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    "ocrText": "W.\nWhen he talked, how did he - I mean when you remember the scene,\nhow did he lean over the table? How did he sit at the table?\nDid he have any books with him there, or was he just--\nK.\nHe had some kind of a - it wasn't a book, actually. It looked\nmore like note leaf. thing. This is the same man. I might be\ngetting two men confused now, but like the thing with little\nprongs, you put the paper on, you close it up. I'm not sure\nwhat they call them but - you see what I mean.\nW.\nWas he sitting forward on the table, or --\nK.\nNo. The first time I saw him he was leaning back on the two\nfron: legs of the chair up. Because when I walked by the first\ntime it was kind of crowded, and I thought if I walked too\nclose to him, you know, I could knock him off the chair. That's\nthe only reason I remember that.\nW.\nAnd he got into the conversation with you I notice, I mean how?\nDid he do this with his hands or like that, or did he use his\nhands to gesture.\nK.\nI don't remember.\nA.\nAnd you don't recall anybody that might have been there at the\ntime, and might have seen what you saw?\nW.\nPat, or Patrick Patton and Pat\n?\nK.\nI'm pretty sure at one time they were. I know they were at the\nLast Trump which is right across the street after that closed up.\nBut, I'm also - I'm almost sure that I've seen them there.\nW.\nThey're still in town too, aren't they? They're living at,\nI think it's 2528 Frankfort.\nK.\nNo, they left.\nW.\nThey were around the Ryder constantly.\nK.\nThey went to California, if I'm not mistaken.\nA.\nCan you think of anybody that might have been there that\nK.\nI know people that were there when I was there usually. Richie\nAlbrecht and his wife Mala. Both of them are out of town.\nI\ndon't know where either of them are now. There was also a girl\nnamed Dennie that was there, but I don't know her last name and\nI haven't seen her since then."
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