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OCR Page 1 of 36Mr. When you say he didn't Iswish, what do you mean by that?
Mr. Well, your friends down the street have been trying to find
Mr. He is not effeminate; his voice isn't squeaky he didn't wall:
him and haven't come up with him yet.
like or talle like 8 girl; he walks and talks like a man.
Mr. ANDEEWS. Debrucys?
Mr. LIERELER. Did you notice anything about the way lie walked? Was
there
Mr. Yes.
any(hing striking about the way he carried himself?
Mr. ANDREWS. Sometimes the stools on that are not too good. They need
Mr. ANDREWS. I never paid attention. I never watched him walk other than
Latin stools for that boy.
into and ont of the office. There's nothing that would draw my attention to any-
Mr. LIEBELER Off the record.
thing out of the ordinary, but I just assumed that he knew these people and was
(Discussion off the record.)
running with them. They had no reason to come. The three gay kids he was
Mr. LIERELER. Did you just indicate that you would like to find Mr. Bertrand
with, they. were ostentatious.-, They. were what we call swishers. You can just
and he did run off? Did you see him run off?
look it them. All they had to do was open their mouth. That was it. Walk,
Mr. ANDREWS. Yes: I chaised him, but I couldn't go.
they can swing bet.ter than Sammy Kaye. They do real good. With those pro-
Mr. This was when you saw him G weeks ago?
nounced ones, you never know what the relationship is with anyone else with
Mr. ANDEEWS. Yes: this barroom is right adjacent to-the street-as you go
them, but I have no way of telling whether he is gay or not, other than he came
in, there are two entrauces, one on the block side and one on the corner. I had
in with what they call here queens. That's about it.
no more idea of finding him than jumping off the bridge. I went in there hoping,
Mr. You have never seen any of these people since that first day
and the hope came through. I was so surprised to see him there. I kept work-
they came into your office with Oswald, that first day and when you saw them
ing my way there to go to the front when he recognized ne and he sprinted
down at the police station?
out the door on the side of the street and was gone. I had to go past him to
Mr. ANDREWS. The thrce queens? The three gay boys? No; I have never
go to the phone. I should have conked him with the beer bottle.
seen them.
Mr. LIZBELER. He took off as soon as lie saw you?
Mr. LIEBELER. There were just three of them?
Mr. ANDREWS. No; but I was moving to go to the phone. He thought I was
Mr. ANDREWS. The Latin type. Mexicanos will crop their hair and a Latin
moving towards him.
won't, so I assume he is a Mex.
Mr. [handing picture to wifness). I. show you Pizzo Exhibit No.
Mr. So altogether there were five of them that came into the office?
453-A, and ask you if you can recoguize anybody in that pieture.
Mr. Axpiéws. Five. The only other thing that shook me to my
Mr. ANDREWS. The one that has a brief case under his arm, full, face towards
have the other part-the Secret Service brought me some things. They don't
the looker, appears to be Lee Oswald. This boy back hore [indicating] appears
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have the complete photograph. They have another photograph with the two
to be familiar, but I would have to blow his face up to be sure. He is in
Realpey sisters. They are actually in the office, and that shook me down to my
between. See, this one here [indicating] I have never seen this picture
toes pretty good.
before. A
Mr. LIEBELER [handing pieture to witness). The picture you refer to might
Mr. LIEBELEI.. Tetween Oswald, who has the cross mark over his head, and
be Pizzo Exhibit No. 153--B. Is that the one?
the man who has the arrow over his head?
Mr. Yes, this is it. Victoria Realpey-Plaza and her sister Mar-
Mr. ANDREWS. He is a local -boy here, a face I recall. It would take me a
guerite Realpey-Plaza, and I can't recall this young lady's name here at all
while to place it, but the face appears to be familiar.
[indicating).
Mr. LIEBELER. You haven't seen this picture before, is that correct?
Mr. LIEBELER. You are pointing to the three women who are standing-
Mr. ANDREWS. J don't believe.
Mr. Axposws. The one facing, standing as you look at it.
Mr. LIEBELER. That's the one you can't identify?
Mr. The Secret Service and the FBI have sliown you various pic-
tures, but you don't recall this one?
Mr. ANDREWS. Yes: I have her file in the office. Uncle is a warden at the
Parish Prisoi here in New Orleans.
Mr. ANDEEWS. I don't recall seeing that one. There was one of a series
Mr. LIEBELER. And you are referring to the three women that are standing
where-one of an attornoy in town was there-where we all knew him. They
at the right side of Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-B?
may have shown me this, but I don't remember. We used to have a club back
Mr. ANDREWS. The girl carrying the pockethook.
in 19-16 called Lock (?) Fraternity, and he resembles a boy that was a member.
Mr. That's the one whose name you can't remember at the moment?
Mr. LIEBELER I don't think 1 have any more questions, Mr. Andrews.
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Mr. ANDREWS. Right.
want to thank you very much for coming in and I appreciate the cooperation
Mr. LISBELER. Now this little fellow standing on the far left side of the pic-
you have given us.
ture, have you ever seen him before? Is he one of those gay boys who were
Mr. ANDREWS. I only wish I could do better.
in the office?
Mr. ANDEEWS. No; these were all Americanos; these boys. He may be, but
he is Latin looking.
Mr. LIERELER. He looks like a Latin?
Mr. ANDREWS. Right. This boy should be able to be found. I wanted to look
TESTIMONY OF EVARISTO RODRIGUEZ
for laim, but I didn't have a pieture of him.
&
Mr. Who is that?
The testimony of Evaristo Rodriguez. was taken on July 21, 1964, at the oil
Mr. ANDREWS. The one you Just asked me about. If you put some circulars
Civil Courts Building, Royal and Conti Streets, Now Orleans, La., by Mr. Wesley
around to have the Latin American people squeezed gently, he has got to be
J. Liebeler, assistant counsel of the President's Commission. Special Agent
found, They are very clannish. There are only certain places they go. Some-
Richard E. Logan, interpreter, Federal Bureau of Investigation, was present.
body has to remember him. He can't just come into New Orleans and disap-
pear. As loig as he walks the street, he has to cat and he has to have some
Evaristo Rodriguez, having been first duly sworn, was examined and testified,
place to sleep and-but I didn't have a pieture of him, and nobody-you just
through the interpreter, Mr. Logan, as follows:
can't do it. But a lot of water has run under the stream. He may or may
Mr. LIEGELER. I am an attorney on the staff of the President's Commission
not be here, but it wouldn't be too hard to locate him, you know, with the proper
investigating the assassination of President Kennedy. I have been authorized to
identification.
tako your testimony by the Commission pursuant to authority granted to it by
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