time he\nhankerchief in his breast pocket.\nvas on duty At that assignment.\nOn observing photographs three and four, SENATOR\nOfficer MACIAS viewed photograph No 6, in which he\nsaid he believed RUBY in photograph three was the alightly\nis shown, and stated that be cannot identify RUBY AN being AD\nbald ran in the center of the picture shown walking out\nindividual shown in that photograph as he does not feel that\nof the door and in photograph four he believed that\nhe know RUBY well enough to make an identification from this\nRUBY was the slightly bald man in the foreground with his\nphotograph.\nright hand in his pocket and his back to the camera.\nSENATOR believed that JACK RUBY was the man shown in\nphotograph five and aix who 15 depicted standing in the\nforeground in about the center of the photographs.\nSENATOR was unable to identify the police\nofficer who appears on the right hand side of photograph\nsix.\nhv yours betr F.J\n5\n6\n9/8/64\nNew York, New York\nNY 44-974\n.. 0/5/04 \" Dallar Texas\nFile , DL 44-1039\nOn\nof\nFile ,\nby Special Agent RICHARD J, BURNETT/PN\nDate diclated 9/7/64\nSA JAMES J. ROGERS/dmb\n9/9/64\nby\nDate dictated\nThis - - matther recommendations - consisions of the rel. ate 14 the property of the Fat *** is leased 18\nThis Incument contains meither recommendations - concissions of the ret. 24 10 the property of the FAI and is loased 18\n- ******* \" are 110 contacts *** ⑉ 14 - distributed your agency.\n- ******) \" and 118 cantents *** ⑉ 18 ** distributed OUTRICE your agency,\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 2439-Continued\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 2439-Continued\n728\nPRESIDENT'S Commanon\nON THE\nAMAMINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY\n30 Maryland Aw NE\nEASL WARTH\nWashington, DC 2003\nFUL RANEIN\nUse\nTelephone 341-1400\n--- - *****\nSTATE -\nGRAIN -\nDL 44-1639\n- ACTION\nALLEN DOLIZER\nLLR:1p\nMAR 18, 1964\nIN\nOn December 12, 1963, LEO L. ROBERTSON, SA, conducted\nMr. Mark Lane\nthe following investigation:\n164 West 79% Street\nApartment 14.A\nJ. H. KITCHING, Identification Officer in the Identi-\nNov York, lew York\nfication Division of the Dallas County Sheriff's Office, advised\nthat they had no record of any kind Dr GEORGE SENATOR.\nDear Mr. Lane:\nPAT SIWEC of the Dallas Police Department Records\nDiring the course of your testimony before this Commission\nBureau, checked their file and found that GEORGE SENATOR had\nyou discussed An alleged meeting which was supposed to have\narrest # 61-88755. This record reflected that he WAG a white\ntaken place In the Carousel Club approximately one **\nmale, born September 4, 1913, and gave his residence address as\nbefore the abrassination of President Kennedy, You advised\n4917 Live Oak Street, Dallas, Texas. He WAR arrosed in the\nthat present at this meeting were Permed Wetnsmin. Officer\n4800 Block of Dryan Street by Patrolmen N. T. CHRISTOPHER, Badge\nTippit and Jack Ruby. In executive session, you advised the\n#670 (now deceased), and R. D. BROOKS, Badge \" 1511. This arrest\nCommission that you would attempt to obtain permission from\noccurred at 10:50 PM, September 12, 1961. No WAN charged with\nyour source of information to reveal his name to the Commission.\ndrunk and disorderly. The records also reflected that he had\ndeposited a canh bond of $10 and then forfeited the bond\nIn view of the possible importance of this information.\nwe would like to know whether you are in a position to reveal\nLieutenant M. F. DYSON, of the Special Service Dureau,\narrest record\nyour source of information at this time.\nwas unable to find any record in their files. Ro also checked\nthe Intelligence files of that bureau, where they keep rumors and\nSincerely,\nthings of that nature concerning homouexuals and other abnormal\npeople, and was unable to find any record of SENATOR there.\nCE 2519 re SENATOR\nLieutenant K. P. KNIGHT of the Identification Bureau\nof the Dallas Pulice Department, advised that they had no record\nJ. Lee Rankin\nof SENATOR.\nGeneral Counsel\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 2518\n211\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 2519\n- =\nFD-111 (Rev. -\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF IN\nCommission Exhibit No. 2520\nI\nDate November 30, 1963\n1\nNO 89-09 lejo\nIN\nCommission Exhibi. No. 3023\nFD-141 (Mer. 1411111\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF\n2\nDate 6/12/64\nDL 44-1639\nMILDRED POLLARD, 5319 Ash Line, said she has been employed\nas A waitress at the Eatwoll Restaurant, 1404 Main Street, for some\n\"his Reat and said \"Ny God!\" PA distoly rushed over to\nsixteen years. She gave the following statement in writing and signed\nthe pay phone on the wall and lialled. 'I don's know whether\nit:\nhe got any answer or talked to anyone or not since the\ntelephone 10 across the room from the counter where I was\n\"Dallas, Texas\nworking that day and, bosiden, 1. didn't pay any accent Lon to\nJune 9, 1964\nMIAL be was doing. He then rushed back over to the counter\nwhere he had been sitting and gulped his coffee down. the\n\"I, Mildred Pollard, 5319 Ash Lane, voluntarily give\n:ossed a dime on the counter and rushed out of the restaurant,\nthe following information to Kennoth C. Howe who has\nHe turned to his right (cast) on Main St. & left the Area,\nidentified himself to me as an FBI agent. 1 work at\nwalking. I would Judge be had not been in the restaurant\nthe Eatwoll Restaurant at 1404 Main Street in Dallas as\nover five minutes, possibly less. 1 had no conversation with\na waitress and have worked there for sixteen years. I\nhim other than the above and did not know at the time the even\nknew George Senator as a rather regular customer of the\nknew Jack Ruby. I worked that day until about 2:30 or\nrestaurant for 2-3 years. 1 was on duty at the\n3:00 PM and have no recollection of Senstor coming back to\nEatwell on the Sunday in November, 1963 when Lee Harvey\nthe place any more that day up until the time 1 left. I SAW\nOswald was shot at the Dallas Police Station. There was\nhim in the restaurant on other days later on, but. never dis-\na customer sitting at the counter on about the third\ncussed the above with him. He seemed honest shocked and\nstool toward the rear from the cash register. He had\nsurprised when I told him about Ruby shooting Oawald,\nHe\na\ntransistor radio and We were all more or less listening\nseemed no different than usual when he first came in. 1\nto the broadcast about Oswald being moved from the police\ndon't remember the exact time Senator cause into the Entwell,\nstation, and all of 4 sudden the announcer said Oswald\nbut I do know it was just shortly after the announcement of\nhad been shot. A short time later he said the man who\nthe shooting of Oswald. I remember the later announcement\nshot Oswald was a local night club operator by the name\nthat Oswald had died and Senator had left quite a while\nof Jack Ruby. This name meant nothing to 1045 for ! had\nbefore this. I have read the above statement constating\nno idea who Jack Ruby was. A whort time after this news\nof this and 3 other pages and it 5.5 true to my best\nbroke, George Senator came into the restaurant and sat\nrecollection and balleye\ndown at the counter on the lost stool in the first section\ntoward the rear from the cash register, this being just\n\"/s/ MILDRED POLLARD\none stool away from where the boy with the radio was\n\"Witneased:\nKENNETH HOWE\nsitting. He ordered a cup 01 coffee and I brought it to\nFBI, Dallas\nhim. Be noticed the excitement in the place and asked me\n6/9/64\"\nwhat was going on and I said \"Haven's you heard? Owald's\nEatwell Restamant incident\nbeen shot.\" He asked who did It and I told him it was\na\nnight club operator named Jack Ruby. At this he said\nMrs. POLLARD was unable to give any information which would\n\"You\" re kidding,\" and 1 told him I wasn't, that it had been\nserve to identify the customer who VAC at the counter of the restaurant\namounced on the radio. When 1 said this he jumped up off\nwith the transistor radio on the above occasion. She said SENATOR\ncame into the restaurant alone, left alone, and did not, to her know-\nledge, talk to anyone else in the place.\n6/9/64\nan\nDallas, Texas\nDL 44-1639\n\"\nFile\nKENNE\nJ.\nHOWELVE\nCE 3024 Te Senator Jim Martin\n*****\n6/12/64\nDate\ninvistigate\nA\nDate 6/15/64\nCLORIA FREEMAN, 10333 Dol Aire, Dallas, TUXAS, said\nM:A. POLLARD could Curnish no information AS to the\nshe started to work at the Catwell Restrurant, 1404 Main\nactivities of COOLE SENATOR on Subarday, November 23, 1963, or\nStreet, Dillas, in September 1963, and has rince left her\npreceding days. She pointed out he CANAD into the Eatwall frequently\nwork there Docause of health.\nand could have been to on November 22 or 23, 1963, although she has\nnothing which would ftx those dates in her alnd with respect to him.