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BANISTER, Guy
SEPTEMBER - Cont.
Sunday
8
Monday
9
At library
Tuesday
10
Filed unemployment claim.
Wednesday
11
Thursday
12
Friday
13
Saturday
14
Sunday
15
Monday
16
Tuesday
17
At Mexican Consulate; Filed unemployment claim.
Wednesday
18
Thursday
19
At library
Friday
20
Ruth Paine arrived in N.O. (or on Sep. 21)
Saturday
21
Ruth Paine with Oswalds
Sunday
22
Ruth Paine with Oswalds
Monday
23
Ruth Paine left with Marina.
Tuesday
24
Filed unemployment claim; changed address
at Post Office.
Wednesday 25
Cashed check. Left N.O. en route for Mexico.
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RE: BANISTER
Statement and Interview with Mr. I. E. Nitschke in the office of
Mr. Jim Garrison, District Attorney on Tuesday, January 17, 1967
at approximately 1:00 p.m.
My name is I. E. Nitschke. I live at 559 Focis in Metairie. My
unlisted telephone number is 831-1648. My office phone at Michoud
is 255-2711.
During the latter part of 1961 I was contacted by William Guy
Bannister, then in the private investigative business in the City
of New Orleans, Louisiana. At this time Bannister invited me to
participate in a bid for the security contract at the forthcoming
reactivation of the Michoud assembly facility in New Orleans,
Louisiana. Bannister's interest was in submitting a bid for the
security as a part of the Housekeeping Program at this facility.
I arrived in New Orleans about mid-November, 1961. Subsequently,
Bannister and I submitted a bid through several prime contractors
for the security contract at Michoud. In the interim, while we
were awaiting the awarding of the Housekeeping or support services
contract, I maintained a desk in Mr. Bannister's office, then
situated at 531 Lafayette in New Orleans.
I recall on one occasion, possibly the early part of December,
196 when I returned to Bannister's office there were several
male persons then engaged in a conference with Bannister. Sub-
sequently, I was invited into his office and was introduced to
four or possibly five males, all of whom from appearance appeared
to be of Latin extraction. I was later advised that these men
were Cubans that had sought refuge in the United States. After
I was introduced to these men it was explained to those present
that I had been considered a firearms expert in my many years
with the Federal Bureau of Investigation; that I had an excellent
understanding of nomenclature and the mechanics, etc. of various
types of firearms. The conversation after the introduction
developed quickly into the fact that the persons in Bannister's
office were interested in obtaining firearms of many varieties,
mainly shoulder weapons, machine guns or semi-automatic weapons.
They were interested in suppliers of this type of weapon. I
recall having stated that Klein's of Chicago, Illinois, a whole-
sale firearms house, would be one source; that a firm in Hollywood,
California, the name of which I do not recall at the moment, were
importers of many foreign types of weapons, primarily shoulder
weapons and this might possibly be a source.
The taller of the men that were in Bannister's office had a full
head of black hair. He appeared to be between 6' and possibly
6'2" tall. His lips were full or thick. He appeared to be the
5=AR
leader in the conversation. There was a short, stocky man that
Page Two
Statement and interview with I. E. Nitschke,
I estimated to weigh from 210 to possibly 230 pounds with obviously
large arms and neck. The others were lighter in complexion and
all definitely appeared to be Latins.
I have been shown a photograph in which the subjects are numbered
from 1 to 7 and bears Exhibit A, my name and the date 1/17/67.
The subject identified with the numeral 3 appears extremely similar
if not identical to the person I have referred to here as the
shorter and heavier built of the Latins in Bannister's office.
The photograph bearing Nitschke-C with the date 1/17/67 is a
generally good likeness of one of the men in Bannister's office.
I recall that he had a more or less hairline mustache, black hair
and was perhaps as light or lighter in skin coloring than any of
the others in the office. He did not appear to inject himself in
the conversation but sparsely and that for the most part was in
Spanish between himself and the others in Bannister's office.
The conversation for the most part was directed to an individual
hereinafter described as D-3 in photograph Nitschke-D dated 1/17/67.
The man in photo Nitschke-D appears to have a very striking
resemblance to the tall man that I have previously described.
Not too long after I had entered Bannister's office, the subject
D-3 took a tablet on Bannister's desk and with a pen drew a rough
sketch of a silencer adaptable to a rifle. At this point subject
D-3 asked me specifically if I knew where silencers could be
acquired that might be attached to rifles and or machine guns.
My reply to this query was in the negative. He then completed
the sketch that he had started and asked if the writer had any
knowledge of where silencers could be made. To this query I
replied that they could perhaps be made by any welder or machinist
that was capable of doing precision work; that I knew of no such
person. The gist of the conversation in Bannister's office on
this occasion was primarily concerned with the acquisition of, as
I gathered, a reasonable quantity of weapons. The purpose for
these weapons was not mentioned during my presence. Whether it
was later discussed, I am not aware of.
After the departure of this group, which was late in the afternoon
as I recall, I was told by Bannister that the subject D-3 was
exceptionally adept in guerilla warfare and guerilla-type tactics.
NOTE: Here Mr. Garrison and Mr. Nitschke discussed the difference
in appearance of subject D-3 from the rest of the group, remarking
that it was rather unusual for a guerilla fighter to be so well
dressed and well groomed.
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Statement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.
I have. been shown a photograph identified as Nitschke-B with the
date 1/17/67 thereupon and this is a photograph bearing New Orleans
Police Department #107062. This man I met on one occasion in
obview
Bannister's office. Again, this was very late in the afternoon.
I would say approximately 5:00 p.m. I was attracted to the physical
FERRIE
appearance of this man by what appeared to be false hair and/or
false eyelashes and his face appeared as though he had some type
of make-up thereupon. The coat that he is wearing in the photo-
graph even appears similar to the one that he was wearing when
I recall having met him. This man was accompanied by a smaller
person in stature and apparently younger in years and the gist
of his conversation with Bannister when I was introduced was to
the effect that he had just returned from a trip to South America.
I am not certain of the country that he had visited. The person
with him at this time spoke one or two words of Spanish. The
person identified in this photograph appeared to speak Spanish,
in the words that he used, seemingly fluently. I do not know
the purpose of the visit of this individual to Bannister's office
but he did have some conversation with Bannister personally
following my introduction to him. I suppose that he was possibly
in the office at best about one-half hour. I have been advised
that this man's name is David W. Ferrie.
GARRISON:
The man that you described as D-3 in Nitschke-D who is standing
with the group with Lee Oswald -- is there anything else before
we depart from the pictures that you can recall? He is extremely
interesting from the conversation which you described and from
Bannister's description of him. Did he wear, for example, jewelry
of any sort?
NITSCHKE:
No, I don't even recall a ring. I will say this, he was neat
and well-groomed in a dark suit and dark tie.
GARRISON:
Did he speak English?
NITSCHKE:
Yes. Reasonably well, too, by the way.
GARRISON:
Do you recall if he had a nickname?
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Statement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.
NITSCHKE:
No.
GARRISON:
Let me ask about the circumstances of the meeting with these men.
Was this in the inner office?
NITSCHKE:
It was in Bannister's own private office.
GARRISON:
Did he shut the door?'
NITSCHKE:
Definitely. The door was definitely closed. There was only one
door and it was definitely closed.
GARRISON:
Are any of these names of Cuban individuals familiar?
Rogelio Cisceros Diaz? Also known as Eugenio.
NITSCHKE:
No.
GARRISON:
How about the nickname Toro?
NITSCHKE:
No.
GARRISON:
Manual Gonzalez?
NITSCHKE:
Gonzalez. Yes.
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Statement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.
GARRISON:
Does that name come back at all looking at Nitschke-A?
NITSCHKE:
Mr. Gonzalez could be possibly this "3" subject in Nitschke-A
photograph here. I don't want to be positive.
GARRISON:
But that is your impression?
NITSCHKE:
Yes.
GARRISON:
How about the nickname Toro?
NITSCHKE:
No, I don't associate it. I don't know how many timesBannister
had met these men previously but some of them had definitely met
with him before that date.
GARRISON:
There was a relationship?.
NITSCHKE:
Yes. He had met some, if not all of them previously.
GARRISON:
He knew them by name?
NITSCHKE:
Yes. He introduced me, but meeting them only one time the names
did not register.
GARRISON:
How about the name Juan Johnny Martin?
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Statement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.
NITSCHKE:
No. The name Martin is rather common.
IVON:
How about Layton Martens? (showing photograph)
NITSCHKE:
This boy, I am wondering if he was with Ferrie that afternoon.
GARRISON:
He was about 17 years old at that time.
NITSCHKE:
The boy with him wasn't too old. That looks like the boy with
Ferrie. I gathered that the fellow with Ferrie had physically
been with Ferrie from wherever he came from in South America.
That young man looks like he could have been the man.
GARRISON:
Is this boy generally about the age and type?
NITSCHKE:
His haircut was short but whether it was a butch cut or not
I do not know. This might have been the boy that was with him
but I don't want to say. Nitschke-E, New Orleans Police Depart-
ment photograph #105377 might possibly have been the person
accompanying Ferrie on the occasion when I was in Bannister's
office.
IVON:
Amelio Santana? (showing photograph)
NITSCHKE:
No. He doesn't look familiar to me.
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Statement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.
IVON:
Melvin Seeling? (showing photograph)
NITSCHKE:
No. Not by name. He doesn't look at all familiar. No. The
fellows that were in there, their hair was reasonably well-groomed.
It wasn't shaggy.
IVON:
Miguel Torres? (showing photograph)
NITSCHKE:
He could have well been one of them. This fellow bears some
physical resemblance to one of the men. -I am thinking about his
hair. None of them were too old. (Reference here made to photo-
graph Nitschke-F.)
GARRISON:
Didn't it seem rather odd to you after having known Guy Bannister
so long and considering his background that he would be surrounded
by these particular Cubans that you have described?
NITSCHKE:
To be frank with you, it did. They certainly were the type of
people that I would not care to be associated with.
GARRISON:
Of those individuals you described, was there one who seemed
head of all the others, as their leader, in conversation?
NITSCHKE:
Very positively. The one that I have identified here as D-3.
Very definitely the leader of the conversation. The polished
looking fellow. When he spoke the others listened. When he
had the floor, they didn't interrupt him.
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Statement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.
GARRISON:
Did Guy indicate in any way the Latin country with regard to
D-3 and his guerilla tactics?
NITSCHKE:
He mentioned Cuba very definitely. In fact, Guy said, can you
imagine meeting that fellow out in a dark alley somewhere. He
was a wiry, dark fellow.
IVON:
Morris Brownlee?
NITSCHKE:
Not by name, no. Definitely not.
IVON:
(Showing picture) I do not have this man's name.
NITSCHKE:
No. I think there was only one or two that had a mustache and
they were not this heavy. More like hairline.
IVON:
Miguel Mariana Cruz. (showing photograph)
NITSCHKE:
Association starts to bring back some reflection. There was one
of these fellows as I recall that had some pimples on his face
but I don't believe it was this young man here.
IVON:
Alvin Beaubouef. (no photograph)
NITSCHKE:
No. Name doesn't register.
The gist of the whole thing was the acquisition of weapons and
silencers. While I was in their presence that was their sole
reason for being there and what was ahead of it or behind it,
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Statement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.
I don't know. Somewhere in that conversation, and this may not
be a direct quote, money did not seem to be any object - for
whatever that's worth.
I might interject that after the incident I have described,
Bannister advised me that it was his understanding that there
would be training areas physically located in various sections
of the United States and as I recall he principally mentioned
the South, where exiles and people sympathetic to the Cuban pro-
gram would be trained in guerilla warfare and guerilla tactics.
He mentioned that the individual that I have tentatively identified
in photograph Nitschke-D as D-3 was the person that would lead
the training of these people.
ADDENDUM:
Since dictating the above I have been shown photograph Nitschke-G
dated 1/17/67. This is a police photograph of Alvin R. Beaubouef.
There is a very striking resemblance between this photograph and
the man that I observed in Bannister's office with Ferrie, des-
cribed in photograph Nitschke-B. I got the impression from the
small amount of conversation that I overheard that both Ferrie
and Beaubouef had within a matter of hours returned from some
unknown country in South America. I am positive of the fact
that they had been to some South American country, the name of
which I am not positive.
I. E. Nitschke
Date
MEMORAN UM
Any
Re: BANISTER
June 1, 1967
TO:
LOUIS IVON, Chief Investigator
FROM:
CLIENCY NAVARRE & KENT SIMMS, Investigators
RE:
Interview Mrs. Mary Helen Brengel
Business -
929 Howard Avenue
Third Floor
Residence-
2622 Joseph Street
Officers C. Navarre and K. Simms went to 929 Howard
Avenue, Mathes, Bergman, Favrot & Associates, on June 1, 1967, at
2:00 P.M., and interviewed MRS. MARY HELEN BRENGEL relative to
information she may have pertaining to MR. GUY BANNISTER.
MRS. BRENGEL stated that she was employed by MR. GUY
BANNISTER from October 15, 1963, until December 10, 1963. During
this time MR. BANNISTER was using a vehicle which was the property
of MRS. LANNE, the mother of JOHN LANNE. MRS. BRENGEL related
that MR. LANNE would arrive at MR. BANNISTER'S office and tell MR.
BANNISTER that the car needed gas or that it needed oil. And on
one occasion that it needed air in the tires. MRS. BRENGEL
related that it appeared this vehicle was being checked frequently
because of an impending unannounced trip of some sort,
MRS. BRENGEL also related that since MR. BANNISTER was
separated from his wife, he had a lot of personal things stored at
the office and in particular was several rifles, three or four.
Now and then a MR GUYMAN would come into the office and talk to
MR. BANNISTER about these rifles and they would hold them and
examine them. DELPHINE ROBERTS, who was also employed in MR.
BANNISTER'S office at this time, told MRS. BRENGEL that MR. GUYMAN
was MR. BANNISTER'S gun expert.
MRS. BRENGEL stated that during her employment there,
MR. BANNISTER was dickering with the Mississippi Test Sight for
the contract of guarding the facility. In attempting this, he
formed a group comprised of ex-FBI men and it is believed one of
them was named REGIS KENNEDY.
MRS. BRENGEL further stated that the name of DAVE FERRIE
came up during the time MR. BANNISTER was securing information to
prevent the deportation of CARLOS MARCELLO. She could not
remember any particulars about this name.
MRS. BRENGEL related that the day of the assassi
she and DELPHINE ROBERTS were in MR. BANNISTER'S office MR
BANNISTER did not come in at all that day. DELPHINE received a
phone call to inform her that the President was assassina ted and
to turn on the T.V. When DELPHINE ROBERTS turned on the T.V., she
jumped with joy and said "I am glad."
MRS. BRENGEL stated that she had the opportunity to go
into the files and could remember that they were of the FBI type
containing identification of all known communists, integrationists,
and Cuban exiles. Also facts and identification of persons
involved in the present political picture at this time,
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DELPHINE ROBERTS told MRS. BRENGEL that MR. BANNISTER
gave her specific instructions what should be done with certain
files in the event of his death.
MRS. BANNISTER sold most of the files to KENT COURTNEY
according to MRS. BRENGEL.
MRS. BRENGEL stated that JERRY and VICKI BROWN of 1809
Robert Street observed a light in MR. BANNISTER'S office late on
the night of his death.
MRS. BRENGEL stated that the day of MR. BANNISTER'S
death, it was a Saturday morning, DELPHINE ROBERTS tried to call
him by phone and received no answer. DELPHINE ROBERTS then
contacted an FBI man who accompanied her to MR. BANNISTER to find
him dead. MRS. BRENGEL states that it appeared she knew before-
hand and wanted a witness present.
MRS. BRENGEL could not identify any names of persons
involved in the probe with MR. BANNISTER. She agreed to view
photos at a later date and stated she would cooperate fully with
this office.
CIA
Anti-Castro raids continue
Cuban Exiles Have Lear
By ROBERT K. BROWN
used by CIA agent
skiing.
A
NTI-CASTRO military activity in the Carib-
bean and Miami area has reached an all-
incident a
time low. Even an occasional mention of
sentment it
caused the C.A to
large training camps and/or impending anti-Castro
the "Florida" or
operations are now hard to find in once rumor-
And once again the
ridden Miami.
rendered the ship
Present counter-revolutionary operations are
by burning out be
limited to a few surreptitious runs conducted by
and a generator. 0
small groups operating independently of the Cen-
of the "Florida's"
tral Intelligence Agency, which provides food,
has been negofiati
medicine, agents and a handful of weapons for
CIA to repair the
With the money e
then contacts in Cuba. Three or four organiza-
such a repair job.
tions give classes on demolition and other military
ida's" crew hope
subjects in their Tices or maintain scraggly train-
smaller ship with
ing camps where sip men exist on rice, beans,
can conduct their
hope and the pleasure of cursing the CIA. Since
tions without
the abortive invasion of Cuba which CIA spon-
ance."
sored in April, 1961, that agency has become al-
CIA personnel,
most as unpopular as Fidel Castro with large num-
to the "Florida"
bers of Cubans.
crew, are "stupi
CIA sponsored operations
enced and have
against Castro started slack-
to buy supplies, the exiles
They charge tha
ening off in January of this
look to the CIA for weapons,
man of the CI
year before the foreign min-
medicine, foods. ships and all
West-code name
isters' meeting at Punta del
the other materials necessary
is an ex-Agricult
to keep a revolution going. Cu-
ment official who
Este. Failure to initiate oper-
ations after Punta del Este
ban exiles who are not cor-
ing about marine
was explained by pointing
rupt. who are daily risking
and that "Gordo
out that nothing should be
their lives for freedom. say
head of marine 0
done which might substan-
they have been unable to
ANTI-CASTRO FORCES TRAIN IN SWAMPS.
the Miami area
tiate Castro's charge of re-
raise any sizable amounts of
manded anything
newed United States aggres-
money from American citizens
Small commando raids are effective.
50-ft. yacht.
sion before the United Nations.
or industry.
Another Cuban
These exiles say that the
Here is an account of one
by Roberto Bombino who had
ferent organizatio
After that "crisis" passed,
CIA pays a monthly lump sum
such complaint:
recently defected from the
CIA "safe house'
the Cubans were pacified with
-some estimate It at be.
the story that it would take
Sometime ago, a Cuban mil-
command of the Cuban frigate
located on a veg
time for new CIA boss John
tween $100,000 and $200,000-
lionaire bought a small World
"Marti." This same frigate
outside of Miami
McCone to orient himself.
to the "Consejo" which is lead
War II surplus warship
and its commander. Bombino,
came obvious. he
by Dr. Miro Cardona, former
(which we'll call the "Flor-
had chased and attempted to
surrounding nei
Then It was said that the
Premier of Cuba under Castro.
Defense Intelligence Agency
ida") and installed the most
sink the "Florida" three
growing vegetable
Cardona then parcels the
advanced navigational equip-
months earlier according to
the primary put
(DIA) was taking over the
operational missions of the
money out to the varlous or.
ment and engines available.
one of the former crew mem-
farm's new owner
ganizations that make up the
After the boat was equipped
bers.
"vegetable farme
Central Intelligence Agency.
If the Cubans have been un-
"Consejo," they report.
to the tune of better than
The American captain. who
big fuss about
impressed by these expla-
One group which recently
$50,000. the CIA moved in
we'll call "Johnny," told me
planes fiying ove
nations. they have been
broke with the Consejo re-
and offered to take care of
he was offered a year's pay
age.
even more unimpressed with
portedly received a monthly
operational expenses - salary
and a trip around the world,
When one of
the CIA itself-its operating
lump sun of $2,070. This was
for the 20-man crew, repairs,
or a job as port engineer of
asked his Inst
techniques, personnel, accom-
supposed to pay the rent, sal-
ammunition. fuel. etc., as long
Key West If he would with.
his M-3 submach
plishments. reliability and its
aries of the department heads
as they were allowed to con-
draw from the "Florida"
fired single sh
relations with the Cuban exile
of the organization and office
trol the ship.
quietly. With the rest of his
structor replied.
movement in general.
supplies.
The millionaire, who by this
crew listening, "Johnny" told
prohibits firing
Several Americans, who
time was no longer a million-
me how the new, more pliable
weapons In the
The e tight say CIA main-
helped set up a training camp
time had no alternative but to
crew had promptly run the
theless, The Cul
control over the
in the Everglades, reported
-
"Flor!da" aground while test-
CIA expected
majority of anti-Castro organi-
that as soon as It became
Ing her.
Cubans to risk
zations by Its dispensation of
Friction developed between
known that a training camp
"Since we were the only
with weapons will
funds. guns and its system of
the ship's Cuban crew which
was in operation and young
ones that could run her,"
were not comple
informants which do not spy
was captained by an Ameri-
Cubans were clamoring to
Johnny laughed. "the CIA re-
Members of ye
on Castro but on the counter-
can and the CIA representa-
sign up, the CIA contacted the
luctantly gave the "Florida"
ganization bitter
tives in Key West after
revolutionaries.
exile organization sponsoring
back to us, After making ex-
were given cast
several missions failed due to
Money. the lifeblood of any
the camp through Cardona
tensive repairs. we left on a
son submachine
revolutionary movement, has
faulty or incomplete CIA in-
and promised to contribute a
mission to Cuba. A few miles
ment to undergrt
been in short supply. During
telligence reports. The CIA
out of Key West, the auto-
Cuba. When -2°
sizable sum of money to the
the successful 1959 revolt
then attempted to force re.
organization if it would take
matic pilot broke and we had
tempted to test-l
against dictator Fulgencio Ba-
placement of the critical. out-
its men out of the field for
to return to base, On our way
ons only to find
tista. Cuban revolutionaries ob-
spoken but extremely able
just a couple of weeks. The
back. we decided to test the
munition provid
tained most of their funds
American captain who didn't
small outboard motors that
different caliber
men returned to Miami, the
from inside Cuba-from the
hesitate to tell the "spooks"
organization got the CIA
we use to power the small
completely usele
middle and upper classes. This
(nickname for CIA agents)
money and the training camp
boats that ferry men and guns
occasion they W
what he thought of their oper-
has not been possible for the
from the ship to shore, They
mm. recolless
wasn't reopened, these Ameri-
ations.
last year and a half. Further-
didn't work, After stripping
mm ammunition
cans say.
more. funds that were brought
Eventually. the CIA was
all 4 motors. we discovered
"Jose." a well
out of Cuba and made avail-
A
ND one doesn't have to
able to take over the "Flor-
water had seeped into the
athlete who WI
able for revolutionry activ-
look far in Cuban exile
ida" due to its control of the
eylinders."
American comp
ity have been expended and
circles to hear numerous
purse strings and the original
"Johnny" went on to charge
told how be stol
cannot be placed. Thus. if
complaints of CIA
crew and cuptain re-
that these motors which were
several friends
missed
-
to be new had been
the
U.S.
in
4AA THE DENVER POST Sunday, June
3,
1982
e Learned to Hate CIA
used by CIA agents for water
After arriving in the U.S., he
IN SPITE of the CIA, Cuban
their trip. He estimated it cost
skiing.
said. he was promised by the
freedom fighters continue
Castro's already strained
CIA that he would be sent to
to peck away at Fidel's police
budget tens of thousands of
THIS incident and the re-
a camp for specialized train-
state. They say they feel that
pesos as well as consumption
sentment it engendered
ing in the near future. He
such efforts are not in vain.
of precious gasoline and wear
caused 'the CIA to take over
commented sarcastically, "I'd
They point out that they now
on vehicles used to transport
the "Florida" once again.
like to know what they mean
bribe fishermen and Castro's
the militia to and fro.
And once again the new crew
by near future, as I'm still
militia with ice. food and med-
rendered the ship inoperative
"You don't have to spend
waiting."
icine so they can carry out
millions of dollars to hurt
by burning cut both engines
"Jose" related how he and
their missions.
and a generator. One member
Castro," the American ad-
several of his co-workers had
American volunteers, in no
of the "Florida's" originalcrew
viser continued. "Multipiy
placed large amounts of C-1-
way connected with the CIA
what we did a hundred times
has been negotiating with the
a high explosive-- vital
or any other governmental
CIA to repair the "Florida."
over and he would really be
points throughout the plant
agency, who advise and train
With the money earned from
burting."
in which he worked. When, he
the Cubans maintain that a
such a repair job. the "Flor-
said, they gleefully informed
multitude of small scale raids
Guerrillas operating in the
ida's" crew hope to buy a
their American manager the
carried out by killer-raider
Escambray and resistance
smaller ship with which they
leaders from the cities con-
plant was ready to blow up
teams could possibly increase
can conduct their own opera-
tinue to trickel into Miami
the manager frantically ob-
the strain on Castro's now
tions - without CIA "guid-
jected, "Don't do that. We'll
straining economy to the
with reports that men are
ance."
be back and we don't want
breaking point.
available to fight but they
CIA personnel. according
can't do it with their bare
that plant destroyed."
to the "Florida's" original
According to these volunteers
hands, After assessing the do-
THERE are confirmed re-
short hit and run missions
crew, are "stupid, inexperl-
nothing situation in Miami,
enced and have not guts."
ports that Cuban lackeys
would keep the Communists
they compare the Kennedy
They charge that the head
of the CIA also have dealt
off balance, destroy morale
Administration's policy of hop-
man of the CIA in Key
poorly with their more coura-
and force them to tighten up
ing that Fidel will wither on
their control even further.
