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-3- This conversation centered principally on Central and South America -- the best way to get there and the general living conditions. GIRNUS, who said he had traveled quite a bit in Central America, told OSWALD what he knew about these countries. Suddenly, at this point in the interview, GIRNUS told me he did not want to give me any more details. He said the institution (penitentiary) bugged him, and he did not want to talk any further lest he get himself into a storm. (He was obviously committing crimes in this area, and was fearfulof prosecution). He said he did not realize I would be taking down everything he said. He told me he would have someone in Atlanta send me a picture of two to me people. One of the persons in the picture was LEE OSWALD. He this said the picture was taken in Mexico. Additionally, he was sending me an FAA flight plan which would be self explanatory and helpful in our investigation. FERRIE allegedly had something to do with the flight recorded on the flight plan. I assured him we were only interested in facts that aided us in our investigation, but he still refused to go on with a fact- detailing interview. So I put my pad away, and engaged him in general conversation about the prison. During this conversation I was able to elicit a few more facts. ? The last time GIRNUS saw OSWALD was when he drove him to CatullaD Texas. This trip took place sometime in September, 1963) While in Catulla, GIRNUS introduced OSWALD to a friend of his who was an ex-Mexican army man. OSWALD and GIRNUS' friend went into Mexico through Laredo, Texas. Their trip had something to do with getting OSWALD': passport. GIRNUS attended several parties where SHAW was present. At least one of these took place in Hammond, Louisiana) GIRNUS thought SHAW % it was SHAW's home, but he was not sure of this OSWALD was at this particular party which took place in a Glarge colonial brick (house which had a big yard all around it. Though GIRNUS terminated this particular interview abruptly and at a crucial time, I feel he will talk to me further.

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