\nthe WAD on duty on the Sunday in se resider when\nthe never heard his discuss enything about photographing any postern,\nLES HARVEY OGWARD was shot at the Dallas Police Department,\nAnd, as brought out in her statement, who did not even know SENATOR\nbut liad taken off on the preceding Friday and Saturday.\nknow JACK RULY until subsequent to the shooting of OCWALD. He was\nnot in the habit of talking to any Length with her on the occaptions\nMrs. PREPANN did not know GEORGE BENATOR by name,\nLa - Into the Ratuall, and their conversat on the ordinity\ncreation only -- a Netal cannot placements.\nbut did recognize his picture When GOOD on television and ::\nbeen shot.\" the asked who did is and 1 told him It was\na\nMrs. POLLARD was unable to give Any information which would\nnight club operator named Jock Ruby. AC this he said\nserve to Identify the customer who was at the counter of the restrurant\n'You're kidding,\" and I told his I wasn't, that it had been\nwith the transistor radio on the above occasion. She said SENATOR\nannounced on the radio. When 1 said this he jumped up off\ncare into the restaurant alone, left alone, and did not, to her know-\nledge, talk to anyone else in the place.\non 6/9/64 of Dallas, Texas\nDL 44-1639\nFile\n#\nby Special Agent KENNETH C. HOWEIVE\n6/12/64\nDate\ndistated\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3023 \" 'ontinued\nread imax. -\n-DERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nDL 44-1639\n1\nDate 6/15/64\nMrs. POLLARD could furnish no information as to the\nGLORIA PREEMAN, 10333 Dol Airo, Dallas, Texas, said\nactivities of CHORGE SENATOR on Saturday, November 23, 1963, or\nshe started to work at the Eatwell Restaurant, 1404 Main\npreceding days. She pointed out he came into the Eatwall frequently\nStreet, Dallas, in September 1963, and has pince Left her\nand could have been in on November 22 or 23, 1963, although she has\nwork there because of health.\nnothing which would fix those dates in her mind with respect to him.\nShe never heard him discuss anything about photographing any postere,\nShe WAS on duty on the Sunday in November when\nand, 0.5 brought out in her statement, who did not even know SENATOR\nLEE HARVEY OSWALD was shot at the Dallas Police Department,\nknew JACK KUBY until subsequent to the shooting of OSWALD. Ha was\nbut had taken off on the proceding Priday and saturday.\nnot in the habit of talking to any length with her on the occesions\nha case into the Eatwell, and their conversation on the ordinary\nMrs. PREEMAN did not know GEORGE DENATOR by name,\noccasion amounted only to A brief exchange of casual pleasantries.\nbut did recognize his picture when seen on tolevision and Ir\nthe newspapors, as that of a customer she had poon rather\nOn the Sunday in question, November 24, 1963, she was\nregularly in the Hatwell. She had never Doon JACK HUBY be-\n\"working the counter,\" Mrs. POLLARD said, and \"taking cash,\" 1.0.,\nfore, although subsequently told by used of the others at the\ntaking the money from customers as they paid their checks upon\nrestaurant, that he occasionally also cama into the place,\nleaving. She said it was her usual custom to do this on Sundays\nbut late at night.\nsince He. JAMES CAMBULOS, the owner, had had an operation of some\n8012, and, although he was at the restaurant to her recollection,\nThere was a young man, Mrs. FREEMAN recalls, who\nthe operation had affected his aind to some extent and he did not\ncame into the restaurant with a small transistor radio and\nhandle the ench. On this Sunday there were several other customers\nsat at the counter listening to it. Phore were also two or\nin the restaurant, but Mrs. POLLARD cannot remember that any of\nthree workmon from the construction job at the now First\nthem were individuals whose identities she knows except one party who\nNational Bank building, and porhaps four or five other people\nwas a friend of JAMES CAMBULOS and who has since died.\nin the place when the news of the shooting Came over the air,\nbut Mrs. FREEMAN doos not know the Identity of any of these\nMrs. POLLARD gave the above information froely, but said\nindividuals.\nshe does \"not want to get involved,\" and consequently, requested her\nname not be made known outside official quarters.\nMrs. PREEMAN said the young man with the radio sat\nin the first section of the counter from the cash register at\nthe front of the Ratwoll, and BOMO of the workmon were along-\nside him whon the nows broke. These individuals subsequently\nleft. but who might have subsequently takon any of these\nsoats Mrs. FREEMAN does not remember.\nExcept for the upual \"time of day* with which Mrs.\nPREEMAN sald she greeted all of hor customors, she had never\ntalked to GEORGE SENATOR and knew nothing rbout him. She has\nno recollection or having soon him in the Estwoll at any time\nduring the Bunday in November 1963, on which OSWALD was shot.\non 6/10/64 of Dallas, Texas\nFile , DL 44-1639\nby Special Agent KENNETH C. HOWE/de\nDate dictated 6/12/64\nTHE - - recommendations - of the Fal, \" is the property of the Fat ... is leased .\nyour ******* \" ... - sumients *** ... 10 distributed - you CHANGE\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No, 3023-Continued\n565\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3023-Continued\n566\nFD-101 (Rev. 1-2-111\nEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATI.\n&\nDate 6/15/64\nPAULINE CHILDRESS, waitress, Fatwell Restaurant,\n1404 Main Street, Dallan, Texas, admitted al.e was on duty\n2\nat the Hatwall on the Sunday in November 1063, when the\nshooting of LCE HARVEY ODWALD VAS announced. She and she\nDL 44-1639\nwas busy, though, and did not 000 or hear anything which\nwent on around the restaurant. Shb cold she does not know\nShe said if he did come in, ho neither said nor did anything which\ncame to her attontion which would make the fact stick in her mind.\nGEORGE SENATOR, either by name or by sight, and contended\nshe would not \"know him If : BAW him.\" She and she did\nMrs. PREEMAN said the only persons on duty in the\nnot recognize his picture Whon soon in the nown subsequent\nrestaurant on the above occasion to her best recollection were\nto the shooting of OSVALD sa that of Anyone nho had ever\nMILDRED POLLARD, PAULINE CHILDRESS, and horself an waitresses,\naven before, and has absolutely no knowledge 47 to Mother\nwith Mr. JIMMIE\" GAMBULOS boing there, but just wandering around\nho WIF in the Estwell at any time on the Sunday of the\nand not taking any special part in the operations. She said he\nshooting, or any other time.\nhad had an operation which had to nome extent affected his mind,\nand although he camo to the restaurant in a Bort of supervisory\nAt this juncture, CHILDRESS said she had not seen\ncapacity on Sunday mornings and on other days, he was not capable,\nanything, had not heard anything, did not know anything about\nreally, of taking care of any business. Mrs. PREEMAN said MILDRED\nGEORGE SENATOR or JACK RUDY, and summarily terminated the\nPOLLARD *worked the counter* on the particular day here in\ninterview, with the statement the did not \"want to get in-\nquestion, and took care of the cash register. She worked the front\nvolved Lis anything.\" Effort to continue the interview was\nfruitless.\nstation, and PAULINE CHILDRESS worked the rear.\n** 6/10/64 of Dallas, Texas\nFile , DL 44-1639\nby Special Agent KENNETH C. HOWE/de\nDate dictated 6/12/64\n- - - consents ... - -\nThe - - - - \" - of the ... incord\nNo\nCOMMISSION Essimer No\n....\nFEDERAL BUADAU OF\n....\n******* ...... -\n1\nDate 6/12/64\nDate 0/.7/64\n1.\nWILFRED JAMES MARTIN, butter known as JIM MARTIN,\nAn effort was made to Interview This C. CAMBITOS, 3137\nattorney, formerly in the Davis Building, Dallas, but now\nhaving offices at Room 200, 706 Main Street, Dallas, was\nBryn Have Drive, at his place of bustress, the Eatwell Restaurant.\ninterviewed on the three occasions indicated below in order\nPrior reformation had been receiv. from relatives and employees of\nthat an full . resume as possible could to obtained o: his\nthe restau. ant to the effect Mr. CAMBULOS had had an operation on\ncontacts with GLORGE SENATOR and JACK PUDY on November 22,\nhis head wometime prior to the assessination of Prosident FENELDY,\n23, and 24, 1963. Mr. MARTIN appeared completely sincere in\nand this had affected hts alertness and thinking processes. Those\nhis desire to 1.0 helpful, cooporated fully, but admittedly\nindividuals sold he has continued to come to the restaurant, of this condition. Lut\nhis recollection of NOME things has discoed, and, with respect\nbecause\non 6/10/64 of Dallas, Texas\nFile , DL 44-1639\nby Special Agent KENNETH C, HOWE/ds\nDate distated 6/12/64\nyour This ******* forement \" - and \" contants - F#E *** immediations ... 