West-code name of "Max"-
geous countrymen. In Decem-
the vine to the little boy that
ber, 1960, Miro Cardone. nom-
The number of personnel In-
is an ex-Agriculture Depart-
was thrown from a horse the
volved In such activities would
ment official who knows noth-
inal head of the CIA-financed
first time he tried to ride him
ing about marine operations,
"Consejo," invited young Cu-
be small and consequently the
and decided not to try again
bans to join the American
likellhood of the security of
and that "Gordon." who is
till the horse died.
armed forces. Several Cubans
such missions being com-
head of marine operations in
SWAMPS.
I talked with claimed they
promised would be slight.
The result of such bungling,
the Miami area never com-
One American adviser re-
other than giving the CIA a
manded anything larger than
had been promised faithfully
lated how he and several
worse name than it had after
ctive.
a
30-ft. yacht.
that they would be sent di-
Cubans had stayed on a key
the Bay of Pigs failure, may
Another Cuban from a dif-
rectly to special training
Bombino who had
near Cuba for several days
produce some side effects that
ferent organization told of a
camps at which they would be
were not counted on. Several
ected from the
while awaiting to make a con-
CIA "safe house" which was
taught the special skills they
the Cuban frigate
tact on the mainland. They
persons said it is likely that
located on a vegetable farm
would need to fight the Cuban
didn't make their contacts nor
if and when Castro falls, the
its same frigate
outside of Miami. It soon be-
Communists.
nander. Bombino,
did they get involved in any
leadership replacing him will
came obvious. he said, to the
and attempted to
One young chap told me
firefights with Castro militia.
not be those individuals spon-
surrounding neighbors that
"Florida" three
that "Miro himself promised
However. he said, word got out
sored by the CIA: such leader-
growing vegetables was not
ier according to
that if I enlisted I would get
of their presence and Castro
ship may come from elements
the primary purpose of the
farm's new owners when these
the training I wanted and
had 5.000 militia combing the
which have had to work
rmer crew mem-
needed. So I enlisted in the
area for two weeks-after the
against the CIA as well as
"vegetable farmers" raised a
Air Force. 1 was sent to Lack-
counter revolutionaries had
Fidel, in which case they may
can eaptain. who
big fuss about crop dusting
land Air Force Base where
left. By his account it cost
not turn Cuba into as pro-
Johnny," told me
planes flying over their acre-
for six weeks I did little more
the American and his counter-
American a bastion as we
red a year's pay
age.
than polish boots, pick up eig-
revolutionary friends $50 for
would desire.
around the world.
When one of the trainees
port engineer of
arette butts and clean la.
asked his instructor why
he would with.
his M-3 submachine gun only
trines. I went to my com-
the "Florida"
fired single shots. the In-
manding officer and asked
the rest of his
structor replied. "Federal law
when I could expect the spe-
g, "Johnny" told
prohibits firing automatic
clal training I was promised.
new, more pliable
weapons In the U.S." None-
He said he knew nothing of
comptly run the
theless, The Cuban said, the
any such "special training."
ground while test-
CIA expected these same
I wrote to the chief of the Air
Cubans to risk their lives
Force and was discharged
were the only
with weapons with which they
shortly thereafter."
could run her,"
were not completely famillar.
When I asked him why he
hed. "the CIA re-
Members of yet another or-
thought such promises were
ve the "Florida"
ganization bitterly claim they
made, he answered, "I think
After making ex-
were given cases of Thomp-
they want to keep us from
irs, we left on a
son submachine guns for ship-
getting in the company's hair.
luba. A few miles
ment to underground forces in
Cubans call the CIA the
West, the auto-
Cuba. When at sea they at-
"company" as the Spanish
broke and we had
tempted to test-fire the weap-
abbreviation for company Is
base, On our way
ons only to find that the am-
Cla."
cided to test the
munition provided was of a
Last month. it is known that
and motors that
different caliber and therefore
the heads of three anti-Castro
power the small
completely useless. On another
organizations (no longer sup-
ΓTy men and guns
occasion they were given .57
ported by the CIA) flew to
ip to shore, They
mm. recolless rifles and .75
Washington to confer with sev-
After stripping.
mm ammunition.
eral congressmen. They re-
5, we discovered
"Jose." a well-known Cuban
ported they were told. "to wait.
seeped into the
athlete who worked for an
wait. it's the best way to save
American company in Cuba,
lives." "Meanwhile, Castro
went on to charge
told how he stole a boat with
gets more and more arms and
totors which were
several friends and escaped
kills more of our friends," one
be new had been
to the U.S. in August, 1961.
leader commented.
MEMORANDUM
Re: FERRIE
February 3, 1967
TO:
JIM GARRISON, DISTRICT ATTORNEY
FROM:
AGENT #1
RE:
SMITH CASE
Night before last, February 1, 1967, STEVE LITTLETON
left DAVE FERRIE a note saying to get in touch with him right
away, it was very important. STEVE LITTLETON wanted DAVE to fly
a Twin-Beech Aircraft, N #5252 T, to Lufkum, Texas.
DAVE was supposed to meet STEVE at the New Orleans
Airport at 8:30 A.M., but he was late and didn't arrive until
9:10 A.M. Well, in his great rush, DAVE tore up his transmission
and burned out his clutch. He arrived at 9:10 A.M., departed at
9:30 A.M., and arrived in Lufkum, Texas at 11:00 A.M. the same
morning. He called me from Texas at 2:30 P.M. and said he would
be a couple of hours late getting back and he arrived back in
New Orleans at 4:55 P.M.
Q. When he got back, did you talk to him?
A.
Yes. He said he went to pick somebody up.
Q.
Did he come back with somebody else?
A.
I suppose he did. I didn't see him arrive.
Q.
When did this partnership deal come about?
When did it start?
A.
Two weeks ago. DAVE FERRIE offered me a partnership
in his business, Air Marine Corporation, alias Mid-
South Aviation, and I accepted the partnership.
Papers are in the process of being drawn up.
Q. You are going to bring the papers to a notary to
have them checked?
A.
Yes, to make sure everything is legal in case he
tries to go back on the partnership.
Q. Where did you get all these names and telephone
numbers?
A. From FERRIE'S office while he was in Texas.
Q. And also this loose-leaf paper with a diagram on it?
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A. Out of files, 1963, a notebook of FERRIE'S in his
office.
Q.
Describe this. What you think it looks like.
A.
It's a diagram of a figure of a man with his back
and what could be called a bullet hole in the back
of his head and right shoulder. Also, a diagram of
a man side-facing with arrows pointing starting from
the back coming to the front of his throat. At the
top of the page there is a triangular line going up
with markings 60 feet high with a line coming down,
2,500 feet long. At the bottom is a diagram of an
airplane. That is all I can make out of it.
Q.
I am going to give you a pencil and want you to put
the date on it that you got it.
A.
February 2?
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14. OSWALD'S INTERSTATE CLAIMS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION
In order to receive unemployment compensation during
his unemployed period, OSWALD filed Continued Interstate
Claims at the Division of Employment Security, 630 Camp St.,
New Orleans. These claims require that you "explain what
you have done to find work." OSWALD filled out these forms
every week and indicated that he had sought work during his
unemployed period as follows: (See Burcham Exhibit, Vol 19,
p. 224-234)
*Mon.- July 22 (filed initial claim)
Tues- July 23: Stone Center
Wed.- " 24: Rex Photography
Fri.-
:
26: O'Donnell Brothers Printing;
Offset Production & Design
Mon.-
" 29: Southern Printing; Krause-Bon Studio
*Tues-
"
30: Godchaux's, Canal St.; Coca Cola Bottling Co.
Fri.- Aug. 2 :
Winston Printing Co.
Sat.-
"
3 : United Fruit Co.; Nifty Printing Co.
Mon.-
=
5 :
Union Printing Co.
*Tues- "
6 :
Cosmos Shipping
Wed.-
"
7 :
Katz & Bestoff
Fri.-
"
9 : Ables Commercial Photography
Mon.-
"
12: Bernados-Weiss Photography; Hartman Studios
*Tues- "
13:
(filed claim)
Wed.- "
14:
Esso Company
Thur- "
15:
Print Rollers, Inc.
Fri.- "
16: Times-Picayune; States-Item.
Sun.- "
18: Bestoff Drugstore (darkroom)
Mon.-
:
19: Krains Shoes; Pedro Art Studio;
Thomas Barberito
*Tues- "
20: Schultz Bookkeeping. (clerk)
Thur- "
22: Jean Guccione (photographer)
Fri.- "
23: Lee Tilton Studio (darkroom)
Mon.-
"
26: Bill Coran Studio (photographer)
*Tues- "
27:
(filed claim)
Wed.- "
28: Francks Studio (photographer)
Thur- "
29: Rosen, 859 So. Front St. (Clerk)
Fri.-
"
30: Reif or Ceif Studio (darkroom)
*Tues-
Sep. 3 : South Central Studio (darkroom)
Wed.-
"
4 : Lincoln Photo Studio (Photo)
Thur- "
5 : Primary Color Lab (darkroom)
Fri.-
"
6 : Dumas Milner Leasing (clerk)
Mon.-
:
9 : McKenzie Shoppe; Marine & Industrial (clerk)
Tues- "
10:
(filed claim)
Wed.-
"
11: Jasimer Co. (clerk)
Thur- "
12: Rathborne Land & Lumber Co. (any)
Fri.- :
13: Sackett Studios (photo)
Sat.-
"
14: Ansco Photo Supplies (photo)
Tues-
"
17:
(filed claim)
Wed.- "
18: Ajax, Inc., Photographers (photo)
Thur- "
19: W. B. Simson, Shipping (any)
Fri.-
"
20: 532 Magazine, B. D. Co. (clerk)
*Tues- : 24: (filed final claim)
It cannot be taken as established that OSWALD in fact
sought work at any of the above establishments, in view of the ease
with which he could have looked them up in the Yellow Pages, and
simply filled in the names on the forms he filled out. It is
especially unlikely that he sought work after obtaining his visa for
Mexico on September 17.
Therefore the following summary of OSWALD's activities
does not include reference to the above alleged attempts to obtain
employment.
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15. SUMMARY OF OSWALD'S MOVEMENTS WHILE UNEMPLOYED IN N. 0.
JULY
Thursday
18
At library
Friday
19
Left Reily Coffee Co.
Saturday
20
Sunday
21
Monday
22
Filed first unemployment claim.
Tuesday
23
Wednesday
24
Thursday
25
Friday
26
Saturday
27
To Mobile
Sunday
28
Mobile to New Orleans
Monday
29
Tuesday
30
At library; filed unemployment claim.
Wednesday
31
At library;
AUGUST
Thursday
1
Wrote "August 1" on letter to V. T. Lee
Friday
2
Saturday
3
Sunday
4
Letter to V. T. Lee postmarked 6:30 p.m. Aug. 4.
Monday
5
At library; Met Carlos Bringuier in Casa Roca
Tuesday
6
Filed unemployment claim
Wednesday
7
Thursday
8
At library
Friday
9
Arrested on Canal St. Spent night at police
station.
Saturday
10
Interviewed at police station.
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AUGUST - Cont.
Sunday
11
Monday
12
Payed fine in Court; at library.
Tuesday
13
Filed unemployment claim.
Wednesday
14
Thursday
15
Friday
16
Leafleting at Trade Mart; Quiroga goes to
Magazine St.
Saturday
17
Stuckey visits Oswald at 8 a.m., and recorded
him at 5 p.m.
Sunday
18
Monday
19
Oswald phone Stuckey (or on 20th)
Tuesday
20
Filed unemployment claim
Wednesday
21
Appeared on Conversation 'Carte Blanche'
at WDSU.
Thursday
22
At library
Friday
23
Saturday
24
Sunday
25
Monday
26
Tuesday
27
Filed unemployment claim.
Wednesday
28
Thursday
29
Friday
30
Saturday
31
SEPTEMBER
Sunday
1
Monday
2
Tuesday
3
Filed unemployment claim.
Wednesday
4
Thursday
5
Friday
6
Saturday 7
Brief History of the Chain of Title of 544 Camp Street
On May 9, 1851 the heirs of Benjamin Story via a notarial act
passed before H.B. Cenas sold the property to Benjamin S. Story.
Forty years later on June 24, 1891 Benjamin S. Story sold the
property to the Crescent Encampment No. 1 of the Order of Knights
of Temperence, who owned the property for 20 years until December
7, 1919 when they sold it to the Longshoremen's Benevolent
Association, also known as the Stevedore's and Longshoremen's
Benevolent Society. The union also owned the property for about
20 years or until March 19, 1942 when they sold it to United
Building Association of New Orleans in whose possession it
remained for the next 17 years.
Throughout the property transfers the corner lot is referred
to by either or both of its municipal addresses: Camp St. and
529-533 Lafayette St. The lot at issue (3rd Tax Assessment
District, Square 164, Lot D) is on the corner of Camp and
Lafayette Streets. The square is bounded by Poydras, Magazine,
Lafayette, and Camp. We know that the Lafayette and Camp Street
addresses belong to the same property not only because the
property descriptions, i.e. "metes and bounds" and the square
footage, match from act to act whether either R both addresses
are used, but also because there is no subdivision plan filed,
which would indicate that the lot had been divided.
On August 6, 1959 in an act before Irving Novick, Notary
United Building Association of New Orleans sold 544 Camp St. to
Oscar J. Friedmann for $32,500.00 cash. On that same date and
before the same notary, Oscar J. Friedmann sold the property to
Capital Gains, Inc. for $50,000.00 on terms.
Capital Gains, Inc. was a relatively new corporation,
incorporated on July 15, 1969 in an act before the same notary,
Irving Novick. Capital's shareholders were:
1. William C. Copping - 20 shares
516 Delta Bldg. 348 Baronne St. New Orleans, LA
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2. Mrs. Louana Buzbee - 1 share
822 Perdido Street (Irving Novick's address)
3. Sidney de Armas - 1 share
822 Perdido Street (Probably Novick's law partner)
Capital's directors were Copping, Buzbee, and Joseph E. LeMieux
(at Copping's address).
On August 25, 1960 in an act before James P. Grevemberg,
Oscar J. Friedmann, Capital Gains, Inc. via its agent, Louis A.
DiRosa sold the property to Sam Newman for $35,000.00 - 6221.00
cash and the balance on terms. The property addresses are 544
Camp St. and 529-31-33 Lafayette St. The act also indicates that
Sam Newman was married and lived at 1337 Mithra Street.
On July 12, 1965, Sam Newman sold the property to Fidelity
Homestead for $58,000.00 cash. The act was passed before Allain
C. Andry (now the President of Fidelity Homestead). On that same
date and before Allain C. Andry again, the property was sold to
Hughes J. de la Vergne II, never married 2314 Jefferson Avenue,
Charles Edouard de la Vergne, never married 427 Walnut, and Louis
Victor de la Vergne, never married 427 Walnut for $34,800.00
terms. Apparently, the Homestead lost over $20,000.00 on the
sale, but Fidelity lost much more.
On March 7, 1973 Judge Edward J. Boyle of the Federal
District Court granted a joint motion filed by the U.S.
Attorney's Office, Gerald Gallinghouse, via Assistant U.S.
Attorney Robert N. Habans, Jr. and by the attorney for the de la
Vergnes, Ralph L. Kaskell, Jr. of DKS. The joint motion sold the
property to the U.S. Government for $141,162.50.
It is indeed ironic that the Federal government chose to
erect its building, named the Hale Boggs Building in honor of
that member of the Warren commission who disappeared in a plane
over Alaska, on the site of the 544 Camp St. building.
Re: BANISTER
PLAY for CUDA PAMPHLETS
MEMORANDUM
FAIR DISPOSITION FILES of
DELPHINE RODERTS
May I, 1967 - Dictated
TO:
JIM GARRISON, District Attorney
FROM:
ANDREW J. SCIAMBRA, Assistant District Attorney
RE:
MRS. MARY BANISTER INTERVIEW WITH
April 29th and 30th, 1967
I traveled to Monroe, Louisiana to talk to Mrs. MARY
BANISTER in connection with the files her husband GUY BANISTER
was keeping in the course of his investigative work. Mrs. BANISTER
told me that after he husband died Mrs. DELPHINE ROBERTS and her
daughter took some files from GUY BANISTER's apartment and also
from GUY BANISTER's office and turned them over to Mr. G. WRAY
GILLS
GILL. She also said that she believes these files were in
reference to an investigation concerning DAVID FERRIE and his
case with Eastern Airlines. She stated that she later on called
Mr. GILL and asked him to return these files to her and he did
not do SO. She said that she does not know what happened to
these files. Mrs. BANISTER went on to say that she also burned
some files because she felt, in her opinion, that these files
should be destroyed as they might hurt some innocent people;
that these files did not contain anything in regards to Communist
or anti-Communist group activities. Mrs. BANISTER told me that
about 1 or 2 days after her husband's death she did go to his
office in an attempt to prevent anyone from taking these files
and discovered that some files had already been taken. The old
man who lived above BANISTER's office told her that he had seen
ROBERTS:
DELPHONE ROBERTS and her daughter take some files while her
daughter and a boliceman, was present.
PAMMHLNTS:
FPCC
She said that the only thing she could say in regard
to OSWALD's Fair Play for Cuba Committee was that she saw some
Fair Play For Cuba leaflets in BANISTER's office when she went
there after his death. Mrs. BANISTER said she threw them away
in the wastebasket. Mrs. BANISTER told me that because she was
in such financial difficulties she sold many of her husband's
files to the Metropolitan Crime Commission, and she gave some
MCC:
to the State Sovereignty Commission, and she also gave some to
the State Police. She said that she also gave a complete index
card catalogue, which was a record of every investigation that
her husband was involved in, to the State Police. Mrs. BANISTER
said that she had never heard her husband speak of the Friends of
Cltainil by
Cuba or Voice of Cuba or SERGIO ARCACHA SMITH, BILL DALZELL, OR
N.O.D.AS office)
CARLOS QUEROGA. She said that the name REGIS KENNEDY is familiar
to her probably because I told her he is an F.B.I. Agent.
I looked over the books which Mrs. BANISTER had, which
were in her husband's library, and these were text books on
various subjects which did not pertain to any investigation. She
told me that she had donated other text books to the New Orleans
Public Library, Northeastern State College, and Louisiana State
University in New Orleans.
Mrs. BANISTER emphasized the point that she did not
want to get involved in any way, and that if anyone did ask her
if she had talked to anyone from the District Attorney's Office,
she would say that she had not. However, Mrs. BANISTER did say
that she would like to help us in any way she could but that she
would like to help us on a confidential basis.
ANDREW J. SCIAMBRA
AJS/leb
you UTI
OFFICE OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY
PARISH OF ORLEANS
STATE OF LOUISIANA
RE: (1) BANISTER
(2) LO "ESCORT"
DECEMBER 29, 1966
STATEMENT OF:
JOSEPH A. OSTER, WM, age 38
RESIDING AT:
809 Audubon
TELEPHONE NO.
525-4205
STATEMENT
In about 1956, Guy Banister and I went in business
together in the private investigating firm known as Guy Banister
and Associates, Inc. At that time, we were in the Balter
Building on St. Charles Street in New Orleans. During the
course of time I was in business with Banister, I met Jack
Martin and others.
Subsequently, I left Banister and formed my own
corporation in 1958. It was known as Southern Research
Company, Inc. now Joseph A. Oster and Associates, Inc.
During the time I was in business with Banister, I
had occasion to visit his home on Argonne Blvd. At that
time, Banister had to my knowledge a number of rifles and also
a 357 Magnum. I can vaguely remember that he had a .30
caliber bolt action rifle also a shotgun, also an over and under,
I don't know what caliber. The .30 caliber bolt action had a
telescopic sight. I know Banister carried a 357 magnum with
gold initials (I think the initials were WGB). What happened
to these guns, I don't know.
During the course of my friendship with Banister,
from the middle of 62 to the end of '63, I met Joe Newbrough,
ALL
Bill Ninski, Delphene Roberts, Jack Martin, and I was introduced
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to Dave Ferrie and two Cuban exiles. I don't remember their
names. One I know was employed in the Audubon Building for
an engineering firm on the 5th floor. He was tall, thin,
Jorge Ramirez Engineer for Warren moses 529 277)
dark hair, and I vaguely remember he was a draftsman or some
kind of engineer. He was approximately 30 to 32 years old.
At the time I met them, they were driving an old Ford. The
other Cuban was short, stocky, moustache and appeared to be
highly educated. He was about 45 years old. When Banister
introduced me to them, he told me they were Cuban exiles
and had been run out of Cuba by Castro. He also told me
they were the heads of some kind of exile movement here in
New Orleans, and they were trying to get some kind of program
started.
I remember one time Banister was telling me about
some automobile parts and heavy equipment being sent to
Cuba in violation of a State Department band against the export
of equipment to Cuba. He was investigating it for
somebody. He told me it was in violation of the State Depart-
ment's band and he left me with the impression it was jeeps,
and sugar refinery equipment. For some reason I remember the
name Dibert, Bancroft, and Roth at Tulane and South Jefferson
Davis. This comes in somewhere, I don't remember exactly where.
He told me he had pictures of this stuff and mentioned the
name of the wharf where it was. He also told me he could
take me and show me the equipment that was going to Cuba.
I remember he told me that he had pictures of this equipment
and
but I don't remember if he told me Newbrough did take them
or was going to take them. He called and asked me about a
camera, but I didn't have the kind he wanted. So, the next
time I saw him, Newbrough was in the office along with Martin,
Dave Ferrie, and Dave Lewis. Delphene Roberts was the
secretary. Bill Ninski was in the other room. This was on
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Lafayette Street. We went around to the restaurant and New-
brough told me he had taken some pictures for Banister.
What they were, I don't know. I think Newbrough or Martin
the
mentioned jeeps to me.
Subsequently, I ran into one of the Cubans I
was introduced to in Banister's Office in my own office
building and I would see him coming in and out of the elevator,
and I asked him if he had seen Banister and he said, "No,
I'm not fooling with that anymore." I haven't seen this
Cuban for about four months now. This particular unknown
Cuban was watching Oswald pass out these pamphlets in front
of Maison Blanche, Kress, and the Audubon Building.
(sic)
I remember - Anna Birdglass was also in and out
check
of Banister's Office during this same period.
photo of
possible
"escort
Unarged letter
Re: (1) BANISTER
(2) CUBAN
Banister Calm
Banesher,
EXILES
Openation
For: Redigult, Friends
of Denr. Cuba + Industed
MR JIV GARRISON
files.
NEW ORLEANS POLICE DEPT.
or
NEW ORLEANS, LA.
111 EARLY JANUARY OF 1.961 I WENT TO NEW ORLEANS WHILE ON A BUMMING AROUND THE
COUNTRY EXPEDITION. AS BY FUNDS WERE LOW AT THAT THE, I BECAN LOOKING FOR
A JOB. WHILE FOLLOWING A JOB LEAD ON A SIDE STREET OFF CANAL STREET - I
DON'T REVEMBER THE NAME OF THE STREET - I NOTED A BUILDING ALL DECKEO OUT
IN RED, WHITE AND BLUE BANNERS 71TH A LARGE SIGN ACROSS THE FRONT IN LETTERS
AT LEAST A FOOT TALL, SAYING FRIENDS OF DEMOCRATIC CUDA (LATER THE NAME WAS
CHANGED),
1) WONDERED AT THIS AS CASTRO WAS AT THAT THE MAKING INTERNATIONAL PLEAS: FOR
MILITARY AID AS THERE WAS, HE SAID, GOING TO 88 AN INVASION FROM THE UNITED
STATES AND HE HAD LONG SINCE DECLARED CUBA COMMUNIST. SD I WENT IN TO
INFORM THESE PEOPLE THAT CUBA WAS NOT A DEMOCRATIC BUT A DICTATORIAL NATION.
I STEPPED INTO THE MOSTUNUSUAL SITUATION I HAVE EVER ENCOUNTERED.
SUPPOSEDLY, THIS ORGANIZATION AND ITS PEOPLE WERE COLLECTING CLOTHING, F000,
MONEY AND NEOICAL SUPPLIES, ETC, FOR CUBAN REFUGEES WHO WERE CONING OVER TO
THE U.S. THE ORGANIZATION JAS IN EFFECT, I LEARNED SHORTLY, A FRONT FOR THE
SCHEME OF AN INVASION OF CUBA AND THIS WAS ONE OF THEIR HEADQUARIERS. HAVING
NO PLACE TO STAY, THEY INVIDED VE TO STAY WITH THEM IN THIS OFFICE AREA THEY
HAD IN THE BUILDING 171 EXCHANGE FOR USE OF MY CAR.
I BECAVE ACQUAINTED WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THE LIKE OF #HI H 1 THOUGHT EXISTED
ONLY IN NOVIES. SHEN YOUR ASSASSINATIONNVESTICATION CAME TO LIGHT 1 RECOGNIZED
IMEDIATEL Y MANY OF THE FACES AND NAMES AS THOSE I HAD ASSOCIATED WITH FOR OVER
TWO NONTHS AND KNEW AS UNPSEDICTABLE CHARACTERS.
