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49 1 BY MR. LANE: 2 Q I am going to ask the question again: Mr. Helms, 3 you have testified, I think, that you entered a plea to a 4 charge. I am asking now: What was the testimony that you 5 gave before the Senate Committee which led to the charge which 6 resulted in your entering a plea -- the nature of the subject 7 matter? 8 MR. SNYDER: Objection on this ground: Maybe one of 9 you two from the Office of General Counsel can say if it 10 truly was a nolo plea. I don't think it can be used collater- 11 ally against him for any purpose. If it's a guilty plea, it 12 can. Does anybody know or willing to say? 13 His testimony up to now is that it was a nolo plea, 14 to his recollection, and I would object on the basis that it's 15 not proper under the FRE to go into that. 16 MR. STRICKLAND: Mr. Snyder, I would think that is 17 your objection to make and I think it is made for the record. 18 MR. SNYDER: Well, if you aren't willing to state 19 which it was, then in the interest of protecting myself so 20 that this testimony can be read into the record, I would ask 21 you to allow Ambassador Helms to answer that question. 22 MR. STRICKLAND: You may answer that question, Acc. Federal Reporters, Inc.

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