1a ** - -- convincions ****** your of the ...... rai. \" .. the property of the FDI and Le I 10\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No 3023-Continued\nCOMMISSION Exumpt No. 3023-Continued\nFO.111 (May, 3-1-111\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nFO-11 - -----\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF If Commission Exhibit No. 3024\n1\nDate 6/12/64\nDate 6/.7/64\n1\nWILFRED JAMES MARTIN, better known as JIM MARTIN,\nAn effort was made to interview JAMES C. GAMBULOS, 3137\nattorney. formerly in the Davis Building, Dallas, but now\nBryn Mawe Drive, at his place of business, the Eatwell Restaurant.\nhaving offices at Room 200, 706 Main Street. Dallas, was\nPrior information had been receiv. 4 from relatives and employees of\ninterviewed on the three occasions indicated below in order\nthe restaurant to the effect Mr. CAMBULOS had had an operation on\nthat an full a reaume as possible could be obtained of his\nhis head sometime prior to the assessination of President KENNEDY,\ncontacts with GEORGE SERVICE and JACK RUBY on November 22,\nand this had affected his alortness and thinking processes. These\n23, and 24, 1963. Mr. MARTIN appeared completuly sincere in\nindividuals said he has continued to come to the restaurant, but\nhis desire to be helpful, cooperated fully, but admittedly\ntakes little, If any, part in the business because of this condition.\nhis recollection of some things has dismod, and, with respect\nto others, there to BOMO confusion in his mind 250 to just when\nThe short interview with Mr. CAMBULOS established he does\nthey occurred. Ho asked for the reported interviews no that\nnot appear alert, was extremely vague, and no information of value\nhe might have an opportunity to piece together his renombrance\npertinent to the matter at hand could be obtained.\nof his own activities during the partinent dates in collaboration\nwith his wife and daughters, who were involved in those. The\nfollowing constitutes the information tendered by Mr. MANTIN as\nthe boat he can offer considering he, himself, was \"stunned\" by\nthe of President KENNEDY. with A consequent\n\"blurring\" of the events of the few days following this\noccurrence.\nUp until the shooting of LEE HARVEY OSWALD on Sunday,\nNovember 24, 1963, MARTIN had not soon, or had any contact with\nJACK RUDY since several days. at least, prior to the\nnation of President KENNEDY. On November 24, 1963, he took\nGEORGE SENATOR to the Dallas Police Department as will be\nbrought out later horein. This was posetime during the early\nafternoon of November 24, 1963, and Mille at the Police De-\npartment he talked briefly with JACK RUBY over the Jail tele-\nphone. but did not have personal contact with him. He con-\nsiders the exact detail of that conversation an privileged,\nbut does feel free to state it consisted principally of his\ngiving advice to HUBY an to his rights and cautioning him not\nto make any statements or talk to anyone about the affair\nwithout clearing through him.\nMARTIN does not feel that any attornay-client re-\nlationship existed between him and GEORGE SENATOR, whom he has\nknown for perhaps the past two to three-years as a friend.\n6/11,12,\n6/10/64\nDallas,\nTexas\nDL 44-1639\nFile\n,\non 16/64\nDallas, Texas\non\net\nof\nFile f DL 44-1639\nby Special Agent KENNETH C. HOWE:Vm\nDate distated 6/12/64\nby Special Agent KENNETH C. HOWE/ds\nDate dictated 6/16/64\nThis contains meliber recommendatione -- of the Fai. \" - the property of the FAT ... - I 14\nThis - subside matther ** of the rai, It to the property of the Fat and is I to\n- ******) # and He Emissis *** - to ** - agency.\n- ******* \" - no - are - is ** additional ***** - *******\n567\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3023-Continued\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3024\n568\n2\n3\nDL 44-1639\nDL 44-1639\nSENATOR has visited at his home on frequent occasions in the\npast. He considers him an improvident-type individual who\nexpressed deep sorrow this event had happened. MARTIN does not\n\"has never been able to earn a living,\" but likable, accommo-\nrecall any discussionwhich encompassed a detailing of the exact\ndating, and not unpleasant to have around.\nfeelings of SENATOR and/or RUBY to this, or the possible\nactivities of either an a consequence of it or any preceding\nSENATOR in a good cook and on most of the occasions\nevents.\nwhen he came to the MARTIN home \" was for the purpose of pre-\nparing a moal for the MARTIN family. Ho prided himself on his\nwith the above fixed on Friday, November 22, 1963,\nability along this line, and delighted in doing this. He lived,\nMARTIN has no recollection 01 having soon or talked to SENATOR\nmore or less, to MARTIN's best knowledge, on the largess of his\nagain until around noon or shortly thereafter on November 24,\nfriends, and made himself accoptable through things such 34 the\n1963, the day of the OSWALD shooting, and can furntsh no infor-\nforegoing. He worked for a time for JACK RUDY at the Carousel\nmation 1963. relating to SENATOR's possible activities on November 23,\nClub, but that did not work out and RUBY then got him a con-\nnection selling post cards and other novelty items. This latter\nendeavor was being neglected by SENATOR. and, in general, he just\nOn November 24, 1963, he and Mrs. MARTIN had gone to\nnever seemed able to get shead.\nchurch and it was on their way home from church they got the\nfirst news of the shooting on their radio. When they got home\nMARTIN feels SENATOR was used by RUBY an a sort of \"Man\nhis daughter told him SENATOR had called, had left no number\nFriday.\" He would order him around and have him do menial\nfor a return call, but would call back.\npersonal things for him. MARTIN in of the opinion RUBY had\nSENATOR around principally for this reason, and, on the other\nInstead of calling back, SENATOR arrived shortly\nhand, SENATOR played his part willingly and without rementment\nthereafter in person at the house. He wis extremaly excited\nin return for the favors and \"support\" RUBY tendered him.\nand upset. His paramount concern wild \"What can be done about\nJACK?' He was not concerned for himself and said nothing to\nMARTIN, on first interview, could evoke no positive\nindicate he wanted, or had any reason to balieve he needed,\nrecollection of having soon or talked to SENATOR on either No-\nlegal counsel or help for himself. He said he had heard the\nVember 22 or 23, 1963. After discussion with his wife he then\nnews of the shooting While at the Eatwell Restaurant in down-\nrecalled SENATOR was at the MARTIN home on either the evening\ntown Dallas, had tried to call MARTIN. ind then had coola on out\nof Friday, November 22, 1963, or Saturday, November 23, 1963.\nto the house with the intention of waiting for him. lie wanted\nIn an effort to be more enlightening on this point, MARTIN\nto \"do something for JACK,\" and felt MARTIN could advise him as\nagain went over personal events with his wife and daughters, and\nRUBY. to what he could or should do, and might also be able to help\nalthough none could state with certainty, it was their joint\nconclusion, based on an association of events, that SENATOR was\nat the MARTIN home on the evening of Friday, November 22. 1963,\nMARTIN knew the police would want to interrogate\nthe day President KENNEDY was assassinated. Ha sat with them\nSENATOR, and his first advice W10 that SINATOR go to the police\nand watched television broadcasts concerned with the assuasi-\nand make himself available immediately. they, thereupon, want\nnation, and became quite emotional with respect to the accausi-\nalmost at once to the Dallas Police Department, in SENATOR's\nnation. At one point it seemed tears came to his eyes, and he\ntruck, MARTIN believes, but is not sure.\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3024-Continued\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3024-Continued\n5\nDL 44-1639\nDL 44-1639\nThe conference at the house was very brief, and no\nnaked him by the police and others, and what he had told them.\neffort was made to have a detailed discussion an to any\nHe did this in order to get come ideas AS to how best to proceed\nwith a defonse for RUDY, and, also, in order that he, himself,\npossible notives which might have prompted RUBY'# action.\nmight know about RUDY all that SENATOR know about him and his\nThere was no mention made at that time of ROBY's feelings\nabout the killing of President KENNEDY, his reaction to the\nactivities. There then enound . lengthy disportation by SENATOR\nfull-page advertisement which had appeared in the local news\nWherein he described Mist had gone on at the Police Department.\nIt was in the course of this MARTIN first learned from SENATOR\nover the name of BERNARD WEISSMAN nor, was there any reference\nat all made to the *Impeach Earl Warron* poster. MARTIN'S first\nabout RUBY's being incomesd over and his exptional reaction 10,\nand foremost thought at the morent was to get SENATOR to the\nthe full-page advertinument of BERNARD WEIDSMAN which had.