I ME T GUY BANNISTER AND TALKED WITH HIM IN GROUPS A NUMBER OF TIMES - NE EXPLAINED
HIVSELF TO BE AN EX F.B.I MAN #NO WAS RETIRED AND NOT DOING PRIVATE INVESTIGATING.
HE HAD SOME KIND OF DELUSTIONS OF GRANDEUR ABOUT OBTAINING A HIGH OFFICE IN CUSA
AFTER THE CAS730 OVERTHROW. WHEN THE FIRST PLAN FOR INVASION DIDN'T MATERIALIZE
(THERE WAS THREE SUCH WHILE I WAS THERE) HE SUGGESTED A WILD SCHEAE TO ORGANIZE
A "DLACK BRIGARD" OF ANTI COMMUNIST BANDIDOS, WHICH WAS TO BE NAMED "BANNISTER'S
BASTARDS" AND WERE TO FIGHT SOUTH AND CENTRAL AMERICAN COMMUNIST CUERRILAS
ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE, FOR PAY FROM GOVERNMENTS OF COUNTRIES. HE CAME INTO
THE OFFICE ALONE MOST OF THE TIME BUT SOMETIMES ME HAD OTHER MEN WITH HIM.
THOUGH MIS NATURE WAS NOT NEARLY AS EXPLOSIVE AS THE LATINS THERE, SOME OF HIS
IDEAS WERE WILD TO SAY THE LEAST. AN INTERESTING POINT. AS WELL AS I CAN
REMEMBER HID, HE LOOKED A GREAT DEAL LIKE THE PICTURES I HAVE SEEN OF CLAY SHAW!
ONE OF THE DISGRUNTLED CUSANS I BE CANE ACQUAINTED WITH WAS SERGIO - CAN'T REMEMBER
HIS LAST NAME - IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE ARCADIS. HE WAS ALWAYS INVAGULATELY DRESSED
IN A BLUE SUIT, WELL SHAVEN AND ALOOF. HE WAS THE CHIEF SPIRIT IN NEW ORLEANS FOR
THE ORGANIZATION OF THE INVASION. MOST OF HIS COHORTS WERE EVIDENTLY 07 THE
SAME SOCIO ECONOMIC LEVEL, USED TO COMMAND AND WANTED THEMSELVES TO ES CHIEF.
THEREFORE THEY COULD NOT SEEM TO BE ORGANIZED. I REMEMBER THAT ONE OF HIS PLANS
WAS TO HAVE A FLOAT 111 THE MARDI GRAS PARADE CONSISTING OF À LARGE CUBAN FLAG -
2
BED SHEET SIZE are ON A FLOAT BED IN THIS MANNER - - WITH POINTING SUPERIUPOSED
TO THE EFFECT THAT PEOPLE THROW COINS ACAINST THE FLAG WHICH TOULD THEN FALL ONTO THE
BEO OF THE FLOAT TO BE COLLECTED TO AID IN FREEING CUBA.
HE, SEROID -- WAS OF AN EXPLOSIVE TEMPERAMENT AND CARED NOT A WHIT FOR ANYONE OTHER
THEN HIMSELF AND HIS POSSESSIONS. ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS ME AND DR. JOSE DEL HAYA (THE
MOST IMPORTANT FIGURE OF THE GROUP) ALMOST DID BATTLE IN THE OFFICE.
I HAVE HEARD NOTHING OF DR. JOSE DEL HAYA IN YOUR INVESTIGATIONS. HE WAS THE NOBLEST
ROMAN OF THEM ALL, WAS SINCERE AND MOST PERSONABLE. HE WAS SLIGHT OF BUILD, ABOUT
THIRTY YEARS OF AGE, REFINED, INTELLIGENT AND THE ONLY ONE OF THE GROUP OF PERHAPS
TWENTY PEOPLE IN THE GROUP THAT WAS OF VALUE. HE TOLD ME ME HAD BEEN WITH THE
STUDENT REVOLT OF 1.953 III CUBA AND WAS SEVERELY WOUNDED. ME FOUGHT WITH CASTRO
ON HIS SIDE, BUT DISAOSEED WITH HIM POLITICALLY. HE TOLD ME HE WAS SENT TO THE
U.S. BY CASTRO AFTER CASTRO'S VICTORY, TO CARNER PUBLIC SUPPORT. HE WAS RECALLED
AND IMPRISONED WHEN HE QUESTIONED THE POST REVOLUTION PURGES. HE ESCAPED, CAME TO
THE U.S. AND WAS STRIVING TO ATTAIN RECOGNITION BY THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOC. AT THE
SOME TIVE, HE WAS TRYING TO CET COMPANIES WITH INDUSTRIES WHICH WERE NATIONALIZED BY
CASTRO TO CONTRIBUTE FUNDS FOR HIS OVERTH900. HE WAS A MAN OF PASSION AND COMPASSION
DE010ATED TO HIS PEOPLE. THE LAST I HEARD OF HIM, HE WAS IN OKLAHOMA CITY WORKING
IN A HOSPITAL. IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING OF HIM, TRY TO FIND HIU. I AM SURE HE KNOUS
AND CAN CONTRIBUTE MUCH KNOWLEDGE TO YOUR INVESTICATION. I DON'T KNOW WHO HE REALLY
WAS. I USED TO ACCOMPANY HIM ON SOME STRANGE MISSIONS WHICH HE VOULD NOT EXPLAIN
AND AFTER THE CIA TIE WAS EXPOSED AT THE BAY OF PIOS, I DEGAN TO WONDER IF ANY OF
THESE PEOPLE MEBEREAL.
THERE WAS A ROUST ABOUT WHO CALLED HINSELF "TIGER" JIH - A ELOATER WHO LIKED TO DEAR
S HIRT AND TIE- WAS POTENTIALLY INTELLIGENT OUT COULD NOT BE TRUSTED FOR A MOMENT.
KE WAS EVIDENTLY A MAN OF WORDLY EXPERIENCE- HE KNEW PEOPLE IN NEW ORLEANS. HE ALSO
CONSIDERED CUSA, AS HE PUT IT, "ONE BIG PIE OF WHICH NE WANTED A SLICE, AND THE
REVOLUTION WOULD AFFORD 17".
NE AND A MAN NAMED CHARLIE, WHO SUPPOSEDLY HAD WORKED IN A JEWELRY STORE IN PHILADELPHIA
PENN., BUT HAD ONLY SHORTLY BEFORE RETURNED FROM MONTEVIDED, DEVISED A PLOT WHICH
I OVERHEARO IN THE PLANNING (AFTER THE SECOND INVASION IDEA FADED OUT) OF ABSCONDING
WITH THE MEDICAL SUPPLIES WHICH HAD BEEN STOCKPILED IN THE OFFICE AND SELLING THE
SERINGES AND MORPHINE IN THE FRENCE QUARTER FOR MONEY TO START A CHICKEN FARM IN
PERUS ALONG WITH A SNACOLE TOOTHED CHARACTER WHO CLAIMED TO BE OF PURE BLOOD
CHEROKEE INDIAN, KOREAN WAR VETERAN AND TRUCK MECHANIC, AND WHO WAS SUPPOSEDLY
ENGAGED TO MARRY THE DAUGHTER OF A MILLIONAIRE FROM LIMA, PERU. HIS NAME VAS
JOSEPH MOORE AND HE GAVE ME THIS ADDRESS IF EVER I WAS IN LIMA, PERU -
AV. AREGAIZ, 2798 SAN ISIDRO, LIMA, PERU. I FOUND I STILL HAD THIS ADDRESS IN
AN OLD WALLET AND THIS IS MASWELL AS I CAN MAKE OUT HIS WRITING. NOTE: I ALSO JUST
FOUND DR. JOSE DEL HAYAS* ADDRESS HE GAVE NS BEFORE LEAVING NEW DRLEANS:
DR. JOSE DEL MAYA, c/o GENERAL DELIVERY, NEW ORLEANS, LA. ALSO 1420, 15TH ST. NORTH.,
ST. PETERSBURG, FLA., AND CONCORDIA 963, HASANA, CUBA.
JOE MOORE WAS TALL - 6 FT. 3 INCHES, THIN AND WEIGHED 175- 180 L8S. CHARLIE WAS
5 FT. 8 INCHES, MEDIUM BUILD. BLOND, SHIRT AND THE TYPE WITH SOME COLLEGE AND A
GREAT CAPACITY TO DEAL WITH EXPLOSIVE LATIN NATURES. HIS CLOSEST COHORT WAS A
MAN WHO REMINDED ME OF GENE KELLY (ACTOR) IN APPEARANCE BUT WAS MENTALLY BACKWARD,
HE CLAIMED TO HAVE JUST ESCAPED TO THE U.S. FROM 1 PRISON IN VERA CRUIZ, WHERE HE
AND SEVERAL CONFEDERATES HAD BEEN IMPRISONED FOR BEING CAUGHT WITH A LOAD OF GUNS
3
WHICH WERE HEADED FOR GUATEMALA.
THEN THERE WAS BILLI WHOEVER HE WASS HE LOOKED LIKE A POOR MAN'S CLARK CABLE WITH
TWENTY EXTRA POUNDS. A THEATRICAL CENERAL WHO LIKED TO SIT BENIND A DESK WITH PAPERS
AND PEN IN MAND WITH OVERLY DRAWATIZED EXPRESSION OF MEDITATION AND CONCERN. HE
WANTED TO BE A COUMANDER IN THE FIELD OF THE COUNTER REVOLUTIONARIES AND STOICLY
DISREGARD THE PRAISE OF THE FREED MULTITIDE AS HE BORE THE WEIGHT OF THE OFFICE OF
FREEDOM, AS LONO AS IT WASN'T DANGEROUS OR REQUIRED NO REAL RESPONSIBILITY. I
REMEMBER HE WAS LIVING OFF AND ON WITH A VERY HEAVY BLOND WOMAN III THE QUARTER WHO
WORE WHITE AS IF SHE WERE A NURSE. HER NAME WAS DEITY, SHE ONCE CALLED THE OFFICE
Forrett?
AND SAID SHE HAD FOUND A NOTE IN THE GARBAGE CAN INDICATING THAT BILL WAS A DOUBLE
AGENT*.
A GIRL WHO CLAIMED TO BE FROM COLUMBIA NAMED CHRISTINA CAME INTO THE OFFICE
FREQUENTLY, STRUCK A RELATIONSHIP WITH TICER JIII AND THEY BECAME ENOAGED. SHE WAS
A DEVOUT PATRIOT TO LATIN FREEDOM AND STAUNCHLY SUPPORTED THE CASTRO OVERTHROM.
HOWEVER, SHE WAS REFINED AND EDUCATED SOMEWHAT AND NOVED THROUGH AT DOD ANDLES IF
THAT BAKES SENSE, NOT FITTING AT ALL WITH THE OVERALL EARTHY, CARNAL GROUP TYPE CAST.
SHE WAS MORE OF DEL HAYA'S CLASS ... I REMEMBER THAT WE WENT OVER TO VISIT HER ONCE
AND ALL EVENING THERE WAS CONVERSATION IN DOUBLE TALK. I AM SURE IT WAS NOT THAT
OF SEDUCTION AROUND ^ THIRD PERSON EITHER.
THERE WAS A FELLOW CALLED ROSIE. HE WAS UNCLEAN, LETHARGIC OF MIND AND LETHAL.
THOUGH HE SEENED DULL EYED AND DULL WITTED, HE WOULD AT THE SAME TIME DO LITTLE
THINGS THAT REQUIRED VIT. HE WANTED ME TO 00 ON A LITTLE THIP WITH HIM TO BRAZEL
WHERE WE WERE TO PICK UP A QUANTITY OF UNCUT STONES WHICH WOULD THEN BE DROPPED
ON A REEF AT THE EDGE OF U.S. TERRITORIAL WATERS TO BE PICKED UP BY DIVERS AND
SUUGGLED INTO THE U.S. WE WOULD SPLIT $50,000.00 FOR IT. I WAS THE ONLY ONE HE
TRUSTED.
ON TWO OCCASIONS, AN ALOOF, REFINED, HANDSOME YOUNG CUBAN CAME IN, WHO WAS NAMED
FRANCESCO SOMETHING. HIS FATHER WAS AROUND OFTEN AND HAD FOUGHT FOR CUDAN UNITY
AND FREEDOM SEVERAL TIMES. EACH TIME FRANCESCO WAS TO ARRIVE, THERE WAS MUCH
HULCABALLOO. BY CAR WAS USED TO PICK HIM UP AT THE AIRPORT.
OF LITTLE VALUE BUT ALWAYS THERE WAS A MENTALLY RETARDED MAN NAMED JERRY.
IN REFERENCE TO ALL THE ABOVE NAMED PEOPLE, I AM SORRY THAT I CANNOT REMEMBER THEIR
FULL NAMES, BUT I COULD IDENTIFY MOST OF THEIR PHOTOS AND RECALL MORE DETAILS ON
EACH OF THEM AND OTHERS. IF YOU THINK THAT I COULD BE OF HELP, PLEASE WRITE A
LETTER TO PLAYSOY MAGAZINE, STATING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK WITH THE GUY FROM
UP NORTH. 1. WOULD CONTACT YOU DIRECTLY BUT IT IS TOO DANGEROUS.
MEMORANDUM
Re: FERRIE
January 11, 1967
TO:
LOUIS IVON, INVESTIGATOR
FROM:
LYNN LOISEL, INVESTIGATOR
RE:
PHONE CALL FROM JIMMY JOHNSON REGARDING FERFIE AND
THE SMITH CASE (January 10, 1967, 4:00 P. M.)
It is to be noted that Jimmy Johnson who was once a
close associate of Ferrie, but broke free from Ferrie but as a
favor for this office, renewed his friendship with Ferrie for
information purposes for this office.
Jimmy stated that Ferrie had contacted Pershing the
other day in regards to the Cuban woman's name that was
mentioned in the Saturday Evening Post article.
That Ferrie had called a lawyer (name unknown) last
night which would be January 9, 1967, and spoke with the
lawyer about his being investigated by this office. Details
of conversation unknown.
Ferrie has a lot of old army paraphernalia in his
apartment, such as, walkie talkies, incendiary bombs, etc.
Ferrie was showing nude pictures (moving films)
to two young boys and a district police car shined a light on
his front porch and he really became frightened and uncontrol-
lable, telling Jimmy that the police must suspect him.
Jimmy stated that one Steve Littleton parked a twin-
engine beacheraft in Ferrie's spot at the sirport, and that
their plane was flown in from out-of-town. It is at Ferrie's
disposal. He also heard Ferrie and Littleton talking about a
little island somewhere and they were interested in knowing if
they could land the beachcraft on this island.
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Jimmy feels that they may have taken a smaller
airplane and flew to this island today to look at a possible
landing spot,
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MEMORANDUM
Re: FERRIE
February 10, 1967
TO:
JIM GARRISON, DISTRICT ATTORNEY
FROM:
AGENT #1
RE:
SMITH CASE
Agent #1 stated that DAVE FERRIE hasn't been very
active the past week. He continuously complains of being sick
and knows that he is going to die soon.
Agent #1 stated the parnership he and FERRIE has is
not working out. He has been working with FERRIE and FERRIE will
not pay him any money. He stated that he got into a heated argu-
ment with FERRIE on Wednesday, February 8, 1967, because he
needed $90.00 to pay his rent. After threatening to "kick the
shit" out of him (quote from Agent #1), DAVE FERRIE brought
$45.00 to Agent #1's wife, and promised to give the rest to him
later on that day. When Agent #1 insisted on the rest of his
money, DAVE FERRIE told him he didn't have it and couldn't get it
for him now because he was going home, that he was not feeling
well and didn't want to argue any more. FERRIE stated he was
going to straighten everything out in the next day or so (meaning
his business) and then kill himself.
While in the District Attorney's Office, Agent #1 was
requested to telephone DAVE FERRIE and have a friendly conversa-
tion with him so as not to break up their relationship. Agent #1
stated that this was no problem because DAVE FERRIE was in love
with him. The call was made and arrangements were made to have
Agent #1 pay a friendly visit to DAVE FERRIE.
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MEMORANDUM
(Copy & * Richard Benns
November 7, 1967
Ra: CUBANS (general)
Ra: BANISTER
Rs: CARLOT QUIROZA
TO:
JIM GARRISON, District Attorney
Note: Apparently Newman Cuban rented
Climing to FDI
FROM: TOM BETHELL
544 Camp Street to
on 2 occasions:
(1) oct '61 they FEB 162
RE:
Unidentified men at
544 Camp Stree
For an period
beginning (2) "MARCH APRIL
(But contradute
etatement to 5/5
Summary of interviews with SAM NEWMAN
he this any 544 not teat to Cuband
Signature (62) gs
1. 11/23/63 S.A. ANTHONY GERRETS
S.S.
CE 3119
2. 11/25/63 S.A. WALLE & FOLSE
FBI
Archives, CD 75
3.
11/27/63
SGT. AUSTIN & DET. FREY
(N.O.P.D.)
CE
1413
4.
12/2/63
S.A. RICE
S.S.
CE 1414
5.
1/18/67
GEORGE ECKERT
(BANISTER file)
1. NEWMAN's initial interview on 11/23/63 resulted from the
discovery that some of OSWALD's literature bore the address
544 Camp Street stamped on it.
NEWMAN related that he had rented office space to "Cuban
revolutionaries" over a period of three or four months, but that
he had evicted them because they got behind on the rent. After he
had evicted these revolutionaries, he discovered that "an unknown
subject (white; male; 22/24; 5'9'2'2"; 185 lbs.; fair complexion;
light brown hair; spoke with Spanish accent) had moved into the
space in the building vacated by the Cubans without notifying him.
NEWMAN only saw him once "and had no idea as to what his name
might be." NEWMAN gives no indication of the date of this
encounter (either month or year).
According to the same Secret Service report (CE 3119), one
JAMES ARTHUS ("apparently harmless protective Research subject of
file CC-2-32, 791") at 544 Camp Street who "stated that an unknown
man had attempted to rent an office at 544 Camp Street, but that he
discouraged him."
2. In his interview with the FBI, NEWMAN advised that he rented
the office space to the Cubans "approximately 8 or 9 months
ago, i.e. March or April 1963 He added that he did not
recollect seeing OSWALD in or around the building, nor had he
rented any office space to the FPCC, or anyone by the name of
OSWALD. Someone called him, in September 1963, however, wanting
to rent office space, but NEWMAN did not see this individual, as
he put him in touch with the aforementioned JAMES ARTHUS the
janitor.
NEWMAN added that "9 or 10 months ago" (Jan. or Feb. 1963) a
tall, thin man, aged about 38, with dark hair, did contact him and
paid one month's rent for an office, which he was going to use to
teach Spanish.
This is presumably not the same man NEWMAN had mentioned two
days earlier to the Secret Service, whom NEWMAN does not mention
in this interview.
R6:CARLOS QUIROGA
1.
You have said you were in LEE OSWALD's company only on one
occasion (i,c., when you attempted to "infiltrate his
organization") Isn't it a fact that you were in OSWALD's
company on a number of occasions?
Answer:
Evaluation:
No
S/R
2.
Do you have any first-hand knowledge of the conspiracy to
assassinate President Kennedy?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
N/S/R No Specific reation
DiewthanDowall
3.
TDO you know the names of the men who participated in
killing President Kennedy in Dallas?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
N/S/R No Specific reactions
4.
Did you know in advance that it was going to be done?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
N/S/R No Specific reactions
5.
Do you know the names of the two men who visited SYLVIA
ODIO in Dallas with LEE OSWALD?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
N/S/R W.O specific reactions
6.
Have you ever visited SYLVIA ODIO in Dallas?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
N/S/R No Specific reation
7
In the late Summer and early Pall of 1963, LEE OSWALD is
often seen in the company OF a stocky, unusually powerful
man of Latin descent. This man is described by various
witnesses as being dark, unusually strong looking and
having a very thick neck. TO you think you know the name
of this man?
Answer:
Evaluation:
No
S/R Specific reactions
8.
You have said you tried to "infiltrate" OSWALD's
"organization". Isn't it a fact that you knew that his
"Fair Play for Cuba" activities were merely a cover?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
S/R Specific reactions
9.
Is it not a fact that at that time OSWALD was in reality
a part of an anti-Castro operation?
Answer:
Evaluation:
No
S/R Specific reactions
10.
Do you know the names of the other men who were involved
with OSWALD in the New Orleans operation in 1963?
Answer:
Evaluation:
No
W/S/R No Specific reactions
11.
Did you participate in any way in the conspiracy to kill
President Kennedy?
Answer:
Evaluation:
No
R/S/R No specific reaction
12.
Did SERGIO ARCACHA participate in any way in the conspiracy
to kill President Kennedy?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
N/S/R No Spenific reation
13.
According to your own knowledge, did DAVID FERRIE know
LEE OSWALD in 1963?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
M/S/R No Specific vactions
14.
Did CLAY SHAW?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
R/S/R Wo Specific Reactions
15.
Did SERGIO ARCACHA?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
S/R Specific reaction
16.
Did JACK RUBY?
Answer:
Evaluation:
no
MS/R No Specific is reactions
17
Did GUY BANISTER?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
S/R
specific praction
18.
Did GORDON NOVEL?
}
Answer:
Evaluation:
No
r/s/r No Sprific wastion
19.
Did any other persons, whom you know of, know LEE OSWALD
in 1963? (We are not referring to chance encounters) ?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
S/R
20.
Do you know who got OSWALD his job at the Reily Coffee
Company?
Answer:
NO
Evaluation: 10/5/2 No Specific Reaction
21.
Do you know which individuals at the Reily Coffee Company
were aware of OSWALD's real mission in New Orleans?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
r/s/A vo Specific Pactions
22
Prior to the assassination of the President, did you ever
see any of the guns which were used in his assassination?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
S/R Specific Reactions
23.
Do you know where the men who killed President Kennedy
stayed while they were in Dallas?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
No Specific Reaction
24.
Do you believe that you know who fired the shots from in
front of the President?
Answer:
Evaluation:
no
R/5/R No
25.
After the assassination, did you ever have occasion to
see (in real life, not on TV) any of the men who took
part in it?
Answer:
Evaluation:
pro
M/S/R No Specific Peaction
26.
According to your own knowledge, did DEAN ANDREWS know
about any special mission in which OSWALD may have been
involved in the Summer of 1963?
Answer:
NO
Evaluation: w/s/e no Specific Reactions
27.
Do you have reason to believe that DEAN ANDREWS knew about
the conspiracy to kill the President?
Answer:
Evaluation:
nol
R/S/R Wo specific Reactive
28.
Do you have reason to believe that DEAN ANDREWS knew
CLAY SHAW before the assassination?
Answer:
No
Evaluation: r/s/a No Specific Reactions
29.
One witness we have located, saw LEE OSWALD with JACK RUBY
at the Carousel Club in Dallas before the assassination.
At that time there were two other men with OSWALD. Do
you have reason to believe that you know who those men
were?
Answer:
NO
w/s/R Evaluation: no Specific Reacture
30.
One of those men with OSWALD (at RUBY's) was a heavy set
Latin type with a scar over his left eye. Do you have an
idea who this heavy set man was?
Answer:
Evaluation:
No
u/s/R No specification
31.
The other man with OSWALD at RUBY's was thin, pale com-
plexioned and had long black hair. Do you have an idea
who that man was?
Answer:
po
MS/R Evaluation: No specificantion
32.
In addition to the witnesses who testified at the hearing,
the State has others who saw CLAY SHAW with OSWALD. On
one of these occasions a tall, thin Cuban with a mustache
was with SAHW and OSWALD. : Do you believe you know who
this tall Cuban would be?
Answer:
Evaluation:
no
w/s/o 10 Specific denition
33.
When LEE OSWALD visited the Cuban Embassy in Mexico city
in the early Fall of 1963, a heavy-set Latin acquaintance
of his was waiting outside for him This man was very
stocky and unusually powerful looking. Do you believe
you know the name of this man?
Answer:
Evaluation:
NO
14/5/R No Spaific Reactions
34.
Do you believe you know who this man worked for?
Answer:
Evaluation:
no
r/s/e No Specific Reaction
35
Did SERGIO ARCACHA visit New Orleans on any occasions in
1963?
Answer:
Evaluation:
No
S/R Specific Realis
36.
According to your knowledge or information, did any of
the following persons have any knowledge of LEE OSWALD's
activities prior to the assassination?
(NOTE: Please circle each name to which an affirmative
answer is given and each name where a negative
answer is accompanied by signs of deception. Add
any relevant comments desired.)
wo a. Roberto Gomez Cortez
100 b. Jesus Guajardo
No f. Nick J. Matrana
NO C. Morris Brownlee
No g. Caridad Lopez (of Dallas)
NOa. d. James Lewallen
No h. Luis Rabel
No e. Dante Marochino
No i. J. B. Dauenhauer
arcume
Extratopy of
Carlos Quirogi test
Scientific Lie Detection
RE: CARLOJ QUIROGA
Examinations
Polygraph, Inc.
