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67 1 Q Did you know who Mr. Sturgis was in 1979? 2 A If I said, "Who is Mr. Sturgis?" I had obviously 3 forgotten who he was. 4 Q But you had known of him before '79; is that correct? 5 A If I had originally heard of Mr. Sturgis, it would 6 have been during my time at the Agency. 7 Q Did you ever direct Mr. Sturgis in any of his opera- 8 tions? 9 A No. 10 Q Did you ever direct him indirectly, that is, through 11 others? 12 A Well, I don't know. I mean that's a hard question 13 to answer. He might have been the instrument of carrying out 14 something that I asked somebody else to do. 15 Q Now, this is going to require a reading of this 16 entire transcript, I'm afraid, unless we can find some way to 17 short-circuit it, but this is the question: Is there anything 18 in this deposition, which went on for a total of 89 pages -- 19 and that includes the notary certificate -- or 88 pages of 20 substance at the most -- is there any substance at all re- 21 ferring to the article in Spotlight magazine which is the 22 basis of the lawsuit of this case? Acc-Federal Reporters, Inc.

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