\nappeared in A local paper and which was derogatory to President\npolice, and, toward this and, he told him, an they proceeded to\nNUMBER) and, to the *Inpeach Earl Warren\" poster and RUSY's\nthe Police Department. he should \"marahal his thoughts* with\nhaving photographed this poster. MARTIN has a vague recollection\nrespect to his Association with and knowledge of JACK FUBY.\nSTRATOR said to was WILL RUST when this picture Vall taken. HARTIN\nand wasched television broadcasts concerned with the 8053281-\nblad make himself available immediately. They, thersupon, 4.16 parten went\nnation, and became quite emotional with respect to the assas,1-\nalmost at once to the Dallas Police Department, in SIGNATOR'S\nnation. At one point it seemed tears came to his eyes, and he\ntruck, MARTIN believes, but in not sure.\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3024-Continued\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3024-Continued\n5\nDL 44-1639\nDL 44-1639\nThe conference at the house was very brief, and no\nasked him by the police and others, and what he had told them.\neffort was made to have A detailed discussion as to any\nHe did this in order to get some ideas an to how best to proceed\npossible motives which might have prompted RUBY's action.\nwith a defense for RUBY, and, also, in order that he, himself,\nThere was no mention made at that time of RUBY's feelings\nmight know about RUBY all that SENATOR know about him and his\nabout the killing of President KENNEDY, his reaction to the\nactivities. There then ensued a lengthy dissertation by SENATOR\nfull-page advertisement which had appeared in the local news\nwherein he described Mint had gone on at the Police Department.\nover the name of BERNARD WEIGSMAN, nor, was there any reference\nIt was in the course of this MARTIN first Inarned from SENATOR\nat all made to the \"Impeach Earl Watron\" poster. MARTIN'S first\nabout RUDY's being treasud over and him emotional reaction to,\nand foremost thought at the moment was to get SENATOR to the\nthe full-page advertisement of DERNARD WELSONAN which had\npolice, and, toward this end, he told him, as they proceeded to\nappeared in a local paper and Which was derogatory to President\nthe Police Department, he should \"marshal his thoughts* with\nKENNEDY, and, to the \"Inpeach Earl Warren* poster and RUBY's\nrespect to his association with and knowledge of JACK RUBY.\nhaving photographed this poster. MARTIN has a vague recollection\nSENATOR said he was with RUSY when this picture Van taken. MARTIN\nUpon arrival at the Dallas Police Department, around\ndoes not believe SENATOR would have had any opportunity to talk to\n1.00 P.M. to MARTIN's best recollection, SENATOR was *taken\nRUBY While at the Police Department during the preceding afternoon,\ninto custody\" by two police officers and hurried into the\nand SENATOR made no mention he had soon or talked to him.\nHomicide Squad rooms on the third floor. MARTIN feels this\naction by the police was abrupt and uncalled for considering\nSENATOR told of the poster incident in the course of\nSENATOR was making himself voluntarily available and attempting\nrecounting his experiences At the Police Department, and the\nto be helpful. His protests were to no avail, the officers\ninterrogation of him by police and other Authorities. MARTIN\ntelling him SENATOR would be back out in a short time. He did\npresumed it had been told by SENATOR to the police. Information\nnot again 800 SENATOR until around 5.00 or 6.00 P.M. Re had\nof & privileged nature lator available to MARTIN established the\ntried to get to SENATOR but on each occasion was put off and\nabove to be factual, and it 18 his belief that If it were not\ntold it would be just , little bit longer until he would be\ntold by SENATOR to his interrogators it was only through an over-\nable to see him. MARTIN Was considering starting action for a\nsight. MARTIN can discorn no conceivable benefit SENATOR could\nwrit of haboas corpus when SENATOR finally appeared, for he knew\nhave felt he would be realizing for either himself or RUBY by\nof no reason why the police should be holding him. At this\nwithholding this information, and he gavo no improssion he had.\npoint SIGNATOR seemed to be eminently pleased and elated with all\nthe attention he was getting, and the importance he appeared to\nBy the late eventing of November 24, 1963, the full\nhave gained.\nsignificance of what had happened commod to become more apparent\nto SENATOR and he approached a state Maore he was practically\nAfter SENATOR was released he gave permission to some\n\"overwhelmed with fear* for his own safety. Where at first he\nnews photographers to take pictures of the apartment where he\nhad felt \"important\" -- more no perhaps than he over had before\nand RUBY had lived, and, with MARTIN, he accompanied those men\nin his life -- he now considered that someone might attempt to'\nto the apartment. MARTIN and SENATOR then returned to the\nharm him because of What RUBY had done since he had been DO close\nMARTIS home.\nto RUBY. Because of this he did not go to his spartment the\nnight of November 24, 1963, but spent the night at the MARTIN\nAt the MARTIN home on the evening of November 24, 1963,\nMARTIN told SENATOR to detail to him What questions had been\n335\n710\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3024-Continued\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3024-Continued\n569\n570\nFORM (May, 1-8-14)\nEVERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIC\n1\nDate 6/15/64\n5AM GAMBULOS. manager and one of the family which\nowne and operates the Eatwell Restaurant at 1404 Main Street,\nDL 44-1639\nDallas, Texas, said he has known GEORGE SENATOR At a regular\ncustomer of the restaurant for a number of years. In the\nresidence. MARTIN felt this feeling on the part of SENATOR was\npast, SIGNATOR was on almost daily patron, but GANSULOS has\nridiculous, and he tried to \"kid him out of it,\" but it per-\nnot Been him for the past couple of months, and does not know\nsisted. MARTIN feels this feeling continued to haunt SENATOR\n\"what has happaned to him.\"\nand was one of the primary reasons he loft the Dallas ACOA after\nthe RUBY trial and went to live with relatives outside the\nCAMBULOS did not come to work on the day LEE HARVEY\nstate.\nOSWALD was whot at the Dallas Police Department until 2100 P.M.,\nand thus in not in n position to state whether GEORGE SENATOR\nwas in the restaurant on the merning of that date. His father,\nhours. JAMES GAMBULOS, would have been on duty during the morning\nGAMBULOS cannot state whether SENATOR was in the\nEatwell at any time while he was on duty during the afternoon\nand evening of Saturday, November 23, 1963, since there in\nnothing about this date to fix it in his mind. 114 1a certain\nhe did not BUG GENATOR in the Eatwell at any time while on\nduty during the atternoon and evening of November 24, 1963.\nCAMBULOS also know JACK RUBY, an an occasional patron\nof the Eatwoll, however, he cannot recall he know at the time\nof the shooting of OSWALD that RUBY and SENATOR were living\ntogether, although he was aware they knew each other.\nGAMBULOS said ho could not recall exactly which\nwaitrosses word on duty on the day shift of November 24, 1963,\nbut that ELSIE MATHEWS, cashier and bookkeeper, would be able\nto furnish this information.\nCAMBULOS said SENATOR never discussed his activities\nwith him, and never talked to him about his association with\nJACK RUBY. Do has no knowledge of any photographs taken by\nRUBY and/or SENATOR, and neither ovor displayed any photographs\nof any kind about the restaurant, to his knowledge. No convor-\nnation he ever had with aither of their indicated any interest\non thoir part in political affairs of any xinc.\non\n6/8/04\nat Dallar, Texas\nFile , DL 44-1639\nby Special Agent KENNETTI C. HOWE/J.\nDate distated 6/12/64\n-\n-\nExcesse\nNo\nContinued\n....... \"\n1\n- 4/14/14\nELATE \". MATHERS, 5000 Mindeley, Dallas, Taxas,\nCashier and citvell 1404 Main\nCHARLES 7.. 3104 Assistre, was Interview at the\nDallas, wis interviewed \" her place of Business. 87.0 gave\nInnwand Restaurant, 5012 Sharp Street, another earablishment overd and\nthe following Information\noperated by the GANSULOS factly, OVERTS and of the Cateril\nRestaurant, 1404 Main Street. Mr. CAMPLETE seld 1.0 works At both\nthe does not wirk on Jundays, and, consequently,\nescablishments since his father, JANES C. has been largely\nwas not on Quty at the CALMELL in Sunday, November 24, 1963.\nincapacitated by an operation on his head which took place prior to\nBhw will the knows GLORGE SENATOR 12 A customer : the\nNovember, 1963. He cald his father still, AS 4 figure-head with or\nrestrurant, but never doos sore than pass the time of day\nless, Banages the Satwell, and to there practically every day. but ha,\nwith Lim. and can furnish no information AS to his activities.