Polygraph Examinations
ROY L. JACOB, SR.
P.O. Box 914
Phone HU. 6. 5120
METAIRIE, LA.
Mr. William Gurvich
4/15/67
610 Boydras Street
Suite 309
New Orleans, Louisiana
ARRANGEMENTS:
Carlos Couiraga
At your request, as cuban male age a
residing at one New Orleans, was examined
on the polygraph, a detection of deception technique.
Subject matter statement in Mr. Garrison investigation.
PRE-TEST INTERVIEW:
In the pre-test interview with subject he gave the
following information:
Subject was born in Cuba and has completed /
education Subject married assession 8 and they maR
RESULTS:
Subject was given five(5) test.
TEST#1.
After careful analysis of this subject's first polygram
it is the opinion of the examiner that he gave specific
reactions indicative of deception to the relevant question
under examination:
Question
#4
Deception:
Do you have any first-hand knowledge of the conspiracy
-
to assassinate President Kennedy? Answer No.
TEST#2.
Verify Job Applications - Fidelity Integrity - Frouds - Inventory Shortages - Criminal - Personnel Screening - Portable Equipment Available
EXAMINERS TRAINED BY WORLD FAMOUS
KEELER POLYGRAPH INSTITUTE, OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS
Scientific Lic Detection
Examinations
Polygraph, Inc.
Polygraph Examinations
ROY L. JACOB, SR.
P.O. Box 914
Phone HU. 6 5120
METAIRIE, LA.
Page (2) Carlos Qurioga Cuban Male 30
After careful analysis of this subject's second polygram
it is the opinion of the examiner that he gave specific
reactions indicative of deception to the relevant questions
under examination:
QUESTION #2.
In the Summer of 1963 did you see Lee Oswald with any
Latin decent subject? Answer No.
QUESTION #3.
Isn't it a fact that you knew that the Fair Play for Cuba
activities were merely a cover? Answer No.
QUESTION #5.
Was Oswald in reality part of af an anti-Castro operation?
Answer No.
QUESTION#12.
According to your own knowledge, did David Ferrie know
Sergio Arcacha? Answer No.
TEST #3..
After careful analysis of this subject's third polygram 1t
is the opinion of the examiner that he gave specific reactions
indicative of deception to the relevant questions under ex-
amination:
QUESTION #3.
According to your own knowledge, did David Ferrie know
Guy Banister? Answer No.
QUESTION#6.
Verify Job Applications - Fidelity - Integrity - - Frouds Inventory Shortages - - Criminal Personnel Screening - - Portable Equipment Available
EXAMINERS TRAINED BY WORLD FAMOUS
KEELER POLYGRAPH INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO ILLINOIS
Scientific Lie Detection
Examinations
Polygraph, Inc.
Polygraph Examinations
ROY L. JACOB, SR.
P.O. Box 914
Phone HU. 5120
METAIRIE, LA.
Page (3) Carlos Quiroga Cuban Male 30.
Do you know of any other person that knew Oswald in
1963 other than by chance encounters? Answer No.
QUESTION #10.
ever Prior see to the assassination of the President, did you
assination? Answer No.
any of the guns which were used in his ass-
TEST #4;
After eareful analysis of this subject fourth polygram
it is the opinion of the examiner that he told substanitally
the truth on his fourth examination.
TEST #5
After careful analysis of this subject's fifth polygram
1t 1s the opinion of the examinr that he gave specific
reactions indicative of deception to the relevant name:
According to your knowledge or information, did any of the
following persons have any knowledge of Lee Oswald's act-
ivities prior to the assassination:
Celso Hernandez? Answer No.
Subject stated that the above subject had a fight with
Oswald on Canal Street.
SUBJECT WAS SHOWN PHOTOGRAPHS OF SUBJECTS:
Subject identified the following photographs:
1. David Ferrie
2. Sergio Arcacha
Verify Job Applications Fidelity Integrity- Frauds Inventory Shortages Criminal Personnel Screening - Portable Equipment Available
EXAMINERS TRAINED BY WORLD FAMOUS
KEELER POLYGRAPH INSTITUTE. OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS
Scientific Lie Detection
Examinations
Pólygraph, Inc.
Polygraph Examinations
ROY L. JACOB, SR.
P.O. Box 914
Phone HU. 6-5120
METAIRIE, LA.
Fage (4) Carlos Quiroga Cuban Male 30
CONCLUSIONS:
After careful analysis of this subject's pòlygram it is
the opinion of the the examiner that this subject did not
tell the complete truth during his examination and interr-
ogation.
Respectfully submitted
Roy L. Jacob Sr. Examiner
Verify Job Applications - Fidality - Integrity - Frouds - Inventory Shortages - Criminal - Personnel Screening - Portable Equipment Available
EXAMINERS TRAINED BY WORLD FAMOUS
KEELER POLYGRAPH INSTITUTE. OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS
Nj. David Feirie
10k. Clay Shaw
NOI. Manuel Garcia Gonzalez
Nm. Clyde Johnson
Win. Layton Martens
No. Ocelo Pedros (This is one of names which Emilio Santana
flunked the machine on. Ivon has the
MP. Joseph Milla
proper name)
Ma. Harold Riviere
Dr. William Dalzell
Ws. Alvin Beaubouef
pot: u. t. Celso Jack Ruby Hernandez yes Had Dhall fight with
pov. v. Emilio Santana
NOW. Emilio Torres
NOX. Relatives of Emilio Torres
Noy. Philip Geraci
NZ. Elmer Lee Todd
100a2 Eric Crouchet
Nb2 Louis Breto
Wgc2 Fabregas
kba2 Bill Billeck
poe2 John Irion
Mf2 Louis Breto
Nog2. Marina Oswald
Nh2. Julian Evans
reactions to the said manual
Subject gave no openific
Rry
MEMORANDUM
January 12, 1967
TO:
JIM GARRISON, DISTRICT ATTORNEY
TRAINING CAMPS
N. & LAKE
FROM: DET. C. JONAU & SGT. FENNER SEDGEBEER (Kamp at Big Branch, L.)
RE:
SMITH CASE
Sir:
Det. C. Jonau and Sgt. F. Sedgebeer report of going to
St. Tammany Parish as per instructions. Upon arrival contacted
Deputy Jay Sedgebeer who in turn introduced investigators to
Lt. Hudgeons of the St. Tammany Sheriff's Office.
The purpose of our mission was not disclosed to Lt.
Hudgions but he was very cooperative. The following information
was received from Lt. Hudgeons:
Airline pilots that he personally knows of that live in
that area.
1. Tex Kilcrease - 222 E. 7 th Avenue, Covington, La.
(Also has private detective agency, Lt. Hudgeons says
he does not trust this subject.)
2. John Potts River Rd., Covington
3. Jack McKee. Folsom Rd, La. Highway 25
4. Robert Meyers Hammond Hwy. Covington.
5. Fred Dykes S. Filmore St., Covington
He states there are many more, but he does not know the
names, addresses, etc.
Checked name of Anthony R. St. Philip to no avail.
Deputy Sedgebeer and Lt. Hudgeons stated that the John Birch
Society is very strong in that area.
they
In reference to a house that was raided by FBI and Sheriff's
Office that contained weapons, ammunition, etc., about four years
(Date and be approx
of Cubrens + Minute Men
8/30 n 31,1963. Misture
(Mastly Culans)
-2-
ago, Lt. Hudgeons stated that he remembered the incident but
could not find a police report of same. He stated that the whole
investigation was handled by the Federals. He stated the location
as well as he could remember was at Big Branch Louisiana on
Highway 190 in a small cottage off the Highway. This was checked
out and this house could possibly be on Pontchartrain Drive at
Big Branch off 190. There are a group of houses on this road.
Any further information in regards to the above Lt.
Hudgeons was instructed to call Ivon, Sedgebeer or Jonau.
In reference to training area in St. Tammany no one we
talked with knew of any training grounds in that area. Our
observation was that almost any location in that area could have
been used and been kept secret because of the unpopulated
wilderness of parts of the Parish.
Det. C. Jonau
: gt. F. Sedgebeer
MEMORANDUM
Re: KERRY THORNLEY
March 4, 1968
(GOLDSMITH info)
TO: LOUIS IVON, Chief Investigator
FROM: GARY SANDERS, Investigator
RE:
BERNARD GOLDSMITH
Res: 512 Conti Bus: Tulane Medical
Apt. 4
School Computer
522-7055
Center
865-7711
SUBJECT: KERRY THORNLEY
WILLIAM BRADY
BERNARD ( aka BERNIE ) GOLDSMITH attended the discussion
sessions held at IVAN's and was a frequent customer at the
BOURBON HOUSE) and the RYDER COFFEE HOUSE. GOLDSMITH's name
was given to this office by BARBARA REED.
I interviewed GOLDSMITH at his apartment at 6:00 pm on February
the 29th , 1968.
Between November 1962 and February 1964, GOLDSMITH worked for
the BOEING COMPANY which had its offices at 225 Baronne St.
While working for the BOEING CO., GOLDSMITH lived at either
512 or 517 St. Louis St. ( GOLDSMITH can not remember the address)
for 3 months, Nov. 1962 thru Jan. 1963. GOLDSMITH then moved
to 322 Exchange Place in February of 1963 and remained there
until February 1964.
GOLDSMITH first met KERRY THORNLEY at either the Bourbon House
or at the Ryder Coffee House. GOLDSMITH frequented the Ryder
Coffee House and IVAN's discussion sessions and knows such
people as BARBARA REED, JACK FRAZIER, JACK BURNSIDES, JOHN
KAMAS, ROSS BUCKLEY, HELEN GLADSTONE and WILLIAM BRADY.
GOLDSMITH says that when he met THORNLEY, THORNLEY attempted
to get into a political discussion with GOLDSMITH. GOLDSMITH
said that if they were going to be friends they would have to
refrain from discussing politics (GOLDSMITH says that this was
because THORNLEY was a right-winger, while he was a left-winger).
GOLDSMITH said that discussing politics was "one of his (THORNLEY)
toys". GOLDSMITH described THORNLEY as very far right and in every
conversation THORNLEY was " going to be the arch conservative".
GOLDSMITH says that THORNLEY never mentioned LEE HARVEY OSWALD
before the Assassination. GOLDSMITH never saw OSWALD at any
time either with THORNLEY or alone. GOLDSMITH said that he knew
THORNLEY was writing a book about his experiences in the Marine
Corps. THORNLEY told GOLDSMITH the book was pattered after some-
one. THORNLEY had known in the service (THORNLEY did not indicate
whom). GOLDSMITH said that he and THORNLEY used to sit around
trying to think up a title for THORNLEY's book.
GOLDSMITH says that the night of the Assassination, THORNLEY
went into the Bourbon House (GOLDSMITH was present) and said,
" have you heard the good news". After the Assassination THORNLEY
MEMORANDUM
PAGE 2
RE: BERNARD GOLDSMITH
told GOLDSMITH that he had known OSWALD in the Marines.
GOLDSMITH says that since he had a secret clearance be descided
not to see THORNLEY anymore. The last time GOLDSMITH saw
THORNLEY was in January of 1964. GOLDSMITH says that he never
loaned THORNLEY any money, but if he did THORNLEY must have
paid it back.
GOLDSMITH met WILLIAM BRADY at IVAN's discussion sessions.
GOLDSMITH said of BRADY, " he turns me off,( refering to the
fact that BRADY was gay). When I asked GOLDSMITH what he thought
of BRADY, he replied, # he (BRADY) struck me as somehow dangerous",
"something wasn't right about him (BRADY)". GOLDSMITH describes
BRADY as # radical, extremist, violent segregationist and some-
what gay". GOLDSMITH did not like BRADY because of the afore-
mentioned "qualities" and thusly did not associate with him.
GOLDSMITH says that BRADY actually became violent at some of
the meetings at IVAN's and that BRADY never missed a chance
to jump on a soap box to denounce something or someone.
GOLDSMITH was very cooperative and said that if this office
had any further questions he would be available.
Gary Sanders
CC: Andrew Sciambra
GMS/gs
Re: FERRIE
MEMORANDUM
SSN
March 3, 1967
TO:
JIM GARRISON, DISTRICT ATTORNEY
FROM:
JULIAN R. MURRAY, JR., ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY
RE:
KENNEDY ASSASINATION INVESTIGATION
On March 2, 1967, a MR. LOUIS JONES who is a victim in
a case which I am prosecuting in Section "B" came in to give some
information which he thought might be useful to our office. I
was unable to tell whether or not this information would be of
any value, but I thought I should pass it along to you for what-
ever it's worth.
MR. JONES explained to me that his father is an invalid
and it is therefore necessary that his mother, MRS. WILLIAM B.
JONES, hire male nurses to stay with him at all times. Somewhere
in January of 1965 they hired a male nurse who stayed with them
for about two months. MRS. JONES recalls that when she hired this
subject, he had a letter of recommendation from a person who pur-
ported to be either a psychiatrist or a psychologist whose last
name was FERRIE and who lived on Louisiana Avenue Parkway. The
subject whom she hired gave the name of JIMMIE JOHNSON and at the
time he informed her that he was living with MR. FERRIE at his
apartment on Louisiana Avenue Parkway. She said that she could
not remember much about this subject except that he was very
effeminate. She still has her cancelled check with which she
paid him his salary in January of 1965, and she also has his
social security number which was 420-56-5635.
MR. JONES requests that if anyone in our office cares
to speak with his mother about this matter, that we contact him
first. He pointed out that she was an elderly person with a heart
condition and he is afraid that a lot of questioning would greatly
upset her unless he were present.
R:JHAW
MEMORANDUM
Re: THORNLEY
TO: LOUIS IVON, Chief Investigator
FROM: GARY SANDERS, Investigator
SUBJECT: VIRGINIA JOHNSON CLAY SHAW'S MAID
6434 N. Derbigny St.
279-7228
The following information was obtained from an
interview conducted at the home of VIRGINIA JOHNSON on the
15th of January, 1968 between 8:20 PM and 9:30 PM. Miss Jody
Duek took the notes at this meeting which were used to write
this report.
KERRY THORNLEY'S CANDLORD AT TIME OF ASSASSINATION
MRS. VIRGINIA JOHNSON, Social Security Number
434-36-5071, worked for CLAY SHAW for about 9 years. She quit
during Hurricane "Betsy" because her home had been flooded.
Mrs. JOHNSON is now employed by JACK SPENCER ( JOHN R. SPENCER
1805 Esplanade St. ,943-8236) on Mondays and Thursdays from
9 AM to 5 PM. Mrs. JOHNSON did not recognize the name KERRY
THORNLEY and the only time she ever worked at 1824 Dauphine St.
was when she cleaned up an upstairs apartment. Mrs. JOHNSON
has worked for SPENCER since "Betsy" and she gave no reason for
having left the employment of CLAY SHAW. She has also worked
for the " Plantation Home " in the French Quarter.
Mrs. JOHNSON said that she had made the black robe and
hood for SHAW before Mardi Gras of 1959 or 1960 and she would
press these garments before each Carneval season.
Mrs. JOHNSON said she would recognize someone if they
had visited SHAW, but she admitted she did not see many of his
visitors. She said SHAW was always very nice to her and always
treated her well. She was very surprised to hear that SHAW had
been arrested. Mrs. JOHNSON said she had never heard the name
BERTRAND and had never seen any letter addressed to CLAY BERTRAND
at the Dauphine Street address. ( Check memo on VIRGINIA JOHNSON
relating to an interview with persons at Balthazor Fabric Store
on Franklin Ave. were witnesses state that Mrs. JOHNSON did
see a letter addressed to CLAY BERTRAND, 1313 Dauphine St. New
Orleans, La.) Mrs. JOHNSON describes her encounter at Balthazor
Fabrics as a laughing and Joking session in which she and some
of the salesladies talked about SHAW and the fact that she had
worked for him and had made his black robe and hood.
Mrs. JOHNSON says that she did see JACK SPENCER at
SHAW'S house , but never the reverse. She said that both SPENCER's
and SHAW's dogs were the same breed, Weimaraner.
Mrs. JOHNSON said SHAW was visited by a Mr. J.B. or
J.C. on many occasions. This individual was employed at the
International Trade Mart and his last name began with a "D".
One person that visited SHAW was a MISS LYONS, an older woman
who had grey hair, but was still very attractive. Most of the
women who visited SHAW were elderly and the men were generally
in their twenties.
VIRGINIA JOHNSON
January 16,1968
page 2
I showed Mrs. JOHNSON my picture file and she did
seem to recognize LAYTON MARTENS and TOMMY COX mainly from the
general description of " light hair and skinny ". She did not
remember seeing any Cubans at SHAW's house and never saw FERRIE,
OSWALD or any other persons that have been publicized on tele-
vision.
Mrs. JOHNSON's working schedule was daily and she
would arrive at SHAW's at about 3 PM when she would clean the
apartment and prepare SHAW's dinner at about 5PM. She generally
left between 5 and 6 PM so she was not in a position to have
known who SHAW had as visitors during the evening hours.
One year ( unknown ) when Mrs. JOHNSON went on a
two week vacation, SHAW hired a ONELL BELL ( 1815 Delery St.
279-6647 ) for 2 weeks to take her place. When Mrs. JOHNSON
returned she said SHAW had been very dissatisfied with Mrs. BELL,
but he did not say why.
The method that SHAW used to pay MRS. JOHNSON is also
very interesting since on the surface it looks as though SHAW may
have been using some illegal tax deductions. SHAW paid VIRGINIA
JOHNSON $35.00 a week by check made out to her. SHAW also gave
her a check for $20.00 a week, also made out to her, for groceries
and other items for the house. This is a total of $55.00 a week
that Shaw could claim on his income tax as salary paid to MRS.
JOHNSON MRS. JOHNSON asked SHAW about this arrangement and he
said he was paying her Social Security so she did not have to
worry.
It might be interesting to find out if he was
claiming the $55.00 per week as a deduction rather than the $35.00
a week.
Re: SHAW
( Bernadas Weise)
MEMORANDUM
May 5, 1969
TO:
JIM GARRISON, District Attorney'
FROM:
ANDREW J. SCIAMBRA, Assistant District Attorney
RE:
SHAW LEADS II FILE
(MAX HILL LEAD)
Lt. Fred Soule and I interviewed JULES WEISS and
MIKE BERNADAS in regard to OSWALD coming into their store in 1963
(July) seeking employment. WEISS informed me that OSWALD just
walked into his store one day seeking a job as a photographer.
WEISS said that he never did introduce himself and merely said
that he had experience in photography and was seeking work in
that field. WEISS said that he told him that he did not need
any help and referred him to MAX HILL and JACK BEACH, 709 Royal
Street. WEISS said that OSWALD thanked him and before he left
asked him for fifty cents. WEISS said that this surprised him
because OSWALD was neat and did not look like a panhandler.
He said OSWALD did not ask for full-time employment but said that
he was looking for part-time work to hold him over. WEISS said
that he never told anyone about this incident as it was quite
insignificant. He said that after the assassination he recognized
OSWALD's picture as the person who came into his store looking
for a job, however, he said that he still didn't tell anyone
about this incident.
WEISS said that sometime in early December, the
FBI came to his place of business and asked him if OSWALD had
tried to get a job from him. He told the FBI that he thought
that the person whom he had talked to was OSWALD, but that
OSWALD never introduced himself. The FBI told him that they
knew it was OSWALD because OSWALD had used BERNADAS & WEISS as a
reference on one of his job applications. The FBI said that
OSWALD had put on the application that he worked there for three
months. WEISS said that he gave the FBI the same story that he
gave us and said that the FBI thanked him and that was the last
he heard about the matter.
We then talked to BERNADAS and BERNADAS was not
working there at the time and therefore could be of no help in
this matter.
WEISS informed us that he knows CLAY SHAW from
seeing him around the Quarter and that on two occasions SHAW came
to a book review party that he had given for two authors. He
says that he has never seen SHAW with OSWALD or FERRIE and that he
has never seen FERRIE in person and that he only saw OSWALD on
this one occasion.
Memo dated 3/28/69
ANDREW J. SCIAMBRA
Ro: may Hell
fead # XIV
For
MEMORANDUM
Re: Banister
October 9, 1968
+R+ wing
TO:
JIM GARRISON, District Attorney
FROM:
ANDREW J. SCIAMBRA, Assistant District Attorney
RE:
Interview with HENRY O. PALMER, Clinton, La.
I talked to Mr. PALMER in relation to information concerning GUY
Banister
BANISTER. PALMER told me that he and BANISTER were together in
the Army in 1944, stationed in Orlando, Florida. PALMER said that
army
BANISTER was doing intelligence work in the Army. PALMER said
that after he separated from BANISTER in Florida, he (PALMER)
went to Japan and never saw BANISTER again. He said he has never
seen BANISTER in Clinton, Louisiana, and has no knowledge about
BANISTER and RATLIFF trying to organize the Klan around Clinton
and Jackson, Louisiana.
He said RICHARD VAN BUSKIRK was in town for a couple of days about
a month ago. He said VAN BUSKIRK could give us some information
about BANISTER. I contacted VAN BUSKIRK's daughter, MRS. BRUNT,
at 683-5864, and she told me that VAN BUSKIRK's present address
is:
RICHARD VAN BUSKIRK
c/o Crystal Springs Trailer Park
Route #7
Lafayette, Louisiana
Also, MELBA CAVANAUGH who was a close friend of GLORIA WILSON's is
back from Alaska and living in Baton Rouge somewhere. I talked
with JOE COOPER in Baton Rouge and COOPER told me that he could
give me the names of some people who could give us a lot of
information on BANISTER and also that he would let us look over
a file that he has on DR. CARL MCINTYRE. He said HOUSTON MARVIS
or a man named JONES may be able to give us some information
about RATLIFF.
District Attorney's REFUSAL Slip
File
District
1st
ACCUSED
Guy Banister am n
Police Item Nok No 12634-63
CHARGE (S) : R.S none
Date of Offense 11/22/63
Date of Refusal 12/8/63
Reason Insuff Evid
No Evid. of Crim Negl
Ref. to Mun. Ct
REASONS
Verting July mantin class not much to
prosent See statements attached
Ermansas
Refused By:
A** stant District Attorney
lov 22 8 les PH 196'
COMPLAINT
B'CAST REPORT 10-97
DISTRICT OR
BUREAU & CAR #
10+11 ITEM # K-12634
LOCATION
13H N. Prieur H.
SIGNAL
1/43 Beating
1533 PR # - 19
CODE 1-2-3
COMPL. & ADDRESS mr Jack martin
yo 9
TAILS
Bagtist Hosp By Hosp
ord
C-322 C- 322
22
Nev
DISPOSITION
IF "OTHER" EXPLAIN
NO CAR
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ADVISED
HANDLED
COPY
RTF
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FORM #12
C-10
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of Oswold file
MEMORANDUM
August 31, 1967
TO:
JIM GARRISON, District Attorney
FROM:
TOM BETHELL
RE:
Interview with Mrs. A. C. JOHNSON
-
After returning from Ft. Worth with Bill Boxley on
Thursday, August 24, 1967, Boxley and I visited 1026 N. Beckley
Avenue, where we interviewed Mrs. A. C. JOHNSON.
As she was preparing supper we stayed only a short time
to avoid antagonizing her in case we wanted to see her again.
She furnished the information that OSWALD would use the
pay telephone in thehall "2 or 3 times a day" and would speak
Russian.
She told us that OSWALD kept his room neatly despite the
fact that he ate make-shift meals in there. She added that she
was surprised that they discovered a pistol holster in his room
and then went on to explain that of course she never would do such
a thing as to look through his dresser drawers. It was clear to
Boxley and I that she obviously had looked through his things,
otherwise, she would have had no basis for being surprised at the
discovery of the holster.
Mrs. JOHNSON also said that in the turmoil in OSWALD's
room following the assassination, one of the curtain rods was bent
or pulled down by a detective.
It was noted that access to OSWALD's room is via the
main living room, where residents frequently sit and watch
television. In other words, OSWALD did not have a private
entrance to his room.
Agency
NA Number N8640
Expiration MAY 27 1968
I, a resident of ORLEANS
Parish, apply to use the New
Orleans Public Library I agree to observe the rules of the Library and to
be responsible for all items borrowed on my card.
Print
Name
Oswald LEE
11.
Last
First
Middle
Home address 4907 MAGAZINE Phone -
Occupation Mechanic Employer Wor. B. Reily co
Business address 640 MAGAZINE Business phone 2.
Signature
You Swort
(OVER: Students Only)
5-16/
STUDENTS ONLY
Name of school
Name of parent
Where parent works
-
111 *ON
COMMISSION EXHIBIT 777
644
Re:Guy GUY BANISTER
January 18, 1967
Dalaa
TO:
JIM GARRISON, DISTRICT ATTORNEY
Re:
files
GB
FROM:
GEORGE ECKERT, INVESTIGATOR
RE:
INTERVIEW OF SAM NEWMAN, W/M, Age 50 Years.
(Former owner of Newman Bldg., 544 Camp St.)
I interviewed Mr. Sam Newman at 1:30 P.M. on
January 18, 1967 with regard to Guy Banister & Associates and
the "Free Cuban Movement".
