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I recall only two of the suggestions I made. The first involved Intel)
a method of poisoning with a chemical that would "blow his stomach
apart" and another involved the use ofa remote control model airplane
or rocket with a bomb in it. Gary S response was, as best I recall,
pretty much the same each time - no comment to speak of, just a
smile in Slim's direction.
At one point Slim interjected. "Remember what I told you about
brother-in-Ins, Kerry. Don't forget his name. He's a good man to
know." Briefly Gary and I discussed his name -- how to spell it,
what it, meant in German, and the meaning of another German name
(Steink(lopf(sp?) a man who had been in MACS-9 back when I knew
Oswald).
Another thing Gary asked me at one point was what I thought of
"bringing Jimmy Hoffa into this thing. T1 I said I thought it would
Land that I thought he was a good man. Standard false sparror line)
be a good idea, that Hoffa was being persecuted by, Robert Kennedy,
I think It was also during this discussion that I asked Gary what
he had done during the war. (le made the statement more than once --
and I thinl: this was about the second or third time -- that he and
other mid-Westerners of German ackground had been sent to the
Pacific Theater out of foon they would collaborate with the Germans
it sent to Europe. I believe but am not absolutely certain, Ehats
Gary told me the was in Naval Intelligence and that he had spent his
time on a ship in the Pacific (possibly on Guam) monitoring, radio
broadcasts.
These discussions definitely took place after the U.N. had sent
Congolese troops into Katanga because that was also one of the
things we talked about as good reason for hating Kennedy.
At another point Gary said : "I think a good form of government
would be one where each interest group elected representatives --
each industry, each union, And so on, outlining the fascist
corporate state -- finally asking, "Don't you think that would be
a good form of government?" I said yes -- and then remembered that
Gary had told me once before that this was fascism, which I certainly
did not think was "a good form of government.' But by that time Gary
was smiling smugly, as if extremely satisfied with getting me to make
that particular answer to that particular question, and so I let it
pass.
buring most of these discussions I had been sitting by the door
or squatting in the center of the room and Gary had been sitting at
the end of the room opposite the door, on a sofa. Slim, who said
very little the whole time, was sitting to my right and Gary's left
on one side of the room.
Finally, there came a time when I had a definite feeling the
discussion was over. I couldn't figure it out. Gary and Slim had
been acting very odd -- saying little, giving one another significant
looks, smiling at what seemed to me inappropriate moments. Some
of the time -- for a moment or two now and then -- I would get the
idea they were really serious about all this. Then one or the other
of them would say something or would fail to comment -- and I
would get the idea we were just playing games. I think I probably
wondered whether or not Gary had maybe bet Slim that I would be
enthusiastic about killing Kennedy, hence the significant smiles,
and failure to develop any of my suggestions. *
* I think Slim "sanitized" the incident by telling me it was the
result of a bet, a few days later.
Absolutely not generally known
for 7. Intellegin Comments M plans.
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