\nhimself, makes LC a point to be there a road bit of the\nshe does not know Wiether he was in the Estwell on the day\nof the\nbefore REWARD NAM what \"\non part in political Affairs or any Kind.\non 6/8/54\nof Dallas, Texas\nFile , DL 44-1639\nby Special Agent KENNETH C. HOWE/de\nDate dictated 6/12/64\nThe ENGLISH - - - the Fai. # - the - of the Fat ... - Invoice to\n- ******* --- - - --- .. - Fubjivied - -\nCommission EXPIRIT No 3024-Continued\nCOMMISSION Exampt No. 3921- Continued\nFRERAL BUREAUOR\n- -\nFEDERAL BUREAU or INVESTIGATION\n1\nDate 6/15/64\n1\nDate 6/16/64\nELSIE E. MATHEWS, 5003 Lindaley, Dallas, Texas,\nCashier and Brokkeeper, Pitwell Restrurant, 1404 Main Street,\nCHARLES R. CAMBULOS, 3104 Amherst, was interviewed at the\nDallas, was interviewed At her place of business. She gave\nInnwood Restaurant, 5012 Sharp Street, another establishment owned and\nthe following information\noperated by the CAMBULOS family, GWEETS and operators of the Eatwell\nRestaurant, 1404 Main Street. Mr. CAMBULOS and he works at both\nShe does not work on Sundays, and, consequently,\nestablishments since his father, JAMES C. CAMBULOS, has been largely\nwas not on duty At the Hatwell on Sunday, November 24, 1963.\nincapacitated by an operation on his hand which took place prior to\nShe eald she knows GEORGE SENATOR AS = customer of the\nNovember, 1963. He said his father still, as n figure-head nore or\nrestaurant, but never doos more than pass the time of day\nless, manages the Eatwell, and 1a there practically every day. but he,\nwith him, and can furnish no information as to his activities.\nhimself, makes it c point to be there a good bit of the time because\nShe does not know Mether he was in the Eatwell on the day\nof the mentioned situation.\nbefore OSWALD WAS shot (November 23, 1963), or on the day of\nthe shooting (November 24, 1963).\nIn three different sessions, and with the assistance of his\nwife, LILLIAN CAMBULOS, in recalling related Incidents to refresh his\nMrs. MATHEWS furnished the following from her\nmemory, Mr. CAMBULOS gave the following information:\nrecords as the waitresses who wore on duty at the Eatwell on\nNovember 24, 1963,\nHe had gone to the lake with his children on Sunday,\nNovember 24, 1963, thus, was not At the Entwell Restaurant on that\nMILDRED POLLARD\ndate, the day LEE HARVEY OSWALD was shot at the Dallas Pulice Department,\nGLORIA FREEMAN\nand has no firsthand information as to whather GEORGE SEMATOR was in\nPAULINE CHILDRESS\nthe place on that date. the has known SENATOR as 0 frequent patron of\nthe Eatwell for a number of years, and knew he was a friend of JACK RULY\nalthough not aware these two were living together until sometime after\nthe OSWALD shooting. He believes he was at the Eatwall on Saturday,\nNovember 23, 1963, but, since he has seen SENATOR in the restaurant 80\nfrequently in the past he cannot state whether he came in on this\nparticular date. He explained if he did there was certainly nothing\nsaid and nothing occurred which would fix this fact In his mind. He\nsimilarly has no specific recollection AS to whether be saw SENATOR in\nthe restaurant on the day of the assossimation of President KENNEDY, for\nthe same reasons as just stated.\nCAMBULOS did work at the Entwellall day on Monday, November 25,\n1963, the Innwood Restaurant being closed on that date. He does\nremember that SENATOR came into the Eatwell that day, and he believes\nthis was sometime in the morning. He sat at the counter and recounted\n\"his troubles.\" He said he had been having trouble with his cruck,\nhe had not been able to work, he was without funds, and was having a\ngenerally hard time. He attempted to borrow #ONG money but was not\non 6/8/64\nat Dallas, Texas\nFile , DL 44-1639\n6/9-10-11/64\non\nat\nDallas, Texas\nFile ! DL 44-1639\nby Special Agent KIZINSTA C. ECWE/ds\nDate distated 6/12/64\nby Special Agent KENNETH C. HOWK:Ve\nDate dictated 6/15/64\nThis document ******* - commentations ** of The Fai. \" is the property of the rai and - immed is\n- ******) # - its *** ⑉ 10 be distributed swinlde your .......\nThis document renommendations ner - of the Fal. is La the property of the Fat ... is leased 10\n- ****** \" IN - genients 420 *** 18 ** distributed soleble - *******\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3024-Continued\n571\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3024-Continued\n572\n2\nDL 44-1639\n3\nobliged in this regard.\nDL 44-1639\nSENATOR was ordinarily a quiet and rather reserved type\nindividual, but on the above occasion he was dishoveled in appearance\nand looked \"As though he had been up all night.\" So far as hts con-\nDavis Building, como in and talk to SENATOR, and he believes it was\nvarsation with GAMBULOS was concerned, he did not dwall too much on\nalso on this same day he BOW \" woman talking to SENATOR in the\nthe shooting of OSWALD by RUBY, but merely made a few general statements\nrestaurant who was later identified to him as EVA GRANT. RUBY's nister,\nto the effect RUSY was the emotional type, inclined to do things on the\nalthough of this he is not sure; it could have been at n later date.\nspur of the coment, etc. He said nothing which would indicate he had\nWhether these meetings vere by design or chance, GAMBULOS cannot say,\nany knowledge'or premonition RUBY might do such a thing and made no\nAll these people, with the exception of EVA GRANT, had been regular\neffort to guesa why RUBY had committed this act and this matter was\ncustomers of the restaurant for quite 5000 time in the past, and all,\nnot-discursed. He seened concerned more with his own problems, and,\nagain with the exception of EVA GRANT, were well known by aight and\nin addition, gave evidence of being \"an extremely frightened man.\" He\nname to CAMBULOS. He has no way of knowledge what any of the conver-\nrecarked to GAMBULOS, \"This place has gone crazy.\" weanting Dallas, and\nsations between these parties might have been.\nexpressed fear, even about going out to the spartment where he and\nRUBY lived to get his personal effects. He said he was fearful someone\nGAMBULOS cannot be unqualifiedly cortain the above-mentioned\nwould try to shoot him, and CAMBULOS inferred from this he meant the\nmeetings between SENATOR and MARTIN, and SENATOR and BARCLAY, actually\ngeneral air of hysteria which he felt existed at the time in Dallas\ntook place on this particular Monday, although he feels they did. He\nmight lead someone to do his harm because he was 80 close to RUBY. He\nexplains this by pointing out that all these parties knew each other;\nMas not specific in this connection, did not make any effort to cnlarge\nIt was not unusual for them to talk some with each other when they\nupon it, and CAMBULOS, being busy taking care of the cash register and\nhappened to be in the Eatwell at the time for a cup 02 coffee, as\nother business, had no opportunity to pursue the subject.\nbe had seen then doing on occasions in the past; and It admittedly\nis possible he 16 confused on this point after the lapse of 00\nAt no point in the course of the above or at any other time\nlengthy a period of time.\nto CAMBULOS did SENATOR make any mention of what either be or RUBY\nthought about the assassination of President KENNEDY, or what their\nCAMBULOS said he had known JACK RUBY for a number of years\nreaction to this had been. He did not say anything about he and/or\nas an occasional patron of the Eatwell, but the last time he naw him\nRUBY taking any pictures, and he did not show any to CAMBULOS. He\nwas several days, at least, prior to the assassination.\nseemed \" thoroughly distraught individual, worried over what Wes now\ngoing to happen to him, and discouraged over what had occurred.\nShortly, SENATOR moved from the counter over to a nearby\nbooth and asked for and was given permission to use the \"free\"\ntelephone. CAMBULOS handed this over to him from behind the cash\nregister counter. SENATOR then proceeded to make several telephone\ncalls but GAMBULOS does not know whom he called, and overheard none\nof SENATOR'S conversations. CAMBULOS has BORD recollection of having\nseen one MINE BARCLAY, an attorney from the Davis Building across the\nstreet, COLUM into the Eatwall, and talk some with SENATOR. He also.\nhry the # 8153 recollection he saw JIM MARTIN, another attorney from the\nCOMMISSION Eximut No. 3024-Continued\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3024-Continued\nOffice of the Misrurg General\nWashington, 0.0\n0-64-vai\nAugust \", 1964\nHinorable Bubert F. Kennedy\nAttorney Guaral of the United States\nDepartment or Justice\nMonorable Harl Warren\nMachington, D. C.\n20530\nChief Justice of the United States\nToo Suprese Court\nDoor Ceneral:\nWashington, D. C. 26543\nThroughout the course of the Investigation contracted by this\nDear Mr. Chief Justice:\nConstantin, Department or Justice bys been must beligit In Conception\nConduction's impiry,\n11,\n********\nUNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE\nPRESIDENT'S Commission\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nON THE\nASSASSINATION OF PASSIORNT KNOWNOT\nWASHINGTON, R.C *****\nMargland Am N.E.