Mr. Newman told me at this time that he didn't have
any of his records as he had given all of them to the F.B.I. and
the U. S. Secret Service. Mr. Newman asked me whether or not the
Office of the District Attorney or I was investigating the death
of President Kennedy. I told him it was something stemming from
this. He then told me he had heard about this before and that one
Jack Martin told him that he would probably be called upon to be
interviewed.
Mr. Newman told me that when he bought the building
from Metro Realty (Mr. Copping), Guy Banister had already been a
tenant in the building; that he could not remember any dates be-
cause he didn't have his records; but that during the time he
owned the building Guy Banister had owed him back rent (amount
unknown); that when Banister got into trouble with the Internal
Revenue, all the furniture in Banister's office had been seized,
including the files. Mr. Newman purchased all the office furniture,
including 5 filing cabinets, from the Internal Revenue hoping he
could recover some of the money owed to him for back rent. The
office furniture he kept and he can't remember what had happened
to it. The 5 files (metal cabinets and contents were sold to Mrs.
Banister for $25.00 (date unknown). She had them removed from his
building on Camp Street to her home on Canal Boulevard.
Mr. Newman said that he could not remember the names
of the people who were his tenants back in 1963, but that many of
them owed him back rent when they left. Mr. Newman also told me
that the Federal people and the Secret Service have questioned him
on several occasions about the "Fair Play For Cuba Movement" and
the people involved, and that they would have all of the infor-
mation. He said he could not remember anything at all about 1962
and 1963 without his records.
It is the opinion of the interviewer that Mr. Newman
was annoyed by the interview and it appeared that he did not want
to become involved in this investigation, therefore, the interview
was very short.
GEORGE ECKERT
MEMORANDUM
Re: FERRIE
February 3, 1967
TO:
JIM GARRISON, DISTRICT ATTORNEY
FROM:
AGENT #1
RE:
SMITH CASE
ALVIN BEAUBOUEF visited DAVE at his office on about
January 26th. They had a brief conversation and BEAUBOUEF left.
I think the reason for his wanting to see DAVE was because of
some kind of mix-up with the flight log books. The FAA called
BEAUBOUEF and wanted to see his flight log book because they
thought he had cheated on some flying time. The FAA checked into
it and found out that BEAUBOUEF'S log book didn't match with
DAVE'S. So, they called in the last three people that DAVE
signed the log books for private pilot's licenses, and their log
books didn't match with what DAVE had in his. So, DAVE buys new
log books. They all get together to make the new log books match
DAVE'S. DAVE forged two or three names.
Q. Are they still working on these log books of DAVE'S?
A. Yes. They were working on them last night. They
only have one to go.
Q. Has Beaubouef been around lately?
A. No. This is the first time I've seen him in
approximately two months.
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"ocrText": "BANISTER, Guy\nSEPTEMBER - Cont.\nSunday\n8\nMonday\n9\nAt library\nTuesday\n10\nFiled unemployment claim.\nWednesday\n11\nThursday\n12\nFriday\n13\nSaturday\n14\nSunday\n15\nMonday\n16\nTuesday\n17\nAt Mexican Consulate; Filed unemployment claim.\nWednesday\n18\nThursday\n19\nAt library\nFriday\n20\nRuth Paine arrived in N.O. (or on Sep. 21)\nSaturday\n21\nRuth Paine with Oswalds\nSunday\n22\nRuth Paine with Oswalds\nMonday\n23\nRuth Paine left with Marina.\nTuesday\n24\nFiled unemployment claim; changed address\nat Post Office.\nWednesday 25\nCashed check. Left N.O. en route for Mexico.\n-9-\nRE: BANISTER\nStatement and Interview with Mr. I. E. Nitschke in the office of\nMr. Jim Garrison, District Attorney on Tuesday, January 17, 1967\nat approximately 1:00 p.m.\nMy name is I. E. Nitschke. I live at 559 Focis in Metairie. My\nunlisted telephone number is 831-1648. My office phone at Michoud\nis 255-2711.\nDuring the latter part of 1961 I was contacted by William Guy\nBannister, then in the private investigative business in the City\nof New Orleans, Louisiana. At this time Bannister invited me to\nparticipate in a bid for the security contract at the forthcoming\nreactivation of the Michoud assembly facility in New Orleans,\nLouisiana. Bannister's interest was in submitting a bid for the\nsecurity as a part of the Housekeeping Program at this facility.\nI arrived in New Orleans about mid-November, 1961. Subsequently,\nBannister and I submitted a bid through several prime contractors\nfor the security contract at Michoud. In the interim, while we\nwere awaiting the awarding of the Housekeeping or support services\ncontract, I maintained a desk in Mr. Bannister's office, then\nsituated at 531 Lafayette in New Orleans.\nI recall on one occasion, possibly the early part of December,\n196 when I returned to Bannister's office there were several\nmale persons then engaged in a conference with Bannister. Sub-\nsequently, I was invited into his office and was introduced to\nfour or possibly five males, all of whom from appearance appeared\nto be of Latin extraction. I was later advised that these men\nwere Cubans that had sought refuge in the United States. After\nI was introduced to these men it was explained to those present\nthat I had been considered a firearms expert in my many years\nwith the Federal Bureau of Investigation; that I had an excellent\nunderstanding of nomenclature and the mechanics, etc. of various\ntypes of firearms. The conversation after the introduction\ndeveloped quickly into the fact that the persons in Bannister's\noffice were interested in obtaining firearms of many varieties,\nmainly shoulder weapons, machine guns or semi-automatic weapons.\nThey were interested in suppliers of this type of weapon. I\nrecall having stated that Klein's of Chicago, Illinois, a whole-\nsale firearms house, would be one source; that a firm in Hollywood,\nCalifornia, the name of which I do not recall at the moment, were\nimporters of many foreign types of weapons, primarily shoulder\nweapons and this might possibly be a source.\nThe taller of the men that were in Bannister's office had a full\nhead of black hair. He appeared to be between 6' and possibly\n6'2\" tall. His lips were full or thick. He appeared to be the\n5=AR\nleader in the conversation. There was a short, stocky man that\nPage Two\nStatement and interview with I. E. Nitschke,\nI estimated to weigh from 210 to possibly 230 pounds with obviously\nlarge arms and neck. The others were lighter in complexion and\nall definitely appeared to be Latins.\nI have been shown a photograph in which the subjects are numbered\nfrom 1 to 7 and bears Exhibit A, my name and the date 1/17/67.\nThe subject identified with the numeral 3 appears extremely similar\nif not identical to the person I have referred to here as the\nshorter and heavier built of the Latins in Bannister's office.\nThe photograph bearing Nitschke-C with the date 1/17/67 is a\ngenerally good likeness of one of the men in Bannister's office.\nI recall that he had a more or less hairline mustache, black hair\nand was perhaps as light or lighter in skin coloring than any of\nthe others in the office. He did not appear to inject himself in\nthe conversation but sparsely and that for the most part was in\nSpanish between himself and the others in Bannister's office.\nThe conversation for the most part was directed to an individual\nhereinafter described as D-3 in photograph Nitschke-D dated 1/17/67.\nThe man in photo Nitschke-D appears to have a very striking\nresemblance to the tall man that I have previously described.\nNot too long after I had entered Bannister's office, the subject\nD-3 took a tablet on Bannister's desk and with a pen drew a rough\nsketch of a silencer adaptable to a rifle. At this point subject\nD-3 asked me specifically if I knew where silencers could be\nacquired that might be attached to rifles and or machine guns.\nMy reply to this query was in the negative. He then completed\nthe sketch that he had started and asked if the writer had any\nknowledge of where silencers could be made. To this query I\nreplied that they could perhaps be made by any welder or machinist\nthat was capable of doing precision work; that I knew of no such\nperson. The gist of the conversation in Bannister's office on\nthis occasion was primarily concerned with the acquisition of, as\nI gathered, a reasonable quantity of weapons. The purpose for\nthese weapons was not mentioned during my presence. Whether it\nwas later discussed, I am not aware of.\nAfter the departure of this group, which was late in the afternoon\nas I recall, I was told by Bannister that the subject D-3 was\nexceptionally adept in guerilla warfare and guerilla-type tactics.\nNOTE: Here Mr. Garrison and Mr. Nitschke discussed the difference\nin appearance of subject D-3 from the rest of the group, remarking\nthat it was rather unusual for a guerilla fighter to be so well\ndressed and well groomed.\nPage Three\nStatement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.\nI have. been shown a photograph identified as Nitschke-B with the\ndate 1/17/67 thereupon and this is a photograph bearing New Orleans\nPolice Department #107062. This man I met on one occasion in\nobview\nBannister's office. Again, this was very late in the afternoon.\nI would say approximately 5:00 p.m. I was attracted to the physical\nFERRIE\nappearance of this man by what appeared to be false hair and/or\nfalse eyelashes and his face appeared as though he had some type\nof make-up thereupon. The coat that he is wearing in the photo-\ngraph even appears similar to the one that he was wearing when\nI recall having met him. This man was accompanied by a smaller\nperson in stature and apparently younger in years and the gist\nof his conversation with Bannister when I was introduced was to\nthe effect that he had just returned from a trip to South America.\nI am not certain of the country that he had visited. The person\nwith him at this time spoke one or two words of Spanish. The\nperson identified in this photograph appeared to speak Spanish,\nin the words that he used, seemingly fluently. I do not know\nthe purpose of the visit of this individual to Bannister's office\nbut he did have some conversation with Bannister personally\nfollowing my introduction to him. I suppose that he was possibly\nin the office at best about one-half hour. I have been advised\nthat this man's name is David W. Ferrie.\nGARRISON:\nThe man that you described as D-3 in Nitschke-D who is standing\nwith the group with Lee Oswald -- is there anything else before\nwe depart from the pictures that you can recall? He is extremely\ninteresting from the conversation which you described and from\nBannister's description of him. Did he wear, for example, jewelry\nof any sort?\nNITSCHKE:\nNo, I don't even recall a ring. I will say this, he was neat\nand well-groomed in a dark suit and dark tie.\nGARRISON:\nDid he speak English?\nNITSCHKE:\nYes. Reasonably well, too, by the way.\nGARRISON:\nDo you recall if he had a nickname?\nPage Four\nStatement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.\nNITSCHKE:\nNo.\nGARRISON:\nLet me ask about the circumstances of the meeting with these men.\nWas this in the inner office?\nNITSCHKE:\nIt was in Bannister's own private office.\nGARRISON:\nDid he shut the door?'\nNITSCHKE:\nDefinitely. The door was definitely closed. There was only one\ndoor and it was definitely closed.\nGARRISON:\nAre any of these names of Cuban individuals familiar?\nRogelio Cisceros Diaz? Also known as Eugenio.\nNITSCHKE:\nNo.\nGARRISON:\nHow about the nickname Toro?\nNITSCHKE:\nNo.\nGARRISON:\nManual Gonzalez?\nNITSCHKE:\nGonzalez. Yes.\nPage Five\nStatement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.\nGARRISON:\nDoes that name come back at all looking at Nitschke-A?\nNITSCHKE:\nMr. Gonzalez could be possibly this \"3\" subject in Nitschke-A\nphotograph here. I don't want to be positive.\nGARRISON:\nBut that is your impression?\nNITSCHKE:\nYes.\nGARRISON:\nHow about the nickname Toro?\nNITSCHKE:\nNo, I don't associate it. I don't know how many timesBannister\nhad met these men previously but some of them had definitely met\nwith him before that date.\nGARRISON:\nThere was a relationship?.\nNITSCHKE:\nYes. He had met some, if not all of them previously.\nGARRISON:\nHe knew them by name?\nNITSCHKE:\nYes. He introduced me, but meeting them only one time the names\ndid not register.\nGARRISON:\nHow about the name Juan Johnny Martin?\nPage Six\nStatement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.\nNITSCHKE:\nNo. The name Martin is rather common.\nIVON:\nHow about Layton Martens? (showing photograph)\nNITSCHKE:\nThis boy, I am wondering if he was with Ferrie that afternoon.\nGARRISON:\nHe was about 17 years old at that time.\nNITSCHKE:\nThe boy with him wasn't too old. That looks like the boy with\nFerrie. I gathered that the fellow with Ferrie had physically\nbeen with Ferrie from wherever he came from in South America.\nThat young man looks like he could have been the man.\nGARRISON:\nIs this boy generally about the age and type?\nNITSCHKE:\nHis haircut was short but whether it was a butch cut or not\nI do not know. This might have been the boy that was with him\nbut I don't want to say. Nitschke-E, New Orleans Police Depart-\nment photograph #105377 might possibly have been the person\naccompanying Ferrie on the occasion when I was in Bannister's\noffice.\nIVON:\nAmelio Santana? (showing photograph)\nNITSCHKE:\nNo. He doesn't look familiar to me.\nPage Seven\nStatement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.\nIVON:\nMelvin Seeling? (showing photograph)\nNITSCHKE:\nNo. Not by name. He doesn't look at all familiar. No. The\nfellows that were in there, their hair was reasonably well-groomed.\nIt wasn't shaggy.\nIVON:\nMiguel Torres? (showing photograph)\nNITSCHKE:\nHe could have well been one of them. This fellow bears some\nphysical resemblance to one of the men. -I am thinking about his\nhair. None of them were too old. (Reference here made to photo-\ngraph Nitschke-F.)\nGARRISON:\nDidn't it seem rather odd to you after having known Guy Bannister\nso long and considering his background that he would be surrounded\nby these particular Cubans that you have described?\nNITSCHKE:\nTo be frank with you, it did. They certainly were the type of\npeople that I would not care to be associated with.\nGARRISON:\nOf those individuals you described, was there one who seemed\nhead of all the others, as their leader, in conversation?\nNITSCHKE:\nVery positively. The one that I have identified here as D-3.\nVery definitely the leader of the conversation. The polished\nlooking fellow. When he spoke the others listened. When he\nhad the floor, they didn't interrupt him.\nPage Eight\nStatement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.\nGARRISON:\nDid Guy indicate in any way the Latin country with regard to\nD-3 and his guerilla tactics?\nNITSCHKE:\nHe mentioned Cuba very definitely. In fact, Guy said, can you\nimagine meeting that fellow out in a dark alley somewhere. He\nwas a wiry, dark fellow.\nIVON:\nMorris Brownlee?\nNITSCHKE:\nNot by name, no. Definitely not.\nIVON:\n(Showing picture) I do not have this man's name.\nNITSCHKE:\nNo. I think there was only one or two that had a mustache and\nthey were not this heavy. More like hairline.\nIVON:\nMiguel Mariana Cruz. (showing photograph)\nNITSCHKE:\nAssociation starts to bring back some reflection. There was one\nof these fellows as I recall that had some pimples on his face\nbut I don't believe it was this young man here.\nIVON:\nAlvin Beaubouef. (no photograph)\nNITSCHKE:\nNo. Name doesn't register.\nThe gist of the whole thing was the acquisition of weapons and\nsilencers. While I was in their presence that was their sole\nreason for being there and what was ahead of it or behind it,\nPage Nine\nStatement and interview with I. E. Nitschke.\nI don't know. Somewhere in that conversation, and this may not\nbe a direct quote, money did not seem to be any object - for\nwhatever that's worth.\nI might interject that after the incident I have described,\nBannister advised me that it was his understanding that there\nwould be training areas physically located in various sections\nof the United States and as I recall he principally mentioned\nthe South, where exiles and people sympathetic to the Cuban pro-\ngram would be trained in guerilla warfare and guerilla tactics.\nHe mentioned that the individual that I have tentatively identified\nin photograph Nitschke-D as D-3 was the person that would lead\nthe training of these people.\nADDENDUM:\nSince dictating the above I have been shown photograph Nitschke-G\ndated 1/17/67. This is a police photograph of Alvin R. Beaubouef.\nThere is a very striking resemblance between this photograph and\nthe man that I observed in Bannister's office with Ferrie, des-\ncribed in photograph Nitschke-B. I got the impression from the\nsmall amount of conversation that I overheard that both Ferrie\nand Beaubouef had within a matter of hours returned from some\nunknown country in South America. I am positive of the fact\nthat they had been to some South American country, the name of\nwhich I am not positive.\nI. E. Nitschke\nDate\nMEMORAN UM\nAny\nRe: BANISTER\nJune 1, 1967\nTO:\nLOUIS IVON, Chief Investigator\nFROM:\nCLIENCY NAVARRE & KENT SIMMS, Investigators\nRE:\nInterview Mrs. Mary Helen Brengel\nBusiness -\n929 Howard Avenue\nThird Floor\nResidence-\n2622 Joseph Street\nOfficers C. Navarre and K. Simms went to 929 Howard\nAvenue, Mathes, Bergman, Favrot & Associates, on June 1, 1967, at\n2:00 P.M., and interviewed MRS. MARY HELEN BRENGEL relative to\ninformation she may have pertaining to MR. GUY BANNISTER.\nMRS. BRENGEL stated that she was employed by MR. GUY\nBANNISTER from October 15, 1963, until December 10, 1963. During\nthis time MR. BANNISTER was using a vehicle which was the property\nof MRS. LANNE, the mother of JOHN LANNE. MRS. BRENGEL related\nthat MR. LANNE would arrive at MR. BANNISTER'S office and tell MR.\nBANNISTER that the car needed gas or that it needed oil. And on\none occasion that it needed air in the tires. MRS. BRENGEL\nrelated that it appeared this vehicle was being checked frequently\nbecause of an impending unannounced trip of some sort,\nMRS. BRENGEL also related that since MR. BANNISTER was\nseparated from his wife, he had a lot of personal things stored at\nthe office and in particular was several rifles, three or four.\nNow and then a MR GUYMAN would come into the office and talk to\nMR. BANNISTER about these rifles and they would hold them and\nexamine them. DELPHINE ROBERTS, who was also employed in MR.\nBANNISTER'S office at this time, told MRS. BRENGEL that MR. GUYMAN\nwas MR. BANNISTER'S gun expert.\nMRS. BRENGEL stated that during her employment there,\nMR. BANNISTER was dickering with the Mississippi Test Sight for\nthe contract of guarding the facility. In attempting this, he\nformed a group comprised of ex-FBI men and it is believed one of\nthem was named REGIS KENNEDY.\nMRS. BRENGEL further stated that the name of DAVE FERRIE\ncame up during the time MR. BANNISTER was securing information to\nprevent the deportation of CARLOS MARCELLO. She could not\nremember any particulars about this name.\nMRS. BRENGEL related that the day of the assassi\nshe and DELPHINE ROBERTS were in MR. BANNISTER'S office MR\nBANNISTER did not come in at all that day. DELPHINE received a\nphone call to inform her that the President was assassina ted and\nto turn on the T.V. When DELPHINE ROBERTS turned on the T.V., she\njumped with joy and said \"I am glad.\"\nMRS. BRENGEL stated that she had the opportunity to go\ninto the files and could remember that they were of the FBI type\ncontaining identification of all known communists, integrationists,\nand Cuban exiles. Also facts and identification of persons\ninvolved in the present political picture at this time,\n-2-\nDELPHINE ROBERTS told MRS. BRENGEL that MR. BANNISTER\ngave her specific instructions what should be done with certain\nfiles in the event of his death.\nMRS. BANNISTER sold most of the files to KENT COURTNEY\naccording to MRS. BRENGEL.\nMRS. BRENGEL stated that JERRY and VICKI BROWN of 1809\nRobert Street observed a light in MR. BANNISTER'S office late on\nthe night of his death.\nMRS. BRENGEL stated that the day of MR. BANNISTER'S\ndeath, it was a Saturday morning, DELPHINE ROBERTS tried to call\nhim by phone and received no answer. DELPHINE ROBERTS then\ncontacted an FBI man who accompanied her to MR. BANNISTER to find\nhim dead. MRS. BRENGEL states that it appeared she knew before-\nhand and wanted a witness present.\nMRS. BRENGEL could not identify any names of persons\ninvolved in the probe with MR. BANNISTER. She agreed to view\nphotos at a later date and stated she would cooperate fully with\nthis office.\nCIA\nAnti-Castro raids continue\nCuban Exiles Have Lear\nBy ROBERT K. BROWN\nused by CIA agent\nskiing.\nA\nNTI-CASTRO military activity in the Carib-\nbean and Miami area has reached an all-\nincident a\ntime low. Even an occasional mention of\nsentment it\ncaused the C.A to\nlarge training camps and/or impending anti-Castro\nthe \"Florida\" or\noperations are now hard to find in once rumor-\nAnd once again the\nridden Miami.\nrendered the ship\nPresent counter-revolutionary operations are\nby burning out be\nlimited to a few surreptitious runs conducted by\nand a generator. 0\nsmall groups operating independently of the Cen-\nof the \"Florida's\"\ntral Intelligence Agency, which provides food,\nhas been negofiati\nmedicine, agents and a handful of weapons for\nCIA to repair the\nWith the money e\nthen contacts in Cuba. Three or four organiza-\nsuch a repair job.\ntions give classes on demolition and other military\nida's\" crew hope\nsubjects in their Tices or maintain scraggly train-\nsmaller ship with\ning camps where sip men exist on rice, beans,\ncan conduct their\nhope and the pleasure of cursing the CIA. Since\ntions without\nthe abortive invasion of Cuba which CIA spon-\nance.\"\nsored in April, 1961, that agency has become al-\nCIA personnel,\nmost as unpopular as Fidel Castro with large num-\nto the \"Florida\"\nbers of Cubans.\ncrew, are \"stupi\nCIA sponsored operations\nenced and have\nagainst Castro started slack-\nto buy supplies, the exiles\nThey charge tha\nening off in January of this\nlook to the CIA for weapons,\nman of the CI\nyear before the foreign min-\nmedicine, foods. ships and all\nWest-code name\nisters' meeting at Punta del\nthe other materials necessary\nis an ex-Agricult\nto keep a revolution going. Cu-\nment official who\nEste. Failure to initiate oper-\nations after Punta del Este\nban exiles who are not cor-\ning about marine\nwas explained by pointing\nrupt. who are daily risking\nand that \"Gordo\nout that nothing should be\ntheir lives for freedom. say\nhead of marine 0\ndone which might substan-\nthey have been unable to\nANTI-CASTRO FORCES TRAIN IN SWAMPS.\nthe Miami area\ntiate Castro's charge of re-\nraise any sizable amounts of\nmanded anything\nnewed United States aggres-\nmoney from American citizens\nSmall commando raids are effective.\n50-ft. yacht.\nsion before the United Nations.\nor industry.\nAnother Cuban\nThese exiles say that the\nHere is an account of one\nby Roberto Bombino who had\nferent organizatio\nAfter that \"crisis\" passed,\nCIA pays a monthly lump sum\nsuch complaint:\nrecently defected from the\nCIA \"safe house'\nthe Cubans were pacified with\n-some estimate It at be.\nthe story that it would take\nSometime ago, a Cuban mil-\ncommand of the Cuban frigate\nlocated on a veg\ntime for new CIA boss John\ntween $100,000 and $200,000-\nlionaire bought a small World\n\"Marti.\" This same frigate\noutside of Miami\nMcCone to orient himself.\nto the \"Consejo\" which is lead\nWar II surplus warship\nand its commander. Bombino,\ncame obvious. he\nby Dr. Miro Cardona, former\n(which we'll call the \"Flor-\nhad chased and attempted to\nsurrounding nei\nThen It was said that the\nPremier of Cuba under Castro.\nDefense Intelligence Agency\nida\") and installed the most\nsink the \"Florida\" three\ngrowing vegetable\nCardona then parcels the\nadvanced navigational equip-\nmonths earlier according to\nthe primary put\n(DIA) was taking over the\noperational missions of the\nmoney out to the varlous or.\nment and engines available.\none of the former crew mem-\nfarm's new owner\nganizations that make up the\nAfter the boat was equipped\nbers.\n\"vegetable farme\nCentral Intelligence Agency.\nIf the Cubans have been un-\n\"Consejo,\" they report.\nto the tune of better than\nThe American captain. who\nbig fuss about\nimpressed by these expla-\nOne group which recently\n$50,000. the CIA moved in\nwe'll call \"Johnny,\" told me\nplanes fiying ove\nnations. they have been\nbroke with the Consejo re-\nand offered to take care of\nhe was offered a year's pay\nage.\neven more unimpressed with\nportedly received a monthly\noperational expenses - salary\nand a trip around the world,\nWhen one of\nthe CIA itself-its operating\nlump sun of $2,070. This was\nfor the 20-man crew, repairs,\nor a job as port engineer of\nasked his Inst\ntechniques, personnel, accom-\nsupposed to pay the rent, sal-\nammunition. fuel. etc., as long\nKey West If he would with.\nhis M-3 submach\nplishments. reliability and its\naries of the department heads\nas they were allowed to con-\ndraw from the \"Florida\"\nfired single sh\nrelations with the Cuban exile\nof the organization and office\ntrol the ship.\nquietly. With the rest of his\nstructor replied.\nmovement in general.\nsupplies.\nThe millionaire, who by this\ncrew listening, \"Johnny\" told\nprohibits firing\nSeveral Americans, who\ntime was no longer a million-\nme how the new, more pliable\nweapons In the\nThe e tight say CIA main-\nhelped set up a training camp\ntime had no alternative but to\ncrew had promptly run the\ntheless, The Cul\ncontrol over the\nin the Everglades, reported\n-\n\"Flor!da\" aground while test-\nCIA expected\nmajority of anti-Castro organi-\nthat as soon as It became\nIng her.\nCubans to risk\nzations by Its dispensation of\nFriction developed between\nknown that a training camp\n\"Since we were the only\nwith weapons will\nfunds. guns and its system of\nthe ship's Cuban crew which\nwas in operation and young\nones that could run her,\"\nwere not comple\ninformants which do not spy\nwas captained by an Ameri-\nCubans were clamoring to\nJohnny laughed. \"the CIA re-\nMembers of ye\non Castro but on the counter-\ncan and the CIA representa-\nsign up, the CIA contacted the\nluctantly gave the \"Florida\"\nganization bitter\ntives in Key West after\nrevolutionaries.\nexile organization sponsoring\nback to us, After making ex-\nwere given cast\nseveral missions failed due to\nMoney. the lifeblood of any\nthe camp through Cardona\ntensive repairs. we left on a\nson submachine\nrevolutionary movement, has\nfaulty or incomplete CIA in-\nand promised to contribute a\nmission to Cuba. A few miles\nment to undergrt\nbeen in short supply. During\ntelligence reports. The CIA\nout of Key West, the auto-\nCuba. When -2°\nsizable sum of money to the\nthe successful 1959 revolt\nthen attempted to force re.\norganization if it would take\nmatic pilot broke and we had\ntempted to test-l\nagainst dictator Fulgencio Ba-\nplacement of the critical. out-\nits men out of the field for\nto return to base, On our way\nons only to find\ntista. Cuban revolutionaries ob-\nspoken but extremely able\njust a couple of weeks. The\nback. we decided to test the\nmunition provid\ntained most of their funds\nAmerican captain who didn't\nsmall outboard motors that\ndifferent caliber\nmen returned to Miami, the\nfrom inside Cuba-from the\nhesitate to tell the \"spooks\"\norganization got the CIA\nwe use to power the small\ncompletely usele\nmiddle and upper classes. This\n(nickname for CIA agents)\nmoney and the training camp\nboats that ferry men and guns\noccasion they W\nwhat he thought of their oper-\nhas not been possible for the\nfrom the ship to shore, They\nmm. recolless\nwasn't reopened, these Ameri-\nations.\nlast year and a half. Further-\ndidn't work, After stripping\nmm ammunition\ncans say.\nmore. funds that were brought\nEventually. the CIA was\nall 4 motors. we discovered\n\"Jose.\" a well\nout of Cuba and made avail-\nA\nND one doesn't have to\nable to take over the \"Flor-\nwater had seeped into the\nathlete who WI\nable for revolutionry activ-\nlook far in Cuban exile\nida\" due to its control of the\neylinders.\"\nAmerican comp\nity have been expended and\ncircles to hear numerous\npurse strings and the original\n\"Johnny\" went on to charge\ntold how be stol\ncannot be placed. Thus. if\ncomplaints of CIA\ncrew and cuptain re-\nthat these motors which were\nseveral friends\nmissed\n-\nto be new had been\nthe\nU.S.\nin\n4AA THE DENVER POST Sunday, June\n3,\n1982\ne Learned to Hate CIA\nused by CIA agents for water\nAfter arriving in the U.S., he\nIN SPITE of the CIA, Cuban\ntheir trip. He estimated it cost\nskiing.\nsaid. he was promised by the\nfreedom fighters continue\nCastro's already strained\nCIA that he would be sent to\nto peck away at Fidel's police\nbudget tens of thousands of\nTHIS incident and the re-\na camp for specialized train-\nstate. They say they feel that\npesos as well as consumption\nsentment it engendered\ning in the near future. He\nsuch efforts are not in vain.\nof precious gasoline and wear\ncaused 'the CIA to take over\ncommented sarcastically, \"I'd\nThey point out that they now\non vehicles used to transport\nthe \"Florida\" once again.\nlike to know what they mean\nbribe fishermen and Castro's\nthe militia to and fro.\nAnd once again the new crew\nby near future, as I'm still\nmilitia with ice. food and med-\nrendered the ship inoperative\n\"You don't have to spend\nwaiting.\"\nicine so they can carry out\nmillions of dollars to hurt\nby burning cut both engines\n\"Jose\" related how he and\ntheir missions.\nand a generator. One member\nCastro,\" the American ad-\nseveral of his co-workers had\nAmerican volunteers, in no\nof the \"Florida's\" originalcrew\nviser continued. \"Multipiy\nplaced large amounts of C-1-\nway connected with the CIA\nwhat we did a hundred times\nhas been negotiating with the\na high explosive-- vital\nor any other governmental\nCIA to repair the \"Florida.\"\nover and he would really be\npoints throughout the plant\nagency, who advise and train\nWith the money earned from\nburting.\"\nin which he worked. When, he\nthe Cubans maintain that a\nsuch a repair job. the \"Flor-\nsaid, they gleefully informed\nmultitude of small scale raids\nGuerrillas operating in the\nida's\" crew hope to buy a\ntheir American manager the\ncarried out by killer-raider\nEscambray and resistance\nsmaller ship with which they\nleaders from the cities con-\nplant was ready to blow up\nteams could possibly increase\ncan conduct their own opera-\ntinue to trickel into Miami\nthe manager frantically ob-\nthe strain on Castro's now\ntions - without CIA \"guid-\njected, \"Don't do that. We'll\nstraining economy to the\nwith reports that men are\nance.\"\nbe back and we don't want\nbreaking point.\navailable to fight but they\nCIA personnel. according\ncan't do it with their bare\nthat plant destroyed.\"\nto the \"Florida's\" original\nAccording to these volunteers\nhands, After assessing the do-\nTHERE are confirmed re-\nshort hit and run missions\ncrew, are \"stupid, inexperl-\nnothing situation in Miami,\nenced and have not guts.\"\nports that Cuban lackeys\nwould keep the Communists\nthey compare the Kennedy\nThey charge that the head\nof the CIA also have dealt\noff balance, destroy morale\nAdministration's policy of hop-\nman of the CIA in Key\npoorly with their more coura-\nand force them to tighten up\ning that Fidel will wither on\ntheir control even further.\nWest-code name of \"Max\"-\ngeous countrymen. In Decem-\nthe vine to the little boy that\nber, 1960, Miro Cardone. nom-\nThe number of personnel In-\nis an ex-Agriculture Depart-\nwas thrown from a horse the\nvolved In such activities would\nment official who knows noth-\ninal head of the CIA-financed\nfirst time he tried to ride him\ning about marine operations,\n\"Consejo,\" invited young Cu-\nbe small and consequently the\nand decided not to try again\nbans to join the American\nlikellhood of the security of\nand that \"Gordon.\" who is\ntill the horse died.\narmed forces. Several Cubans\nsuch missions being com-\nhead of marine operations in\nSWAMPS.\nI talked with claimed they\npromised would be slight.\nThe result of such bungling,\nthe Miami area never com-\nOne American adviser re-\nother than giving the CIA a\nmanded anything larger than\nhad been promised faithfully\nlated how he and several\nworse name than it had after\nctive.\na\n30-ft. yacht.\nthat they would be sent di-\nCubans had stayed on a key\nthe Bay of Pigs failure, may\nAnother Cuban from a dif-\nrectly to special training\nBombino who had\nnear Cuba for several days\nproduce some side effects that\nferent organization told of a\ncamps at which they would be\nwere not counted on. Several\nected from the\nwhile awaiting to make a con-\nCIA \"safe house\" which was\ntaught the special skills they\nthe Cuban frigate\ntact on the mainland. They\npersons said it is likely that\nlocated on a vegetable farm\nwould need to fight the Cuban\ndidn't make their contacts nor\nif and when Castro falls, the\nits same frigate\noutside of Miami. It soon be-\nCommunists.\nnander. Bombino,\ndid they get involved in any\nleadership replacing him will\ncame obvious. he said, to the\nand attempted to\nOne young chap told me\nfirefights with Castro militia.\nnot be those individuals spon-\nsurrounding neighbors that\n\"Florida\" three\nthat \"Miro himself promised\nHowever. he said, word got out\nsored by the CIA: such leader-\ngrowing vegetables was not\nier according to\nthat if I enlisted I would get\nof their presence and Castro\nship may come from elements\nthe primary purpose of the\nfarm's new owners when these\nthe training I wanted and\nhad 5.000 militia combing the\nwhich have had to work\nrmer crew mem-\nneeded. So I enlisted in the\narea for two weeks-after the\nagainst the CIA as well as\n\"vegetable farmers\" raised a\nAir Force. 1 was sent to Lack-\ncounter revolutionaries had\nFidel, in which case they may\ncan eaptain. who\nbig fuss about crop dusting\nland Air Force Base where\nleft. By his account it cost\nnot turn Cuba into as pro-\nJohnny,\" told me\nplanes flying over their acre-\nfor six weeks I did little more\nthe American and his counter-\nAmerican a bastion as we\nred a year's pay\nage.\nthan polish boots, pick up eig-\nrevolutionary friends $50 for\nwould desire.\naround the world.\nWhen one of the trainees\nport engineer of\narette butts and clean la.\nasked his instructor why\nhe would with.\nhis M-3 submachine gun only\ntrines. I went to my com-\nthe \"Florida\"\nfired single shots. the In-\nmanding officer and asked\nthe rest of his\nstructor replied. \"Federal law\nwhen I could expect the spe-\ng, \"Johnny\" told\nprohibits firing automatic\nclal training I was promised.\nnew, more pliable\nweapons In the U.S.\" None-\nHe said he knew nothing of\ncomptly run the\ntheless, The Cuban said, the\nany such \"special training.\"\nground while test-\nCIA expected these same\nI wrote to the chief of the Air\nCubans to risk their lives\nForce and was discharged\nwere the only\nwith weapons with which they\nshortly thereafter.\"\ncould run her,\"\nwere not completely famillar.\nWhen I asked him why he\nhed. \"the CIA re-\nMembers of yet another or-\nthought such promises were\nve the \"Florida\"\nganization bitterly claim they\nmade, he answered, \"I think\nAfter making ex-\nwere given cases of Thomp-\nthey want to keep us from\nirs, we left on a\nson submachine guns for ship-\ngetting in the company's hair.\nluba. A few miles\nment to underground forces in\nCubans call the CIA the\nWest, the auto-\nCuba. When at sea they at-\n\"company\" as the Spanish\nbroke and we had\ntempted to test-fire the weap-\nabbreviation for company Is\nbase, On our way\nons only to find that the am-\nCla.\"\ncided to test the\nmunition provided was of a\nLast month. it is known that\nand motors that\ndifferent caliber and therefore\nthe heads of three anti-Castro\npower the small\ncompletely useless. On another\norganizations (no longer sup-\nΓTy men and guns\noccasion they were given .57\nported by the CIA) flew to\nip to shore, They\nmm. recolless rifles and .75\nWashington to confer with sev-\nAfter stripping.\nmm ammunition.\neral congressmen. They re-\n5, we discovered\n\"Jose.\" a well-known Cuban\nported they were told. \"to wait.\nseeped into the\nathlete who worked for an\nwait. it's the best way to save\nAmerican company in Cuba,\nlives.\" \"Meanwhile, Castro\nwent on to charge\ntold how he stole a boat with\ngets more and more arms and\ntotors which were\nseveral friends and escaped\nkills more of our friends,\" one\nbe new had been\nto the U.S. in August, 1961.\nleader commented.\nMEMORANDUM\nRe: FERRIE\nFebruary 3, 1967\nTO:\nJIM GARRISON, DISTRICT ATTORNEY\nFROM:\nAGENT #1\nRE:\nSMITH CASE\nNight before last, February 1, 1967, STEVE LITTLETON\nleft DAVE FERRIE a note saying to get in touch with him right\naway, it was very important. STEVE LITTLETON wanted DAVE to fly\na Twin-Beech Aircraft, N #5252 T, to Lufkum, Texas.\nDAVE was supposed to meet STEVE at the New Orleans\nAirport at 8:30 A.M., but he was late and didn't arrive until\n9:10 A.M. Well, in his great rush, DAVE tore up his transmission\nand burned out his clutch. He arrived at 9:10 A.M., departed at\n9:30 A.M., and arrived in Lufkum, Texas at 11:00 A.M. the same\nmorning. He called me from Texas at 2:30 P.M. and said he would\nbe a couple of hours late getting back and he arrived back in\nNew Orleans at 4:55 P.M.\nQ. When he got back, did you talk to him?\nA.\nYes. He said he went to pick somebody up.\nQ.\nDid he come back with somebody else?\nA.\nI suppose he did. I didn't see him arrive.\nQ.\nWhen did this partnership deal come about?\nWhen did it start?\nA.\nTwo weeks ago. DAVE FERRIE offered me a partnership\nin his business, Air Marine Corporation, alias Mid-\nSouth Aviation, and I accepted the partnership.\nPapers are in the process of being drawn up.\nQ. You are going to bring the papers to a notary to\nhave them checked?\nA.\nYes, to make sure everything is legal in case he\ntries to go back on the partnership.\nQ. Where did you get all these names and telephone\nnumbers?\nA. From FERRIE'S office while he was in Texas.\nQ. And also this loose-leaf paper with a diagram on it?\n-1-\nA. Out of files, 1963, a notebook of FERRIE'S in his\noffice.\nQ.\nDescribe this. What you think it looks like.\nA.\nIt's a diagram of a figure of a man with his back\nand what could be called a bullet hole in the back\nof his head and right shoulder. Also, a diagram of\na man side-facing with arrows pointing starting from\nthe back coming to the front of his throat. At the\ntop of the page there is a triangular line going up\nwith markings 60 feet high with a line coming down,\n2,500 feet long. At the bottom is a diagram of an\nairplane. That is all I can make out of it.\nQ.\nI am going to give you a pencil and want you to put\nthe date on it that you got it.\nA.\nFebruary 2?\n/leb\n14. OSWALD'S INTERSTATE CLAIMS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION\nIn order to receive unemployment compensation during\nhis unemployed period, OSWALD filed Continued Interstate\nClaims at the Division of Employment Security, 630 Camp St.,\nNew Orleans. These claims require that you \"explain what\nyou have done to find work.\" OSWALD filled out these forms\nevery week and indicated that he had sought work during his\nunemployed period as follows: (See Burcham Exhibit, Vol 19,\np. 224-234)\n*Mon.- July 22 (filed initial claim)\nTues- July 23: Stone Center\nWed.- \" 24: Rex Photography\nFri.-\n:\n26: O'Donnell Brothers Printing;\nOffset Production & Design\nMon.-\n\" 29: Southern Printing; Krause-Bon Studio\n*Tues-\n\"\n30: Godchaux's, Canal St.; Coca Cola Bottling Co.\nFri.- Aug. 2 :\nWinston Printing Co.\nSat.-\n\"\n3 : United Fruit Co.; Nifty Printing Co.\nMon.-\n=\n5 :\nUnion Printing Co.\n*Tues- \"\n6 :\nCosmos Shipping\nWed.-\n\"\n7 :\nKatz & Bestoff\nFri.-\n\"\n9 : Ables Commercial Photography\nMon.-\n\"\n12: Bernados-Weiss Photography; Hartman Studios\n*Tues- \"\n13:\n(filed claim)\nWed.- \"\n14:\nEsso Company\nThur- \"\n15:\nPrint Rollers, Inc.\nFri.- \"\n16: Times-Picayune; States-Item.\nSun.- \"\n18: Bestoff Drugstore (darkroom)\nMon.-\n:\n19: Krains Shoes; Pedro Art Studio;\nThomas Barberito\n*Tues- \"\n20: Schultz Bookkeeping. (clerk)\nThur- \"\n22: Jean Guccione (photographer)\nFri.- \"\n23: Lee Tilton Studio (darkroom)\nMon.-\n\"\n26: Bill Coran Studio (photographer)\n*Tues- \"\n27:\n(filed claim)\nWed.- \"\n28: Francks Studio (photographer)\nThur- \"\n29: Rosen, 859 So. Front St. (Clerk)\nFri.-\n\"\n30: Reif or Ceif Studio (darkroom)\n*Tues-\nSep. 3 : South Central Studio (darkroom)\nWed.-\n\"\n4 : Lincoln Photo Studio (Photo)\nThur- \"\n5 : Primary Color Lab (darkroom)\nFri.-\n\"\n6 : Dumas Milner Leasing (clerk)\nMon.-\n:\n9 : McKenzie Shoppe; Marine & Industrial (clerk)\nTues- \"\n10:\n(filed claim)\nWed.-\n\"\n11: Jasimer Co. (clerk)\nThur- \"\n12: Rathborne Land & Lumber Co. (any)\nFri.- :\n13: Sackett Studios (photo)\nSat.-\n\"\n14: Ansco Photo Supplies (photo)\nTues-\n\"\n17:\n(filed claim)\nWed.- \"\n18: Ajax, Inc., Photographers (photo)\nThur- \"\n19: W. B. Simson, Shipping (any)\nFri.-\n\"\n20: 532 Magazine, B. D. Co. (clerk)\n*Tues- : 24: (filed final claim)\nIt cannot be taken as established that OSWALD in fact\nsought work at any of the above establishments, in view of the ease\nwith which he could have looked them up in the Yellow Pages, and\nsimply filled in the names on the forms he filled out. It is\nespecially unlikely that he sought work after obtaining his visa for\nMexico on September 17.\nTherefore the following summary of OSWALD's activities\ndoes not include reference to the above alleged attempts to obtain\nemployment.\nup\n15. SUMMARY OF OSWALD'S MOVEMENTS WHILE UNEMPLOYED IN N. 0.\nJULY\nThursday\n18\nAt library\nFriday\n19\nLeft Reily Coffee Co.\nSaturday\n20\nSunday\n21\nMonday\n22\nFiled first unemployment claim.\nTuesday\n23\nWednesday\n24\nThursday\n25\nFriday\n26\nSaturday\n27\nTo Mobile\nSunday\n28\nMobile to New Orleans\nMonday\n29\nTuesday\n30\nAt library; filed unemployment claim.\nWednesday\n31\nAt library;\nAUGUST\nThursday\n1\nWrote \"August 1\" on letter to V. T. Lee\nFriday\n2\nSaturday\n3\nSunday\n4\nLetter to V. T. Lee postmarked 6:30 p.m. Aug. 4.\nMonday\n5\nAt library; Met Carlos Bringuier in Casa Roca\nTuesday\n6\nFiled unemployment claim\nWednesday\n7\nThursday\n8\nAt library\nFriday\n9\nArrested on Canal St. Spent night at police\nstation.\nSaturday\n10\nInterviewed at police station.\n-7-\nAUGUST - Cont.\nSunday\n11\nMonday\n12\nPayed fine in Court; at library.\nTuesday\n13\nFiled unemployment claim.\nWednesday\n14\nThursday\n15\nFriday\n16\nLeafleting at Trade Mart; Quiroga goes to\nMagazine St.\nSaturday\n17\nStuckey visits Oswald at 8 a.m., and recorded\nhim at 5 p.m.\nSunday\n18\nMonday\n19\nOswald phone Stuckey (or on 20th)\nTuesday\n20\nFiled unemployment claim\nWednesday\n21\nAppeared on Conversation 'Carte Blanche'\nat WDSU.\nThursday\n22\nAt library\nFriday\n23\nSaturday\n24\nSunday\n25\nMonday\n26\nTuesday\n27\nFiled unemployment claim.\nWednesday\n28\nThursday\n29\nFriday\n30\nSaturday\n31\nSEPTEMBER\nSunday\n1\nMonday\n2\nTuesday\n3\nFiled unemployment claim.\nWednesday\n4\nThursday\n5\nFriday\n6\nSaturday 7\nBrief History of the Chain of Title of 544 Camp Street\nOn May 9, 1851 the heirs of Benjamin Story via a notarial act\npassed before H.B. Cenas sold the property to Benjamin S. Story.\nForty years later on June 24, 1891 Benjamin S. Story sold the\nproperty to the Crescent Encampment No. 1 of the Order of Knights\nof Temperence, who owned the property for 20 years until December\n7, 1919 when they sold it to the Longshoremen's Benevolent\nAssociation, also known as the Stevedore's and Longshoremen's\nBenevolent Society. The union also owned the property for about\n20 years or until March 19, 1942 when they sold it to United\nBuilding Association of New Orleans in whose possession it\nremained for the next 17 years.\nThroughout the property transfers the corner lot is referred\nto by either or both of its municipal addresses: Camp St. and\n529-533 Lafayette St. The lot at issue (3rd Tax Assessment\nDistrict, Square 164, Lot D) is on the corner of Camp and\nLafayette Streets. The square is bounded by Poydras, Magazine,\nLafayette, and Camp. We know that the Lafayette and Camp Street\naddresses belong to the same property not only because the\nproperty descriptions, i.e. \"metes and bounds\" and the square\nfootage, match from act to act whether either R both addresses\nare used, but also because there is no subdivision plan filed,\nwhich would indicate that the lot had been divided.\nOn August 6, 1959 in an act before Irving Novick, Notary\nUnited Building Association of New Orleans sold 544 Camp St. to\nOscar J. Friedmann for $32,500.00 cash. On that same date and\nbefore the same notary, Oscar J. Friedmann sold the property to\nCapital Gains, Inc. for $50,000.00 on terms.\nCapital Gains, Inc. was a relatively new corporation,\nincorporated on July 15, 1969 in an act before the same notary,\nIrving Novick. Capital's shareholders were:\n1. William C. Copping - 20 shares\n516 Delta Bldg. 348 Baronne St. New Orleans, LA\n-2-\n2. Mrs. Louana Buzbee - 1 share\n822 Perdido Street (Irving Novick's address)\n3. Sidney de Armas - 1 share\n822 Perdido Street (Probably Novick's law partner)\nCapital's directors were Copping, Buzbee, and Joseph E. LeMieux\n(at Copping's address).