\nEASL WARREN\n-\nWashington, DC. 20003\nSeptember 11, 1964\nREHARD\nTelephone\n**** WOTHAN CLAIMS\nOvers Denad\nHATE NEW\nBY COURIER SERVICE\nCERALD PORD\nJOHN SECTION\nALLEN DOLLARS\nMEMORANDUM\nNonorable J. Lee Rankin\nGeneral Counsel\nSeptember 22, 1964\nThe President's Commission\nTO:\n200 Waryland Avenue, Northeast\nMr. J. Lee Runkin\nWashington, D. C.\nGeneral Counsel\nFROM:\nDear Ur. Rankin:\nDurt W. Oriffin\nRE:\nReference is made to your letter of September 7,\nTelephone interview with George Senstor.\n1964, requesting that the files of the FDI be examined with\nKaron Bennett Carlin, bruce Ray Carlin, Harry N. Olson and\nrespect to Lva Grant, Ralph Paul, George Senator, Breck Wall,\n1964, I talked by telephone with Mr. George Censtor at the\nAt approximately 10:00 6.m. Tuesday, September 22,\nKay Helen Coleman (Mra. Harry N. Otsen) for any information\nthorein indicating that these persons were possible members\nBristol Hotel in New York City,\nof the Communist Party or engaged in other subversive activities.\nIn response to questions about his own political\nBy letter dated June 1, 1964, the President's\nactivities and those of Juck Ruby, Mr. Senator stated that\nCompission previously requested a similar check of our files\nhe (Senator) had never campaigned for any political campaign,\nwith respect to Ralph Paul, George Senator and Breck Wall\nhad never belonged to any political organization and had\nand you were advised by my letter of June 15, 1904, that\nengaged voting. in no political activities Wistscover other than\nthe files of this Cureau do not contain any information of\na subversive nature or otherwise concerning these individuals\nother than information which has been furnished to the\nSenstor wloo said that to his knowledge Jack Huby\nPresident's Commission in connection with the investigation\nhad never compaigned for any person or engaged in any other\npolitical activities.\nSinitor Neva campaigned potitically\nCE 3027 But Griffin menic\nregarding Jack L. Ruby.\nbruce Ray Carlin, Marry N. Olsen and Kay Helen Coleman, a\nWith respect to Eva Grant, Karen Bennett Carlin,\ncheck of the files of this Bureau does not reveal any\ninformation identifiable with these persons which would\nindicate they have ever been members of the Communist Party\nor engaged in other aubversive activities.\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3027\nSincerely yours,\nJ. 2fornie\nCommission EXHIBIT No 3024\nFlorida -\nDate\n11/20/63\n******* ****** INSSATICATION\nMAROLD GORDON ALDERMAN 6232 Delord Street, Tulane\nUniversity Graduate Student, advised that in the past he has\nFebruary 12, 1964\nparticipated in Fair Play for Cuba activities in Now York\nDY COURIER SERVICE\nCity, Washington, D. C., and Seattle, Washington. Ho Hald\nhe has nover boon A mumber of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee\nout that during the approximate Lime of the Day of Pign\nInvanion he picked up literature from the Fair Play for\nCobs Consittee Office in Now York City, and a impol button\nwith the words \"Hands orf Cuba.\" Also, at the approximate\ntime he participated in a picket 11ne sponsored by the Fair\nHonorable J. Lee Mankir\nPINY for Sale Case to the Area of of Contral Intelli-\nby Special Agent\nJOHN\nPLANNIA\nJust\n40.2\n89-43\ncan\nDate dictated\nThis\n-\n-\n-\n---\nbelow\n567\n11/27/63\n-\n:\n-\nthe\n*****\n!\n-\nof\n-\n.......\nFai\n-\n-\nto\n802\nCommission Extent No 3013\nCOMMISSION Expirer No. 3013-Continued\nDL 44-1639 and 09-43\nJJFinam\n10\nThe Villa-Fontana\n1315 Skiles\nA popular hangout of the female members of the \"gay\" set.\nThe Mercy Mary\nDescribed by PATTERSON as a new coffee house located at\nthe corner of Murray and Canton Streets, across the street\nCommission Excibit No 3014\nfrom the Murray Cotton Gin. This coffee house has & one-way\nmirror in the door.\nUNITED STATES DEPARTMENT VII OF JUSTICE -\nHoliday Bar\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\n1212 A Main Street\nin Hegaly, Befor be\nHangout of the rougher element.\nFile Da\nMinmi, Florida\nThe Century Room\nJune 29, 1964\nLamar and Lanco Streets\nPATTERSON describes this as one of the newer joints,\nRE: JACK L. HUBY:\nLEE HARVEY OSWAID - VICTIM (Deaessed)\nGEORGE SENATOR\nMrs. Shirley Wexler, 1419 Country Club Prado,\nCoral Cables, Florida, advised on June 29, 1904, that she\nhad previously been married to George Senatory that during\ntheir marital elationship George Senator had at no time\ndemonstrated any homosexual proclivities nor did nhe\npossess any information which would Indicate that George\nSenator is or has been a homonexual.\nMrs. Wexler also atated that during her marriage\nto Senator, Senator to her knowledge bird not engaged\nin any communist activities and did not have it communist\nbackground. Mrs. Wexler stated that the possessed no\ninform tion concerning Senator's activities airms the\ntermination or their marriage.\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3014\nSenator neither Communist for homosocical\nShirley Wexler (ex wife)\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3013-Continued\n549\n550\nCorrission Exhibit No. 3015\nroom in 61410\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nro. (Rev. ⑉\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nDate 6/11/64\n1\nDate 6/11/64\n1\nMr. H. H. ANDERSON, Managing Director for the Adolphus\nCHRIS ELSON, owner and operator of the Kings Club and\nHotel, Dallas, advised that on November 22, 1963, shortly after the\nthe Surgundy Room, Adolphus notal, advised the Burgundy Room\nAssassination of President KENNEDY he telephonically contacted\nlocated on the lobby floor and the Kings Club located on the\nBRECK WALL and JOE PETERSON who were residing in the hotel and\nsixth floor of the Adolphus Notel are owned and operated by him.\ntold them the Century Room would be closed on Friday and Saturday\nNaither of the clubs opens until noon, ELSON advised that\nnights. JOE PETERSON and BRECK WALL were producers and starred in\nimmediately after the assassination of President ADDRESS on\nthe show \"Bottoms Up\" and had a contract with the hotel for shows\nNovember 22, 1963, he contacted the manager of the Adolphus Notel\nfrom April 20, 1963, to August 3, 1963, and from September 28, 1963,\nand found that the Century Room would not open on November 22 and 23,\nto January 4, 1964. Mr. ANDERSON advised the Century Room 10 never\n1963, and he Immediately contacted all of his employees who work\nopen on Sunday nights.\nin the Burgundy Room and Kings Club and advised then that noither\nwould be orened until Monday, November 25, 1963. ELSON advised\nMr. ANDERSON advised he did not have any contact with\nthat on November 28, 1963, GEORGE SERATOR contacted him personally\nJACK RUBY, RALPH PAUL, CEORGE SENATOR, or EVA GRANT from November 22\nat the Kings Club and stated he had a complaint to taske egainst\nto November 24, 1963.\nthe plano player in the Burgundy Room. On the evening 01\nNovember 28, 1963, the pinno player allogedly made a reantk about\nJACK RUBY and ELSON contacted all employees and IC was determined\nthat none of the employees had seen JACK RUBY, RALPH PAUL, CEORGE\nSENATOR, or EVA GRANT from November 22 to Rovember 28, 1963. The\nemployees of the Burgundy Room advised they were reading the\nheadlines of a newspaper regarding JACK RUBY and this was the basis\nfor the complaint by GEORGE SENATOR.\nMike Briclay C Nov. 24 1963\non 6/10/64 at Dallas, Texas\nFile DL 44-1639\n6/10/64\nDallas, Texas\nFBI myeotigation 12 Senator, William Downey k\non\nat\nFile , DL 44-1639\n\" Special Agent WILL MAYDEN CRIFFINITY\nDate dictured 6/11/64\nby Special Agent\nWILL\nHAYDEN\nCRIFFINIVE\n$\nDate\ndictated\n6/11/64\nDate\nWILMAN =. - .424 Dillin, TEXAS\n=\nsave 44 that 09 the day 00 20 - -\n-- Lick in :.::: 1:00 THE the in cun-\nDL 4.-1639\nAcction with his work. OA that - 22, 1963.\n1.2 parked 1.15 Automobile DATE 1.4 MARK of the Post\nFron thirty to forty-five sinutes after SIGNATOR'S\nOffice to transact 50% business : a 20.00 the Prodi-\ncall, DOWNY heard a radio announcement that OSWALD had boon\ndential parada route wis going to -- will the Toat office,\nthat by JACK RUDY, and. knowing that SENATOR and RUSY lived\nto tax corner 0: and 0.10 Streets, About\ntogo.hor. then attempted to reach SEINTOR by telephone\n- 6/10/64 of Dallas, Texas\nFile , DL 44-1639\n6/10/64\nDallas, Texas\non\n:\nDL 44-1639\nFile ,\nby Special Agent WILL HAYDEN CRIFFIN:vm\nDate dictated 6/11/64\nby Special Agent WILL HAYDEN CRISFIN:vm\nSit\nDate distated 6/11/64\nThis ...... containe - resommonzations - consivalure of the FOI. is se the property of the Fai - - Issued to\n\" --- the ... to **********\nNo - \" - - mailber recommenations - - being of the FAL \" to the property of the Fat PM# to leased *\nTHE *** ⑉ 18 ** - THE *******\nCommission Eximas No 9015\nFORM (PLAT 1000\nEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\n1\nDate\n6/15/64\nWILLIAM =. DOWNEY, 1424 Plewsen, Dallas, TEXTS,\n2\nadviced that on the day of President\n:- arrived back in Dallas from % - = ==42 in con-\nDL 4,-1639\nacction with his work. on that morning, Povember 22, 1963,\nhe parked his Automobile near the Dentral Annex of the Post\nFrom thirty to forty-fivo minutos after SIGNATOR's\nOffice to transact 4030 business C the Proni-\ncall, DOWNEY heard a rodio announcement that OSWALD had been\ndential parada route was going to 1 56.45 the Foot Office,\nshot by JACK RUBY, and, knowing that BENATOR and RUBY lived\nCONNEY went to the corner of Reaston and Main Streets, about\ntogether, DOWNEY then attempted to reach SENATOR by telephone\none block south of the Toxas School Book Depository Building,\nat the residence of attorney JIM MARTIN, Where SHINATOR had\nwhore he watched the Presidential car drive by. Shortly after\npentioned he had boon staying.\nthe car had passed the corner on Which he stood, DOWNEY hoard\none or more explosions. which he thought ware firecrackors.\nMrs. MARTIN told DOWNEY that SENMOR and JIM MARTIN\nSuddenly the crowd started surging in the direction of the\nhad left the house to go to the Police Department, to volunteer\nSchool Depository, and he saw the Presidential automobile\nto answer any questions SENATOR might bo able to andwar about\ndrive away from the cornor of Houston and Elm Streets in A\nRUBY, DOWNEY said he then called a mutual friend of his and\nhurry, at about the time he hoard someone in the crowd say\nSENATOR'S MIKE BARCLAY, on attorney. BARCLAY told him that\nthe President had been shot. no atayed in the area for about\nSENATOR had nothing to worry about if he ware not involved in\nan hour, and then loft. DOWNEY said no did not 500 GEORGE\nthe chooting, had done the right thing by going to the police,\nSENATOR that day.\nand thore was nothing either BARCLAY or DOWNEY could do for\nSENATOR at that point.\nOn Saturday, November 23, 1963, DOWNEY was at home\nall day. going out only in the evening for a brief period to\nDOWNEY said he stayed homo all day November 24, 1963,\ntake his wifo, from whom he is now divorced, to dinner. Ho\nand watched telovision. Somotime around 6:00 or 7:00 P.M., he\nadvisor he did not SCG SENATOR that day.\nreceived at telephone call from GEORGE SENATOR soking DOWNEY to\nmost SENATOR and MIKE BARCLAY at Doe's Loungo, a bar located\nOn Sunday morning. November 24, 1963, GEORGE SENATOR\nat 3220 North Pitzhugh, Dallus. DOMNEY cald ho assumed SENATOR\ncalled DONNEY by phone at his home. About thirty to forty-five\nsuggested this place because both of them had been there bufore\nninutes before the shooting of OBWARD by JACK RUSY. SENATOR\nand were fumiliar with the place. DOVENTY also recalled that the\nsaid ho WSB calling from his apartment, that he was alone\nBurgundy ROOM of the Rotel Adolphus, Where no and SENATOR fro-\nthere, and no taked if he could como to DOWNEY'S house and\nquently DOW each other, was closed down after the assossination\ncook brockfast for DOWNEY and h16 wifo. DOWNEY said that he\nof the President, from Friday through Sunday, not re-opening\nand his wife had just Arison and no asked SENATOR not to come.\nuntil Monday ovening, November 25, 1963.\nSENATOR either told him then that no would go for breakfast at\nthe Eatwoll Caro or the Wiffls shop at Bryan and Fitzhugh\nAround 7.00 P.M. on November 24, 1963, in response to\nStreets in Dallas, or cloo he told him later that day that he\nSENATOR'S telephone call, DOWNEY wont to Doo's Lounge, Where he\nhad gone to one of those places for breakfast.\nnot SENATOR and MIKE BARCLAY. SUNATOR was completely sobor at\nthe time, and apparontly wanted to got together with him moroly\nto talk about the interrogation ho had undergone that day at\npolico hondquarters. Ho montioned nome of the questions no had\nboon asked and told of his answers. no was naturally concerned\nabout JACK RUBY, his roommate, and coomed completely surprised\nan 6/11/64 at Dallas, Texts\nFile , DL 44-1639\nat RUDY's actions.\nby Special Agent W. JAMES NOOD/ds\nDate dictated 6/12/64\nThis decement contains - recommendations - conclusions of the FDL \" is the property of the FAI ... - Issued -\n193\n- ****** # *** 118 *** not 18 ** discributed aviable Twel agency,\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3015-Continued\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3015-Continued\n552\nFD-111 (Rev. 1441\nEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGAT.\n1\nDate 0/15/64\n2\nMALCOLM JAMES BARCIAY, commonly known an MIKE\nDL 44-1639\nBARCLAY, Davis Building, 1309 Main Streac, Dallas, Texas,\nadvised that on November 22, 1963, he had been at-tho\nThey stayed at Dec's Loung perhaps forty-five minutes,\nCounty Court House prior to the time the Late Prodident\nhaving about one drink during this period, after which DOWNEY\nKENNSDY was due to parade in that vicinity, that he had\ndrova SENATOR to downtown Dallas, Where the latter got into his\nlaft the Court House to watch the procession, and did watch\nVolkswagen truck, presumably to drive home.\nthe Presidential procossion pass the corner of Main and\nHouston Streets, about one block south o: the Texas School\nDOWNEY rocalls that SENATOR seemed very reluctant to\nBook Depository, sceno of the Assassination. Shortly after\nreturn to the apartment ho and RULY shared, fearing nome action\nthe car boaring the Prosident passed the place where BARCLAY\nmight be taken against him by people angured at the shooting of\nwas standing, BARCLAY turned to re-entor the Court House, at\nOSWALD by JACK RUSY. No said that sometime during the following\nwhich time ho heard one or noro loud reports Watch he identi-\nweek, exact days not recalled, SENATOR stayed overnight at\nfied in his own mind ao riflo choto. No turned and the crowd\nDONNEY's apartment because of his reluctance to stay at his own\naccured to be surging toward the Depository area. Do did not\nplace.\n500 the Prosidential automobile at that time, and it\napparantly loft the area immodiately. Eo stayed in that aroa\nDOWNEY said he has known GEORGE SENATOR for four or\nfor about one hour. then returned to his office. He doos not\nfive years and originally got acquainted with him through the\nremember having seen GEORGE SENATOR or JACK RUBY on NO-\nVember 22, 1963.\nfact that both were then engaged in the sale of women's sports\nwear.\nBARCLAY said ho had known GEORGE SENATOR for about\nDOWNEY said he was acquainted with JACK RUBY, but had\none and ond-half years, and believes he not SENATOR through\nnot seen him for a Long time before the Assassination, and did\nattorney JIM MARTIN, a long-time friend and business associate.\nnot 000 him in the period following the assassination.\nNo never know just Mist SENATOR did for a living, but doos re-\nmember that at one time he had a Volkawagen truck and was doing\nno said GEORGE SENATOR had never discussed with him\nsome kind of solling from this truck. BARCLAY said he used to\nthe incident concorning RUBY's having taken SENATOR at night\nfrequently visit the Burgandy Room at the Adolphus Cotal after\nto look at an \"Impeach Earl Warren\" sign.\nwork, for a beer or two, porhaps two or throe times a wook,\nand frequently paw GEORGE SENATOR at that place.\nNo said he doos not know RALPH PAUL, may have met him\nat some time, but has no recollection of having done no.\nBARCLAY DAID he had known JACK RUBY for many years\nand believes that either he or GEORGE SENATOR had mentioned\nDOWNEY said he does not know BRECK WALL or JOE\nat one time that they were roommates.\nPETERSON. and never know LEE HARVEY OSWALD.\nBARCLAY oaid ho has no recollection Whatsoever of\nhaving soon GEORGE SENATOR on Saturday, November 23, 1963.\nBARCLAY said he remembers purposely avoiding going to City Hall\nor the Court House on that date because of the confusion he\non\n6/11/64\n:\nDallas,\nTexas\nFile , DL 44-1639\nby Special Agent W. JAMES WOOD/de\nDate distated 6/11/64\n-\n:\nNo\nContinued\n8\n,\nDL (4-16)2\nDL 4.-1609\nthought would probably oxist there.\nresult of his acquaintance with RUBY. BARCLAY got the improssion\non Sunday sorning. November 24, 1963, his mother called\nthat EENATOR WAD a man to Whom nothing important had over\nhis and told his LAST HARVEY ORNARD and boon shot. He turned on\nhappened, 4a man who had never been hold in particularly high\nby anyone. SENATOR talked At this time shout how nice\nMis ablovision out and LOW a employ of the checting. 110 ru-\nthat he stayed at 1,000 virtually all that day. He said\neveryone had been to him during the day. and of the questions\nChich\nhad\nbusin\nAnked\nlic BILL DONNEY having colled his by telephone that\nhaving BOOK GEORGE SENATOR on Saturday, November 23, 1963.