\nOn August 25, 1960 in an act before James P. Grevemberg,\nOscar J. Friedmann, Capital Gains, Inc. via its agent, Louis A.\nDiRosa sold the property to Sam Newman for $35,000.00 - 6221.00\ncash and the balance on terms. The property addresses are 544\nCamp St. and 529-31-33 Lafayette St. The act also indicates that\nSam Newman was married and lived at 1337 Mithra Street.\nOn July 12, 1965, Sam Newman sold the property to Fidelity\nHomestead for $58,000.00 cash. The act was passed before Allain\nC. Andry (now the President of Fidelity Homestead). On that same\ndate and before Allain C. Andry again, the property was sold to\nHughes J. de la Vergne II, never married 2314 Jefferson Avenue,\nCharles Edouard de la Vergne, never married 427 Walnut, and Louis\nVictor de la Vergne, never married 427 Walnut for $34,800.00\nterms. Apparently, the Homestead lost over $20,000.00 on the\nsale, but Fidelity lost much more.\nOn March 7, 1973 Judge Edward J. Boyle of the Federal\nDistrict Court granted a joint motion filed by the U.S.\nAttorney's Office, Gerald Gallinghouse, via Assistant U.S.\nAttorney Robert N. Habans, Jr. and by the attorney for the de la\nVergnes, Ralph L. Kaskell, Jr. of DKS. The joint motion sold the\nproperty to the U.S. Government for $141,162.50.\nIt is indeed ironic that the Federal government chose to\nerect its building, named the Hale Boggs Building in honor of\nthat member of the Warren commission who disappeared in a plane\nover Alaska, on the site of the 544 Camp St. building.\nRe: BANISTER\nPLAY for CUDA PAMPHLETS\nMEMORANDUM\nFAIR DISPOSITION FILES of\nDELPHINE RODERTS\nMay I, 1967 - Dictated\nTO:\nJIM GARRISON, District Attorney\nFROM:\nANDREW J. SCIAMBRA, Assistant District Attorney\nRE:\nMRS. MARY BANISTER INTERVIEW WITH\nApril 29th and 30th, 1967\nI traveled to Monroe, Louisiana to talk to Mrs. MARY\nBANISTER in connection with the files her husband GUY BANISTER\nwas keeping in the course of his investigative work. Mrs. BANISTER\ntold me that after he husband died Mrs. DELPHINE ROBERTS and her\ndaughter took some files from GUY BANISTER's apartment and also\nfrom GUY BANISTER's office and turned them over to Mr. G. WRAY\nGILLS\nGILL. She also said that she believes these files were in\nreference to an investigation concerning DAVID FERRIE and his\ncase with Eastern Airlines. She stated that she later on called\nMr. GILL and asked him to return these files to her and he did\nnot do SO. She said that she does not know what happened to\nthese files. Mrs. BANISTER went on to say that she also burned\nsome files because she felt, in her opinion, that these files\nshould be destroyed as they might hurt some innocent people;\nthat these files did not contain anything in regards to Communist\nor anti-Communist group activities. Mrs. BANISTER told me that\nabout 1 or 2 days after her husband's death she did go to his\noffice in an attempt to prevent anyone from taking these files\nand discovered that some files had already been taken. The old\nman who lived above BANISTER's office told her that he had seen\nROBERTS:\nDELPHONE ROBERTS and her daughter take some files while her\ndaughter and a boliceman, was present.\nPAMMHLNTS:\nFPCC\nShe said that the only thing she could say in regard\nto OSWALD's Fair Play for Cuba Committee was that she saw some\nFair Play For Cuba leaflets in BANISTER's office when she went\nthere after his death. Mrs. BANISTER said she threw them away\nin the wastebasket. Mrs. BANISTER told me that because she was\nin such financial difficulties she sold many of her husband's\nfiles to the Metropolitan Crime Commission, and she gave some\nMCC:\nto the State Sovereignty Commission, and she also gave some to\nthe State Police. She said that she also gave a complete index\ncard catalogue, which was a record of every investigation that\nher husband was involved in, to the State Police. Mrs. BANISTER\nsaid that she had never heard her husband speak of the Friends of\nCltainil by\nCuba or Voice of Cuba or SERGIO ARCACHA SMITH, BILL DALZELL, OR\nN.O.D.AS office)\nCARLOS QUEROGA. She said that the name REGIS KENNEDY is familiar\nto her probably because I told her he is an F.B.I. Agent.\nI looked over the books which Mrs. BANISTER had, which\nwere in her husband's library, and these were text books on\nvarious subjects which did not pertain to any investigation. She\ntold me that she had donated other text books to the New Orleans\nPublic Library, Northeastern State College, and Louisiana State\nUniversity in New Orleans.\nMrs. BANISTER emphasized the point that she did not\nwant to get involved in any way, and that if anyone did ask her\nif she had talked to anyone from the District Attorney's Office,\nshe would say that she had not. However, Mrs. BANISTER did say\nthat she would like to help us in any way she could but that she\nwould like to help us on a confidential basis.\nANDREW J. SCIAMBRA\nAJS/leb\nyou UTI\nOFFICE OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY\nPARISH OF ORLEANS\nSTATE OF LOUISIANA\nRE: (1) BANISTER\n(2) LO \"ESCORT\"\nDECEMBER 29, 1966\nSTATEMENT OF:\nJOSEPH A. OSTER, WM, age 38\nRESIDING AT:\n809 Audubon\nTELEPHONE NO.\n525-4205\nSTATEMENT\nIn about 1956, Guy Banister and I went in business\ntogether in the private investigating firm known as Guy Banister\nand Associates, Inc. At that time, we were in the Balter\nBuilding on St. Charles Street in New Orleans. During the\ncourse of time I was in business with Banister, I met Jack\nMartin and others.\nSubsequently, I left Banister and formed my own\ncorporation in 1958. It was known as Southern Research\nCompany, Inc. now Joseph A. Oster and Associates, Inc.\nDuring the time I was in business with Banister, I\nhad occasion to visit his home on Argonne Blvd. At that\ntime, Banister had to my knowledge a number of rifles and also\na 357 Magnum. I can vaguely remember that he had a .30\ncaliber bolt action rifle also a shotgun, also an over and under,\nI don't know what caliber. The .30 caliber bolt action had a\ntelescopic sight. I know Banister carried a 357 magnum with\ngold initials (I think the initials were WGB). What happened\nto these guns, I don't know.\nDuring the course of my friendship with Banister,\nfrom the middle of 62 to the end of '63, I met Joe Newbrough,\nALL\nBill Ninski, Delphene Roberts, Jack Martin, and I was introduced\n-2-\nto Dave Ferrie and two Cuban exiles. I don't remember their\nnames. One I know was employed in the Audubon Building for\nan engineering firm on the 5th floor. He was tall, thin,\nJorge Ramirez Engineer for Warren moses 529 277)\ndark hair, and I vaguely remember he was a draftsman or some\nkind of engineer. He was approximately 30 to 32 years old.\nAt the time I met them, they were driving an old Ford. The\nother Cuban was short, stocky, moustache and appeared to be\nhighly educated. He was about 45 years old. When Banister\nintroduced me to them, he told me they were Cuban exiles\nand had been run out of Cuba by Castro. He also told me\nthey were the heads of some kind of exile movement here in\nNew Orleans, and they were trying to get some kind of program\nstarted.\nI remember one time Banister was telling me about\nsome automobile parts and heavy equipment being sent to\nCuba in violation of a State Department band against the export\nof equipment to Cuba. He was investigating it for\nsomebody. He told me it was in violation of the State Depart-\nment's band and he left me with the impression it was jeeps,\nand sugar refinery equipment. For some reason I remember the\nname Dibert, Bancroft, and Roth at Tulane and South Jefferson\nDavis. This comes in somewhere, I don't remember exactly where.\nHe told me he had pictures of this stuff and mentioned the\nname of the wharf where it was. He also told me he could\ntake me and show me the equipment that was going to Cuba.\nI remember he told me that he had pictures of this equipment\nand\nbut I don't remember if he told me Newbrough did take them\nor was going to take them. He called and asked me about a\ncamera, but I didn't have the kind he wanted. So, the next\ntime I saw him, Newbrough was in the office along with Martin,\nDave Ferrie, and Dave Lewis. Delphene Roberts was the\nsecretary. Bill Ninski was in the other room. This was on\n-3-\nLafayette Street. We went around to the restaurant and New-\nbrough told me he had taken some pictures for Banister.\nWhat they were, I don't know. I think Newbrough or Martin\nthe\nmentioned jeeps to me.\nSubsequently, I ran into one of the Cubans I\nwas introduced to in Banister's Office in my own office\nbuilding and I would see him coming in and out of the elevator,\nand I asked him if he had seen Banister and he said, \"No,\nI'm not fooling with that anymore.\" I haven't seen this\nCuban for about four months now. This particular unknown\nCuban was watching Oswald pass out these pamphlets in front\nof Maison Blanche, Kress, and the Audubon Building.\n(sic)\nI remember - Anna Birdglass was also in and out\ncheck\nof Banister's Office during this same period.\nphoto of\npossible\n\"escort\nUnarged letter\nRe: (1) BANISTER\n(2) CUBAN\nBanister Calm\nBanesher,\nEXILES\nOpenation\nFor: Redigult, Friends\nof Denr. Cuba + Industed\nMR JIV GARRISON\nfiles.\nNEW ORLEANS POLICE DEPT.\nor\nNEW ORLEANS, LA.\n111 EARLY JANUARY OF 1.961 I WENT TO NEW ORLEANS WHILE ON A BUMMING AROUND THE\nCOUNTRY EXPEDITION. AS BY FUNDS WERE LOW AT THAT THE, I BECAN LOOKING FOR\nA JOB. WHILE FOLLOWING A JOB LEAD ON A SIDE STREET OFF CANAL STREET - I\nDON'T REVEMBER THE NAME OF THE STREET - I NOTED A BUILDING ALL DECKEO OUT\nIN RED, WHITE AND BLUE BANNERS 71TH A LARGE SIGN ACROSS THE FRONT IN LETTERS\nAT LEAST A FOOT TALL, SAYING FRIENDS OF DEMOCRATIC CUDA (LATER THE NAME WAS\nCHANGED),\n1) WONDERED AT THIS AS CASTRO WAS AT THAT THE MAKING INTERNATIONAL PLEAS: FOR\nMILITARY AID AS THERE WAS, HE SAID, GOING TO 88 AN INVASION FROM THE UNITED\nSTATES AND HE HAD LONG SINCE DECLARED CUBA COMMUNIST. SD I WENT IN TO\nINFORM THESE PEOPLE THAT CUBA WAS NOT A DEMOCRATIC BUT A DICTATORIAL NATION.\nI STEPPED INTO THE MOSTUNUSUAL SITUATION I HAVE EVER ENCOUNTERED.\nSUPPOSEDLY, THIS ORGANIZATION AND ITS PEOPLE WERE COLLECTING CLOTHING, F000,\nMONEY AND NEOICAL SUPPLIES, ETC, FOR CUBAN REFUGEES WHO WERE CONING OVER TO\nTHE U.S. THE ORGANIZATION JAS IN EFFECT, I LEARNED SHORTLY, A FRONT FOR THE\nSCHEME OF AN INVASION OF CUBA AND THIS WAS ONE OF THEIR HEADQUARIERS. HAVING\nNO PLACE TO STAY, THEY INVIDED VE TO STAY WITH THEM IN THIS OFFICE AREA THEY\nHAD IN THE BUILDING 171 EXCHANGE FOR USE OF MY CAR.\nI BECAVE ACQUAINTED WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THE LIKE OF #HI H 1 THOUGHT EXISTED\nONLY IN NOVIES. SHEN YOUR ASSASSINATIONNVESTICATION CAME TO LIGHT 1 RECOGNIZED\nIMEDIATEL Y MANY OF THE FACES AND NAMES AS THOSE I HAD ASSOCIATED WITH FOR OVER\nTWO NONTHS AND KNEW AS UNPSEDICTABLE CHARACTERS.\nI ME T GUY BANNISTER AND TALKED WITH HIM IN GROUPS A NUMBER OF TIMES - NE EXPLAINED\nHIVSELF TO BE AN EX F.B.I MAN #NO WAS RETIRED AND NOT DOING PRIVATE INVESTIGATING.\nHE HAD SOME KIND OF DELUSTIONS OF GRANDEUR ABOUT OBTAINING A HIGH OFFICE IN CUSA\nAFTER THE CAS730 OVERTHROW. WHEN THE FIRST PLAN FOR INVASION DIDN'T MATERIALIZE\n(THERE WAS THREE SUCH WHILE I WAS THERE) HE SUGGESTED A WILD SCHEAE TO ORGANIZE\nA \"DLACK BRIGARD\" OF ANTI COMMUNIST BANDIDOS, WHICH WAS TO BE NAMED \"BANNISTER'S\nBASTARDS\" AND WERE TO FIGHT SOUTH AND CENTRAL AMERICAN COMMUNIST CUERRILAS\nANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE, FOR PAY FROM GOVERNMENTS OF COUNTRIES. HE CAME INTO\nTHE OFFICE ALONE MOST OF THE TIME BUT SOMETIMES ME HAD OTHER MEN WITH HIM.\nTHOUGH MIS NATURE WAS NOT NEARLY AS EXPLOSIVE AS THE LATINS THERE, SOME OF HIS\nIDEAS WERE WILD TO SAY THE LEAST. AN INTERESTING POINT. AS WELL AS I CAN\nREMEMBER HID, HE LOOKED A GREAT DEAL LIKE THE PICTURES I HAVE SEEN OF CLAY SHAW!\nONE OF THE DISGRUNTLED CUSANS I BE CANE ACQUAINTED WITH WAS SERGIO - CAN'T REMEMBER\nHIS LAST NAME - IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE ARCADIS. HE WAS ALWAYS INVAGULATELY DRESSED\nIN A BLUE SUIT, WELL SHAVEN AND ALOOF. HE WAS THE CHIEF SPIRIT IN NEW ORLEANS FOR\nTHE ORGANIZATION OF THE INVASION. MOST OF HIS COHORTS WERE EVIDENTLY 07 THE\nSAME SOCIO ECONOMIC LEVEL, USED TO COMMAND AND WANTED THEMSELVES TO ES CHIEF.\nTHEREFORE THEY COULD NOT SEEM TO BE ORGANIZED. I REMEMBER THAT ONE OF HIS PLANS\nWAS TO HAVE A FLOAT 111 THE MARDI GRAS PARADE CONSISTING OF À LARGE CUBAN FLAG -\n2\nBED SHEET SIZE are ON A FLOAT BED IN THIS MANNER - - WITH POINTING SUPERIUPOSED\nTO THE EFFECT THAT PEOPLE THROW COINS ACAINST THE FLAG WHICH TOULD THEN FALL ONTO THE\nBEO OF THE FLOAT TO BE COLLECTED TO AID IN FREEING CUBA.\nHE, SEROID -- WAS OF AN EXPLOSIVE TEMPERAMENT AND CARED NOT A WHIT FOR ANYONE OTHER\nTHEN HIMSELF AND HIS POSSESSIONS. ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS ME AND DR. JOSE DEL HAYA (THE\nMOST IMPORTANT FIGURE OF THE GROUP) ALMOST DID BATTLE IN THE OFFICE.\nI HAVE HEARD NOTHING OF DR. JOSE DEL HAYA IN YOUR INVESTIGATIONS. HE WAS THE NOBLEST\nROMAN OF THEM ALL, WAS SINCERE AND MOST PERSONABLE. HE WAS SLIGHT OF BUILD, ABOUT\nTHIRTY YEARS OF AGE, REFINED, INTELLIGENT AND THE ONLY ONE OF THE GROUP OF PERHAPS\nTWENTY PEOPLE IN THE GROUP THAT WAS OF VALUE. HE TOLD ME ME HAD BEEN WITH THE\nSTUDENT REVOLT OF 1.953 III CUBA AND WAS SEVERELY WOUNDED. ME FOUGHT WITH CASTRO\nON HIS SIDE, BUT DISAOSEED WITH HIM POLITICALLY. HE TOLD ME HE WAS SENT TO THE\nU.S. BY CASTRO AFTER CASTRO'S VICTORY, TO CARNER PUBLIC SUPPORT. HE WAS RECALLED\nAND IMPRISONED WHEN HE QUESTIONED THE POST REVOLUTION PURGES. HE ESCAPED, CAME TO\nTHE U.S. AND WAS STRIVING TO ATTAIN RECOGNITION BY THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOC. AT THE\nSOME TIVE, HE WAS TRYING TO CET COMPANIES WITH INDUSTRIES WHICH WERE NATIONALIZED BY\nCASTRO TO CONTRIBUTE FUNDS FOR HIS OVERTH900. HE WAS A MAN OF PASSION AND COMPASSION\nDE010ATED TO HIS PEOPLE. THE LAST I HEARD OF HIM, HE WAS IN OKLAHOMA CITY WORKING\nIN A HOSPITAL. IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING OF HIM, TRY TO FIND HIU. I AM SURE HE KNOUS\nAND CAN CONTRIBUTE MUCH KNOWLEDGE TO YOUR INVESTICATION. I DON'T KNOW WHO HE REALLY\nWAS. I USED TO ACCOMPANY HIM ON SOME STRANGE MISSIONS WHICH HE VOULD NOT EXPLAIN\nAND AFTER THE CIA TIE WAS EXPOSED AT THE BAY OF PIOS, I DEGAN TO WONDER IF ANY OF\nTHESE PEOPLE MEBEREAL.\nTHERE WAS A ROUST ABOUT WHO CALLED HINSELF \"TIGER\" JIH - A ELOATER WHO LIKED TO DEAR\nS HIRT AND TIE- WAS POTENTIALLY INTELLIGENT OUT COULD NOT BE TRUSTED FOR A MOMENT.\nKE WAS EVIDENTLY A MAN OF WORDLY EXPERIENCE- HE KNEW PEOPLE IN NEW ORLEANS. HE ALSO\nCONSIDERED CUSA, AS HE PUT IT, \"ONE BIG PIE OF WHICH NE WANTED A SLICE, AND THE\nREVOLUTION WOULD AFFORD 17\".\nNE AND A MAN NAMED CHARLIE, WHO SUPPOSEDLY HAD WORKED IN A JEWELRY STORE IN PHILADELPHIA\nPENN., BUT HAD ONLY SHORTLY BEFORE RETURNED FROM MONTEVIDED, DEVISED A PLOT WHICH\nI OVERHEARO IN THE PLANNING (AFTER THE SECOND INVASION IDEA FADED OUT) OF ABSCONDING\nWITH THE MEDICAL SUPPLIES WHICH HAD BEEN STOCKPILED IN THE OFFICE AND SELLING THE\nSERINGES AND MORPHINE IN THE FRENCE QUARTER FOR MONEY TO START A CHICKEN FARM IN\nPERUS ALONG WITH A SNACOLE TOOTHED CHARACTER WHO CLAIMED TO BE OF PURE BLOOD\nCHEROKEE INDIAN, KOREAN WAR VETERAN AND TRUCK MECHANIC, AND WHO WAS SUPPOSEDLY\nENGAGED TO MARRY THE DAUGHTER OF A MILLIONAIRE FROM LIMA, PERU. HIS NAME VAS\nJOSEPH MOORE AND HE GAVE ME THIS ADDRESS IF EVER I WAS IN LIMA, PERU -\nAV. AREGAIZ, 2798 SAN ISIDRO, LIMA, PERU. I FOUND I STILL HAD THIS ADDRESS IN\nAN OLD WALLET AND THIS IS MASWELL AS I CAN MAKE OUT HIS WRITING. NOTE: I ALSO JUST\nFOUND DR. JOSE DEL HAYAS* ADDRESS HE GAVE NS BEFORE LEAVING NEW DRLEANS:\nDR. JOSE DEL MAYA, c/o GENERAL DELIVERY, NEW ORLEANS, LA. ALSO 1420, 15TH ST. NORTH.,\nST. PETERSBURG, FLA., AND CONCORDIA 963, HASANA, CUBA.\nJOE MOORE WAS TALL - 6 FT. 3 INCHES, THIN AND WEIGHED 175- 180 L8S. CHARLIE WAS\n5 FT. 8 INCHES, MEDIUM BUILD. BLOND, SHIRT AND THE TYPE WITH SOME COLLEGE AND A\nGREAT CAPACITY TO DEAL WITH EXPLOSIVE LATIN NATURES. HIS CLOSEST COHORT WAS A\nMAN WHO REMINDED ME OF GENE KELLY (ACTOR) IN APPEARANCE BUT WAS MENTALLY BACKWARD,\nHE CLAIMED TO HAVE JUST ESCAPED TO THE U.S. FROM 1 PRISON IN VERA CRUIZ, WHERE HE\nAND SEVERAL CONFEDERATES HAD BEEN IMPRISONED FOR BEING CAUGHT WITH A LOAD OF GUNS\n3\nWHICH WERE HEADED FOR GUATEMALA.\nTHEN THERE WAS BILLI WHOEVER HE WASS HE LOOKED LIKE A POOR MAN'S CLARK CABLE WITH\nTWENTY EXTRA POUNDS. A THEATRICAL CENERAL WHO LIKED TO SIT BENIND A DESK WITH PAPERS\nAND PEN IN MAND WITH OVERLY DRAWATIZED EXPRESSION OF MEDITATION AND CONCERN. HE\nWANTED TO BE A COUMANDER IN THE FIELD OF THE COUNTER REVOLUTIONARIES AND STOICLY\nDISREGARD THE PRAISE OF THE FREED MULTITIDE AS HE BORE THE WEIGHT OF THE OFFICE OF\nFREEDOM, AS LONO AS IT WASN'T DANGEROUS OR REQUIRED NO REAL RESPONSIBILITY. I\nREMEMBER HE WAS LIVING OFF AND ON WITH A VERY HEAVY BLOND WOMAN III THE QUARTER WHO\nWORE WHITE AS IF SHE WERE A NURSE. HER NAME WAS DEITY, SHE ONCE CALLED THE OFFICE\nForrett?\nAND SAID SHE HAD FOUND A NOTE IN THE GARBAGE CAN INDICATING THAT BILL WAS A DOUBLE\nAGENT*.\nA GIRL WHO CLAIMED TO BE FROM COLUMBIA NAMED CHRISTINA CAME INTO THE OFFICE\nFREQUENTLY, STRUCK A RELATIONSHIP WITH TICER JIII AND THEY BECAME ENOAGED. SHE WAS\nA DEVOUT PATRIOT TO LATIN FREEDOM AND STAUNCHLY SUPPORTED THE CASTRO OVERTHROM.\nHOWEVER, SHE WAS REFINED AND EDUCATED SOMEWHAT AND NOVED THROUGH AT DOD ANDLES IF\nTHAT BAKES SENSE, NOT FITTING AT ALL WITH THE OVERALL EARTHY, CARNAL GROUP TYPE CAST.\nSHE WAS MORE OF DEL HAYA'S CLASS ... I REMEMBER THAT WE WENT OVER TO VISIT HER ONCE\nAND ALL EVENING THERE WAS CONVERSATION IN DOUBLE TALK. I AM SURE IT WAS NOT THAT\nOF SEDUCTION AROUND ^ THIRD PERSON EITHER.\nTHERE WAS A FELLOW CALLED ROSIE. HE WAS UNCLEAN, LETHARGIC OF MIND AND LETHAL.\nTHOUGH HE SEENED DULL EYED AND DULL WITTED, HE WOULD AT THE SAME TIME DO LITTLE\nTHINGS THAT REQUIRED VIT. HE WANTED ME TO 00 ON A LITTLE THIP WITH HIM TO BRAZEL\nWHERE WE WERE TO PICK UP A QUANTITY OF UNCUT STONES WHICH WOULD THEN BE DROPPED\nON A REEF AT THE EDGE OF U.S. TERRITORIAL WATERS TO BE PICKED UP BY DIVERS AND\nSUUGGLED INTO THE U.S. WE WOULD SPLIT $50,000.00 FOR IT. I WAS THE ONLY ONE HE\nTRUSTED.\nON TWO OCCASIONS, AN ALOOF, REFINED, HANDSOME YOUNG CUBAN CAME IN, WHO WAS NAMED\nFRANCESCO SOMETHING. HIS FATHER WAS AROUND OFTEN AND HAD FOUGHT FOR CUDAN UNITY\nAND FREEDOM SEVERAL TIMES. EACH TIME FRANCESCO WAS TO ARRIVE, THERE WAS MUCH\nHULCABALLOO. BY CAR WAS USED TO PICK HIM UP AT THE AIRPORT.\nOF LITTLE VALUE BUT ALWAYS THERE WAS A MENTALLY RETARDED MAN NAMED JERRY.\nIN REFERENCE TO ALL THE ABOVE NAMED PEOPLE, I AM SORRY THAT I CANNOT REMEMBER THEIR\nFULL NAMES, BUT I COULD IDENTIFY MOST OF THEIR PHOTOS AND RECALL MORE DETAILS ON\nEACH OF THEM AND OTHERS. IF YOU THINK THAT I COULD BE OF HELP, PLEASE WRITE A\nLETTER TO PLAYSOY MAGAZINE, STATING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK WITH THE GUY FROM\nUP NORTH. 1. WOULD CONTACT YOU DIRECTLY BUT IT IS TOO DANGEROUS.\nMEMORANDUM\nRe: FERRIE\nJanuary 11, 1967\nTO:\nLOUIS IVON, INVESTIGATOR\nFROM:\nLYNN LOISEL, INVESTIGATOR\nRE:\nPHONE CALL FROM JIMMY JOHNSON REGARDING FERFIE AND\nTHE SMITH CASE (January 10, 1967, 4:00 P. M.)\nIt is to be noted that Jimmy Johnson who was once a\nclose associate of Ferrie, but broke free from Ferrie but as a\nfavor for this office, renewed his friendship with Ferrie for\ninformation purposes for this office.\nJimmy stated that Ferrie had contacted Pershing the\nother day in regards to the Cuban woman's name that was\nmentioned in the Saturday Evening Post article.\nThat Ferrie had called a lawyer (name unknown) last\nnight which would be January 9, 1967, and spoke with the\nlawyer about his being investigated by this office. Details\nof conversation unknown.\nFerrie has a lot of old army paraphernalia in his\napartment, such as, walkie talkies, incendiary bombs, etc.\nFerrie was showing nude pictures (moving films)\nto two young boys and a district police car shined a light on\nhis front porch and he really became frightened and uncontrol-\nlable, telling Jimmy that the police must suspect him.\nJimmy stated that one Steve Littleton parked a twin-\nengine beacheraft in Ferrie's spot at the sirport, and that\ntheir plane was flown in from out-of-town. It is at Ferrie's\ndisposal. He also heard Ferrie and Littleton talking about a\nlittle island somewhere and they were interested in knowing if\nthey could land the beachcraft on this island.\n-2-\nJimmy feels that they may have taken a smaller\nairplane and flew to this island today to look at a possible\nlanding spot,\nEnd of Communication\nLYNN LOISEL\nLL/bb\nSAX\nSelection\nBIRTH\n1607\nRES\nvost Important usan) west 2 THE\n683\nBlv\nwith\nfor\nJULY\nUnited salita visit at\nvisa as you birs 4d 52 5\nare color - states\nDate entited naturals white pelicy's 40\nTYP visit # listed 386 solleg delatib * file wgar -\nbelo removit yllses at tax Glide\n4d Jame valid edd 1601 State MAR\noffer E Sexing avsee you THAT Securi -\nHas Date off 25 2020 valuet 87\nstatement and n mit at 400 Missi\n* - Sex class Above\nMA united AA - pate Ester exemptions\nchosted 400 no\nMEMORANDUM\nRe: FERRIE\nFebruary 10, 1967\nTO:\nJIM GARRISON, DISTRICT ATTORNEY\nFROM:\nAGENT #1\nRE:\nSMITH CASE\nAgent #1 stated that DAVE FERRIE hasn't been very\nactive the past week. He continuously complains of being sick\nand knows that he is going to die soon.\nAgent #1 stated the parnership he and FERRIE has is\nnot working out. He has been working with FERRIE and FERRIE will\nnot pay him any money. He stated that he got into a heated argu-\nment with FERRIE on Wednesday, February 8, 1967, because he\nneeded $90.00 to pay his rent. After threatening to \"kick the\nshit\" out of him (quote from Agent #1), DAVE FERRIE brought\n$45.00 to Agent #1's wife, and promised to give the rest to him\nlater on that day. When Agent #1 insisted on the rest of his\nmoney, DAVE FERRIE told him he didn't have it and couldn't get it\nfor him now because he was going home, that he was not feeling\nwell and didn't want to argue any more. FERRIE stated he was\ngoing to straighten everything out in the next day or so (meaning\nhis business) and then kill himself.\nWhile in the District Attorney's Office, Agent #1 was\nrequested to telephone DAVE FERRIE and have a friendly conversa-\ntion with him so as not to break up their relationship. Agent #1\nstated that this was no problem because DAVE FERRIE was in love\nwith him. The call was made and arrangements were made to have\nAgent #1 pay a friendly visit to DAVE FERRIE.\n/leb\nFill Indiated\nMEMORANDUM\n(Copy & * Richard Benns\nNovember 7, 1967\nRa: CUBANS (general)\nRa: BANISTER\nRs: CARLOT QUIROZA\nTO:\nJIM GARRISON, District Attorney\nNote: Apparently Newman Cuban rented\nCliming to FDI\nFROM: TOM BETHELL\n544 Camp Street to\non 2 occasions:\n(1) oct '61 they FEB 162\nRE:\nUnidentified men at\n544 Camp Stree\nFor an period\nbeginning (2) \"MARCH APRIL\n(But contradute\netatement to 5/5\nSummary of interviews with SAM NEWMAN\nhe this any 544 not teat to Cuband\nSignature (62) gs\n1. 