\nBARCLAY said he remombers purposely avoiding going to City Hall\nor the Court House on that date because of the confusion he\non 6/11/64 of Dallan, Texas\nFile / DL 44-1639\nby Special Agent W. JAMES WOOD/ds\nDate distated 6/11/64\nThis - **** noither recommendations consivelons of the rai. \" . the property of the Fat ... .. issued 18\n- 110 contents --- -\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3015-Continued\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3015-Continued\n2\n3\nDL 4-1639\nDL 4.-1639\nthought would probably exist thore.\nresult of his acquaintance with RUDY. BARCLAY got the impression\nthat SENATOR W.O a man to Whom nothing important had ovor\nOn Sunday morning, November 24, 1963, his mother called\nhappened, a man who had never been hold in particularly high\nhim and told him LEE HARVEY OSWALD had boon shot. Ho turned on\noctoon by anyone. SENATOR talked at this time about how nice\nhis television sot and saw a replay of the shooting. Ho ro-\neveryone had been to him during the day, and of the questions\nLenDers that ho stayed at home virtually all that day. 110 said\nwhich had been asked him by the police and acquaintances.\nhe remembers BILL DONNEY having called him by telephone that\nday, worrying about GEORGE SENATOR, WIOD DOWNEY had helped out\nSometime during his conversation with SENATOR, although\nfrom time to time when SIGNATOR was *down on his luck.\" It 10\nhe cannot remember Whother it was on this or COMO other occusion,\nBARCLAY'S recollection that ho told DOWNEY not to worry, that\nSENATOR told BARCLAY that he and JACK RUSY ware concorned about a\nthere was no roason to believe SENATOR was involved in either\nfull-page advortisement in the \"Dallas Norning Now which they\nthe assassination of the President or the shooting of LEE HARVEY\nconsidered defamatory to Provident kesnedy. BARCLAY 10 cortain\nOSWALD.\nthat SENATOR never montioned having gond with BUBY to look at an\n\"Impoach Earl Warren\" cign. because ho remembers buing surprised\nTO the best of BARCLAY's current recollection, some-\nat this When he road about it in the nowspapers nomatime after\ntime in the late afternoon or early evening of Sunday, NO-\nthe assassination and the killing of OSWALD.\nVember 24, 1963, he loft home and wont dountown, to oither his\noffice or to the Court House. It 10 his furthor recollection\nIt 10 BARCLAY's recollection that they wore at Doo's\nthat after he transacted Whatover business ho had to transact,\nonly a chort time, after which ho, BARCLAY, wont on home, and\nwhich may have involved a burglar then confined to jail, whom\nBILL DOWNEY was to drive SENATOR back downtown to got his\nhe was defending, ho wont to the Eatwall Cafe for a cup of\nVolkawagon.\ncoffee. Thoro, he saw GEORGE SENATOR.\nBARCLAY said he doos not remember having soon JACK\nRo told SENATOR that his friend, BILL DOWNEY, had\nRUBY during the period November 22 through 24, 1963. 110 said\nboon calling inquiring about him, and was worried about him.\nthat on the night of November 23, 1963, ha, BARCLAY, vas at\nDuring the course of his convorsation ho got the fooling,\nthe Court House in Dallas to 000 a burglar ho Vas defending,\nprobably expressed by SENATOR, that the latter was afraid to\nand it in entirely possible he saw RUBY that night, but he has\nreturn to the apartment ho shared with RUBY, bacause no was\nno specific recollection of having done 50.\nafraid como action right be taken against him by persons angered\nat the OSWALD shooting by RUBY. # bolloves that CHORGE SENATOR\nBARCLAY said he doos not know RALPH PAUL but had heard\nhad called BILL DOWNY from the Entwall Cofe, and the throo of\nin that past that ho was JACK RUDY's \"angol.\" BARCIAY said he\nthem arranged to most at Doo's Lounge, 3220 North Fitzhugh,\nnever know BRECK WALL or JOE PETERSON.\nDallas. No and SENATOR processed LO Bowle in BARCLAY's auto-\nnobile, Where they did most DOWNEY. Phey talked generally\nBARCLAY said he used to share a law office with JIM\nabout the assassination and 02 RUST'S shooting of OSWALD. He\nMARTIN and they have boon clona friends for years. Ho naid he\nremembers that SIMATOR Was sobor, and that he seemed somewhat\n16 ocr :ain ho did not must at the Satwall Cate in Dallas with\npleased at the spotlight which had been focused on him Ad A\nGEORGE SIGNATOR, JIM MARTIN and EVA GRANT during the few days\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3015-Continued\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 3015-Continued\nFD-111 (Rev. 1-11-48)\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nDate 1-23-04\n4\n1\nDL J4-1639\nCLIFF ROBERTS, Investigator, Oklahoma State Duresu of\nfollowing the shooting of OSWALD. Be recalled that some months\nInvestigation, 410 M. Kelnut, furnished the following in-\nformation:\nago, IIVA GRANT, Whom he had not not before, called his office\nand told him she was sending A friend who had been arrosted for\nIn the Spring of 1003, ROBERTS was working an M private\nautomobile theft, to noo BARCLAY. This friend thereafter called\ninvestigator 10 partnership with HIM. KERSTER, A former\nat BARCLAY's office, BARCLAY offored to represent him if he\nmember of the Oklahoma City Police Department. ROBERTS and\ncould raise the fou, but this individual nover returned.\nEHESTER had done nome Insurance york for the 1AY firm of\nShortly thereafter, EVA GRANT called BARCLAY on the tolephone\nCLADE J. WATTS, who 111 one of the Attorneys representing\nand gave him a severe tongue-lashing because he had not repre-\nformer Coneral ESTIN WALKER, in Dallas, Texas.\nsented her friend for nothing.\nA short time after the attempted shooting of General\nWALKER in the Spring of 1003; WATES hired RODERTS and KEESTER\nFor that reason, BARCLAY foels certain he would\nto go to Dallas to inventigate the shooting incident. BILL\nremember any mooting he might nave had which would have in-\nDCTV, A former employee of General WALKER, bad been developed\ncluded EVA GRANT. He said that during the partinunt period,\nas a suspect in this shooting and had been questioned by the\nMARTIN had an office in the same building as BARCLAY, and that\nDallar Police Department. DUYY had boon alleged to have\nthey had coffee togother at the Eatwoll almost every morning.\nremarked to none one that he With the person who shot WALKER.\nHo also said that GEORGE SENATOR Was in MARTIN's office almost\nGeneral WALNER was convinced that DUYY Vas Fuilty of the shoot-\nevery day during this time, and it is entirely possible the\n1ng and instructed RODISTS and KEESTER to attempt to prove\nDUFF's guilt. HOMELTS misd KIRSTER were convinced that DUTY\nthree of them drank coffee together at the Batwoll on No-\nbad nothing to do with the abooting but to entisfy WALKER they\nverbor 25, 1963. but he has no specific recollection of this\nworked on the case for A period of about nine days.\nparticular incident. He fools cortain that under the circum-\nstances. he did discuss the RUBY case with both MARTIN and\nROBERTS and MENSTER made contact with DUYY in an under-\nSENATOR during this time. However, he said that by this time,\ncover capacity and indicated to him they vero working on .\nnome ton attorneys had boon mentioned publicly as prospoctive\nplan to shoot WALEER. Whey offered DUTY $5,000.00, to\nattorneys for JACK RUDY, that ho had no interest Whatsoever in\nparticipate to this shooting and DUTY Indicated he was willing\nto participate. During the discussions with DUYY relative to\ngetting involved in something that was becoming such a \"hasele,\"\nthis plan DUSE never made any ndminatore reflecting he VAN\nand that he was never approached to act as RUSY's attorney.\nguilty of the provious shooting attempt. DUPP would pretend\nto have come knowledge of the previous shooting. but HOMELTS\nHe said he recalls that after the chooting of OSWALD,\nconsidered this Was morely an act on DUYY's part to improse\nSENATOR did indicate a normal anxioty about JACK RUDY. with whom\nROBERTS and KEESTER.\nhe had shared an apartment, but that his greatest concern In-\nmodiately following the shooting had boon his fear for himself\nROBERTS considered DUFF to be a complete phoney in every\nrespect and was couvinced DUFF went along with ROBERTS and\nand the possibility that someone might take some violent Lotion\nKEESTER aerely in AG attempt to got NONO money out of them.\nagainst him because of his accociation with RUBY.\nCommission Exhibit 3016\nOn 1-16-64 of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma File : oc 105-783\nSA J. A. GRIMES\nTX\n1-21-64\nby\nDate distated\n-3-\nThis\n-\n----\n-\n-\nFai,\n.\n\"\n-\nI\n1\n:\nFRI\n-\n-\nI\n-\n.......\n-\nCommission No Continued\n,\nVISUIT\nNo.\n, give .\n2\nInvestigation 'ervice\nOC 105-783\nROBERTS and KEESTER made & tape recording of\nTot Looney, Vates, Looney, Nichole 4 Johnson\ntheir last discussion with DUYP concerning the plan to\nwhoot WALKER, and furned this recording over to the Dallas\nPolice Department."
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