11/23/63 S.A. ANTHONY GERRETS\nS.S.\nCE 3119\n2. 11/25/63 S.A. WALLE & FOLSE\nFBI\nArchives, CD 75\n3.\n11/27/63\nSGT. AUSTIN & DET. FREY\n(N.O.P.D.)\nCE\n1413\n4.\n12/2/63\nS.A. RICE\nS.S.\nCE 1414\n5.\n1/18/67\nGEORGE ECKERT\n(BANISTER file)\n1. NEWMAN's initial interview on 11/23/63 resulted from the\ndiscovery that some of OSWALD's literature bore the address\n544 Camp Street stamped on it.\nNEWMAN related that he had rented office space to \"Cuban\nrevolutionaries\" over a period of three or four months, but that\nhe had evicted them because they got behind on the rent. After he\nhad evicted these revolutionaries, he discovered that \"an unknown\nsubject (white; male; 22/24; 5'9'2'2\"; 185 lbs.; fair complexion;\nlight brown hair; spoke with Spanish accent) had moved into the\nspace in the building vacated by the Cubans without notifying him.\nNEWMAN only saw him once \"and had no idea as to what his name\nmight be.\" NEWMAN gives no indication of the date of this\nencounter (either month or year).\nAccording to the same Secret Service report (CE 3119), one\nJAMES ARTHUS (\"apparently harmless protective Research subject of\nfile CC-2-32, 791\") at 544 Camp Street who \"stated that an unknown\nman had attempted to rent an office at 544 Camp Street, but that he\ndiscouraged him.\"\n2. In his interview with the FBI, NEWMAN advised that he rented\nthe office space to the Cubans \"approximately 8 or 9 months\nago, i.e. March or April 1963 He added that he did not\nrecollect seeing OSWALD in or around the building, nor had he\nrented any office space to the FPCC, or anyone by the name of\nOSWALD. Someone called him, in September 1963, however, wanting\nto rent office space, but NEWMAN did not see this individual, as\nhe put him in touch with the aforementioned JAMES ARTHUS the\njanitor.\nNEWMAN added that \"9 or 10 months ago\" (Jan. or Feb. 1963) a\ntall, thin man, aged about 38, with dark hair, did contact him and\npaid one month's rent for an office, which he was going to use to\nteach Spanish.\nThis is presumably not the same man NEWMAN had mentioned two\ndays earlier to the Secret Service, whom NEWMAN does not mention\nin this interview.\nR6:CARLOS QUIROGA\n1.\nYou have said you were in LEE OSWALD's company only on one\noccasion (i,c., when you attempted to \"infiltrate his\norganization\") Isn't it a fact that you were in OSWALD's\ncompany on a number of occasions?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNo\nS/R\n2.\nDo you have any first-hand knowledge of the conspiracy to\nassassinate President Kennedy?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nN/S/R No Specific reation\nDiewthanDowall\n3.\nTDO you know the names of the men who participated in\nkilling President Kennedy in Dallas?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nN/S/R No Specific reactions\n4.\nDid you know in advance that it was going to be done?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nN/S/R No Specific reactions\n5.\nDo you know the names of the two men who visited SYLVIA\nODIO in Dallas with LEE OSWALD?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nN/S/R W.O specific reactions\n6.\nHave you ever visited SYLVIA ODIO in Dallas?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nN/S/R No Specific reation\n7\nIn the late Summer and early Pall of 1963, LEE OSWALD is\noften seen in the company OF a stocky, unusually powerful\nman of Latin descent. This man is described by various\nwitnesses as being dark, unusually strong looking and\nhaving a very thick neck. TO you think you know the name\nof this man?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNo\nS/R Specific reactions\n8.\nYou have said you tried to \"infiltrate\" OSWALD's\n\"organization\". Isn't it a fact that you knew that his\n\"Fair Play for Cuba\" activities were merely a cover?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nS/R Specific reactions\n9.\nIs it not a fact that at that time OSWALD was in reality\na part of an anti-Castro operation?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNo\nS/R Specific reactions\n10.\nDo you know the names of the other men who were involved\nwith OSWALD in the New Orleans operation in 1963?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNo\nW/S/R No Specific reactions\n11.\nDid you participate in any way in the conspiracy to kill\nPresident Kennedy?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNo\nR/S/R No specific reaction\n12.\nDid SERGIO ARCACHA participate in any way in the conspiracy\nto kill President Kennedy?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nN/S/R No Spenific reation\n13.\nAccording to your own knowledge, did DAVID FERRIE know\nLEE OSWALD in 1963?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nM/S/R No Specific vactions\n14.\nDid CLAY SHAW?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nR/S/R Wo Specific Reactions\n15.\nDid SERGIO ARCACHA?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nS/R Specific reaction\n16.\nDid JACK RUBY?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nno\nMS/R No Specific is reactions\n17\nDid GUY BANISTER?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nS/R\nspecific praction\n18.\nDid GORDON NOVEL?\n}\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNo\nr/s/r No Sprific wastion\n19.\nDid any other persons, whom you know of, know LEE OSWALD\nin 1963? (We are not referring to chance encounters) ?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nS/R\n20.\nDo you know who got OSWALD his job at the Reily Coffee\nCompany?\nAnswer:\nNO\nEvaluation: 10/5/2 No Specific Reaction\n21.\nDo you know which individuals at the Reily Coffee Company\nwere aware of OSWALD's real mission in New Orleans?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nr/s/A vo Specific Pactions\n22\nPrior to the assassination of the President, did you ever\nsee any of the guns which were used in his assassination?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nS/R Specific Reactions\n23.\nDo you know where the men who killed President Kennedy\nstayed while they were in Dallas?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\nNo Specific Reaction\n24.\nDo you believe that you know who fired the shots from in\nfront of the President?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nno\nR/5/R No\n25.\nAfter the assassination, did you ever have occasion to\nsee (in real life, not on TV) any of the men who took\npart in it?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\npro\nM/S/R No Specific Peaction\n26.\nAccording to your own knowledge, did DEAN ANDREWS know\nabout any special mission in which OSWALD may have been\ninvolved in the Summer of 1963?\nAnswer:\nNO\nEvaluation: w/s/e no Specific Reactions\n27.\nDo you have reason to believe that DEAN ANDREWS knew about\nthe conspiracy to kill the President?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nnol\nR/S/R Wo specific Reactive\n28.\nDo you have reason to believe that DEAN ANDREWS knew\nCLAY SHAW before the assassination?\nAnswer:\nNo\nEvaluation: r/s/a No Specific Reactions\n29.\nOne witness we have located, saw LEE OSWALD with JACK RUBY\nat the Carousel Club in Dallas before the assassination.\nAt that time there were two other men with OSWALD. Do\nyou have reason to believe that you know who those men\nwere?\nAnswer:\nNO\nw/s/R Evaluation: no Specific Reacture\n30.\nOne of those men with OSWALD (at RUBY's) was a heavy set\nLatin type with a scar over his left eye. Do you have an\nidea who this heavy set man was?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNo\nu/s/R No specification\n31.\nThe other man with OSWALD at RUBY's was thin, pale com-\nplexioned and had long black hair. Do you have an idea\nwho that man was?\nAnswer:\npo\nMS/R Evaluation: No specificantion\n32.\nIn addition to the witnesses who testified at the hearing,\nthe State has others who saw CLAY SHAW with OSWALD. On\none of these occasions a tall, thin Cuban with a mustache\nwas with SAHW and OSWALD. : Do you believe you know who\nthis tall Cuban would be?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nno\nw/s/o 10 Specific denition\n33.\nWhen LEE OSWALD visited the Cuban Embassy in Mexico city\nin the early Fall of 1963, a heavy-set Latin acquaintance\nof his was waiting outside for him This man was very\nstocky and unusually powerful looking. Do you believe\nyou know the name of this man?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNO\n14/5/R No Spaific Reactions\n34.\nDo you believe you know who this man worked for?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nno\nr/s/e No Specific Reaction\n35\nDid SERGIO ARCACHA visit New Orleans on any occasions in\n1963?\nAnswer:\nEvaluation:\nNo\nS/R Specific Realis\n36.\nAccording to your knowledge or information, did any of\nthe following persons have any knowledge of LEE OSWALD's\nactivities prior to the assassination?\n(NOTE: Please circle each name to which an affirmative\nanswer is given and each name where a negative\nanswer is accompanied by signs of deception. Add\nany relevant comments desired.)\nwo a. Roberto Gomez Cortez\n100 b. Jesus Guajardo\nNo f. Nick J. Matrana\nNO C. Morris Brownlee\nNo g. Caridad Lopez (of Dallas)\nNOa. d. James Lewallen\nNo h. Luis Rabel\nNo e. Dante Marochino\nNo i. J. B. Dauenhauer\narcume\nExtratopy of\nCarlos Quirogi test\nScientific Lie Detection\nRE: CARLOJ QUIROGA\nExaminations\nPolygraph, Inc.\nPolygraph Examinations\nROY L. JACOB, SR.\nP.O. Box 914\nPhone HU. 6. 5120\nMETAIRIE, LA.\nMr. William Gurvich\n4/15/67\n610 Boydras Street\nSuite 309\nNew Orleans, Louisiana\nARRANGEMENTS:\nCarlos Couiraga\nAt your request, as cuban male age a\nresiding at one New Orleans, was examined\non the polygraph, a detection of deception technique.\nSubject matter statement in Mr. Garrison investigation.\nPRE-TEST INTERVIEW:\nIn the pre-test interview with subject he gave the\nfollowing information:\nSubject was born in Cuba and has completed /\neducation Subject married assession 8 and they maR\nRESULTS:\nSubject was given five(5) test.\nTEST#1.\nAfter careful analysis of this subject's first polygram\nit is the opinion of the examiner that he gave specific\nreactions indicative of deception to the relevant question\nunder examination:\nQuestion\n#4\nDeception:\nDo you have any first-hand knowledge of the conspiracy\n-\nto assassinate President Kennedy? Answer No.\nTEST#2.\nVerify Job Applications - Fidelity Integrity - Frouds - Inventory Shortages - Criminal - Personnel Screening - Portable Equipment Available\nEXAMINERS TRAINED BY WORLD FAMOUS\nKEELER POLYGRAPH INSTITUTE, OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS\nScientific Lic Detection\nExaminations\nPolygraph, Inc.\nPolygraph Examinations\nROY L. JACOB, SR.\nP.O. Box 914\nPhone HU. 6 5120\nMETAIRIE, LA.\nPage (2) Carlos Qurioga Cuban Male 30\nAfter careful analysis of this subject's second polygram\nit is the opinion of the examiner that he gave specific\nreactions indicative of deception to the relevant questions\nunder examination:\nQUESTION #2.\nIn the Summer of 1963 did you see Lee Oswald with any\nLatin decent subject? Answer No.\nQUESTION #3.\nIsn't it a fact that you knew that the Fair Play for Cuba\nactivities were merely a cover? Answer No.\nQUESTION #5.\nWas Oswald in reality part of af an anti-Castro operation?\nAnswer No.\nQUESTION#12.\nAccording to your own knowledge, did David Ferrie know\nSergio Arcacha? Answer No.\nTEST #3..\nAfter careful analysis of this subject's third polygram 1t\nis the opinion of the examiner that he gave specific reactions\nindicative of deception to the relevant questions under ex-\namination:\nQUESTION #3.\nAccording to your own knowledge, did David Ferrie know\nGuy Banister? Answer No.\nQUESTION#6.\nVerify Job Applications - Fidelity - Integrity - - Frouds Inventory Shortages - - Criminal Personnel Screening - - Portable Equipment Available\nEXAMINERS TRAINED BY WORLD FAMOUS\nKEELER POLYGRAPH INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO ILLINOIS\nScientific Lie Detection\nExaminations\nPolygraph, Inc.\nPolygraph Examinations\nROY L. JACOB, SR.\nP.O. Box 914\nPhone HU. 5120\nMETAIRIE, LA.\nPage (3) Carlos Quiroga Cuban Male 30.\nDo you know of any other person that knew Oswald in\n1963 other than by chance encounters? Answer No.\nQUESTION #10.\never Prior see to the assassination of the President, did you\nassination? Answer No.\nany of the guns which were used in his ass-\nTEST #4;\nAfter eareful analysis of this subject fourth polygram\nit is the opinion of the examiner that he told substanitally\nthe truth on his fourth examination.\nTEST #5\nAfter careful analysis of this subject's fifth polygram\n1t 1s the opinion of the examinr that he gave specific\nreactions indicative of deception to the relevant name:\nAccording to your knowledge or information, did any of the\nfollowing persons have any knowledge of Lee Oswald's act-\nivities prior to the assassination:\nCelso Hernandez? Answer No.\nSubject stated that the above subject had a fight with\nOswald on Canal Street.\nSUBJECT WAS SHOWN PHOTOGRAPHS OF SUBJECTS:\nSubject identified the following photographs:\n1. David Ferrie\n2. Sergio Arcacha\nVerify Job Applications Fidelity Integrity- Frauds Inventory Shortages Criminal Personnel Screening - Portable Equipment Available\nEXAMINERS TRAINED BY WORLD FAMOUS\nKEELER POLYGRAPH INSTITUTE. OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS\nScientific Lie Detection\nExaminations\nPólygraph, Inc.\nPolygraph Examinations\nROY L. JACOB, SR.\nP.O. Box 914\nPhone HU. 6-5120\nMETAIRIE, LA.\nFage (4) Carlos Quiroga Cuban Male 30\nCONCLUSIONS:\nAfter careful analysis of this subject's pòlygram it is\nthe opinion of the the examiner that this subject did not\ntell the complete truth during his examination and interr-\nogation.\nRespectfully submitted\nRoy L. Jacob Sr. Examiner\nVerify Job Applications - Fidality - Integrity - Frouds - Inventory Shortages - Criminal - Personnel Screening - Portable Equipment Available\nEXAMINERS TRAINED BY WORLD FAMOUS\nKEELER POLYGRAPH INSTITUTE. OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS\nNj. David Feirie\n10k. Clay Shaw\nNOI. Manuel Garcia Gonzalez\nNm. Clyde Johnson\nWin. Layton Martens\nNo. Ocelo Pedros (This is one of names which Emilio Santana\nflunked the machine on. Ivon has the\nMP. Joseph Milla\nproper name)\nMa. Harold Riviere\nDr. William Dalzell\nWs. Alvin Beaubouef\npot: u. t. Celso Jack Ruby Hernandez yes Had Dhall fight with\npov. v. Emilio Santana\nNOW. Emilio Torres\nNOX. Relatives of Emilio Torres\nNoy. Philip Geraci\nNZ. Elmer Lee Todd\n100a2 Eric Crouchet\nNb2 Louis Breto\nWgc2 Fabregas\nkba2 Bill Billeck\npoe2 John Irion\nMf2 Louis Breto\nNog2. Marina Oswald\nNh2. Julian Evans\nreactions to the said manual\nSubject gave no openific\nRry\nMEMORANDUM\nJanuary 12, 1967\nTO:\nJIM GARRISON, DISTRICT ATTORNEY\nTRAINING CAMPS\nN. & LAKE\nFROM: DET. C. JONAU & SGT. FENNER SEDGEBEER (Kamp at Big Branch, L.)\nRE:\nSMITH CASE\nSir:\nDet. C. Jonau and Sgt. F. Sedgebeer report of going to\nSt. Tammany Parish as per instructions. Upon arrival contacted\nDeputy Jay Sedgebeer who in turn introduced investigators to\nLt. Hudgeons of the St. Tammany Sheriff's Office.\nThe purpose of our mission was not disclosed to Lt.\nHudgions but he was very cooperative. The following information\nwas received from Lt. Hudgeons:\nAirline pilots that he personally knows of that live in\nthat area.\n1. Tex Kilcrease - 222 E. 7 th Avenue, Covington, La.\n(Also has private detective agency, Lt. Hudgeons says\nhe does not trust this subject.)\n2. John Potts River Rd., Covington\n3. Jack McKee. Folsom Rd, La. Highway 25\n4. Robert Meyers Hammond Hwy. Covington.\n5. Fred Dykes S. Filmore St., Covington\nHe states there are many more, but he does not know the\nnames, addresses, etc.\nChecked name of Anthony R. St. Philip to no avail.\nDeputy Sedgebeer and Lt. Hudgeons stated that the John Birch\nSociety is very strong in that area.\nthey\nIn reference to a house that was raided by FBI and Sheriff's\nOffice that contained weapons, ammunition, etc., about four years\n(Date and be approx\nof Cubrens + Minute Men\n8/30 n 31,1963. Misture\n(Mastly Culans)\n-2-\nago, Lt. Hudgeons stated that he remembered the incident but\ncould not find a police report of same. He stated that the whole\ninvestigation was handled by the Federals. He stated the location\nas well as he could remember was at Big Branch Louisiana on\nHighway 190 in a small cottage off the Highway. This was checked\nout and this house could possibly be on Pontchartrain Drive at\nBig Branch off 190. There are a group of houses on this road.\nAny further information in regards to the above Lt.\nHudgeons was instructed to call Ivon, Sedgebeer or Jonau.\nIn reference to training area in St. Tammany no one we\ntalked with knew of any training grounds in that area. Our\nobservation was that almost any location in that area could have\nbeen used and been kept secret because of the unpopulated\nwilderness of parts of the Parish.\nDet. C. Jonau\n: gt. F. Sedgebeer\nMEMORANDUM\nRe: KERRY THORNLEY\nMarch 4, 1968\n(GOLDSMITH info)\nTO: LOUIS IVON, Chief Investigator\nFROM: GARY SANDERS, Investigator\nRE:\nBERNARD GOLDSMITH\nRes: 512 Conti Bus: Tulane Medical\nApt. 4\nSchool Computer\n522-7055\nCenter\n865-7711\nSUBJECT: KERRY THORNLEY\nWILLIAM BRADY\nBERNARD ( aka BERNIE ) GOLDSMITH attended the discussion\nsessions held at IVAN's and was a frequent customer at the\nBOURBON HOUSE) and the RYDER COFFEE HOUSE. GOLDSMITH's name\nwas given to this office by BARBARA REED.\nI interviewed GOLDSMITH at his apartment at 6:00 pm on February\nthe 29th , 1968.\nBetween November 1962 and February 1964, GOLDSMITH worked for\nthe BOEING COMPANY which had its offices at 225 Baronne St.\nWhile working for the BOEING CO., GOLDSMITH lived at either\n512 or 517 St. Louis St. ( GOLDSMITH can not remember the address)\nfor 3 months, Nov. 1962 thru Jan. 1963. GOLDSMITH then moved\nto 322 Exchange Place in February of 1963 and remained there\nuntil February 1964.\nGOLDSMITH first met KERRY THORNLEY at either the Bourbon House\nor at the Ryder Coffee House. GOLDSMITH frequented the Ryder\nCoffee House and IVAN's discussion sessions and knows such\npeople as BARBARA REED, JACK FRAZIER, JACK BURNSIDES, JOHN\nKAMAS, ROSS BUCKLEY, HELEN GLADSTONE and WILLIAM BRADY.\nGOLDSMITH says that when he met THORNLEY, THORNLEY attempted\nto get into a political discussion with GOLDSMITH. GOLDSMITH\nsaid that if they were going to be friends they would have to\nrefrain from discussing politics (GOLDSMITH says that this was\nbecause THORNLEY was a right-winger, while he was a left-winger).\nGOLDSMITH said that discussing politics was \"one of his (THORNLEY)\ntoys\". GOLDSMITH described THORNLEY as very far right and in every\nconversation THORNLEY was \" going to be the arch conservative\".\nGOLDSMITH says that THORNLEY never mentioned LEE HARVEY OSWALD\nbefore the Assassination. GOLDSMITH never saw OSWALD at any\ntime either with THORNLEY or alone. GOLDSMITH said that he knew\nTHORNLEY was writing a book about his experiences in the Marine\nCorps. THORNLEY told GOLDSMITH the book was pattered after some-\none. THORNLEY had known in the service (THORNLEY did not indicate\nwhom). GOLDSMITH said that he and THORNLEY used to sit around\ntrying to think up a title for THORNLEY's book.\nGOLDSMITH says that the night of the Assassination, THORNLEY\nwent into the Bourbon House (GOLDSMITH was present) and said,\n\" have you heard the good news\". After the Assassination THORNLEY\nMEMORANDUM\nPAGE 2\nRE: BERNARD GOLDSMITH\ntold GOLDSMITH that he had known OSWALD in the Marines.\nGOLDSMITH says that since he had a secret clearance be descided\nnot to see THORNLEY anymore. The last time GOLDSMITH saw\nTHORNLEY was in January of 1964. GOLDSMITH says that he never\nloaned THORNLEY any money, but if he did THORNLEY must have\npaid it back.\nGOLDSMITH met WILLIAM BRADY at IVAN's discussion sessions.\nGOLDSMITH said of BRADY, \" he turns me off,( refering to the\nfact that BRADY was gay). When I asked GOLDSMITH what he thought\nof BRADY, he replied, # he (BRADY) struck me as somehow dangerous\",\n\"something wasn't right about him (BRADY)\". GOLDSMITH describes\nBRADY as # radical, extremist, violent segregationist and some-\nwhat gay\". GOLDSMITH did not like BRADY because of the afore-\nmentioned \"qualities\" and thusly did not associate with him.\nGOLDSMITH says that BRADY actually became violent at some of\nthe meetings at IVAN's and that BRADY never missed a chance\nto jump on a soap box to denounce something or someone.\nGOLDSMITH was very cooperative and said that if this office\nhad any further questions he would be available.\nGary Sanders\nCC: Andrew Sciambra\nGMS/gs\nRe: FERRIE\nMEMORANDUM\nSSN\nMarch 3, 1967\nTO:\nJIM GARRISON, DISTRICT ATTORNEY\nFROM:\nJULIAN R. MURRAY, JR., ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY\nRE:\nKENNEDY ASSASINATION INVESTIGATION\nOn March 2, 1967, a MR. LOUIS JONES who is a victim in\na case which I am prosecuting in Section \"B\" came in to give some\ninformation which he thought might be useful to our office. I\nwas unable to tell whether or not this information would be of\nany value, but I thought I should pass it along to you for what-\never it's worth.\nMR. JONES explained to me that his father is an invalid\nand it is therefore necessary that his mother, MRS. WILLIAM B.\nJONES, hire male nurses to stay with him at all times. Somewhere\nin January of 1965 they hired a male nurse who stayed with them\nfor about two months. MRS. JONES recalls that when she hired this\nsubject, he had a letter of recommendation from a person who pur-\nported to be either a psychiatrist or a psychologist whose last\nname was FERRIE and who lived on Louisiana Avenue Parkway. The\nsubject whom she hired gave the name of JIMMIE JOHNSON and at the\ntime he informed her that he was living with MR. FERRIE at his\napartment on Louisiana Avenue Parkway. She said that she could\nnot remember much about this subject except that he was very\neffeminate. She still has her cancelled check with which she\npaid him his salary in January of 1965, and she also has his\nsocial security number which was 420-56-5635.\nMR. JONES requests that if anyone in our office cares\nto speak with his mother about this matter, that we contact him\nfirst. He pointed out that she was an elderly person with a heart\ncondition and he is afraid that a lot of questioning would greatly\nupset her unless he were present.\nR:JHAW\nMEMORANDUM\nRe: THORNLEY\nTO: LOUIS IVON, Chief Investigator\nFROM: GARY SANDERS, Investigator\nSUBJECT: VIRGINIA JOHNSON CLAY SHAW'S MAID\n6434 N. Derbigny St.\n279-7228\nThe following information was obtained from an\ninterview conducted at the home of VIRGINIA JOHNSON on the\n15th of January, 1968 between 8:20 PM and 9:30 PM. Miss Jody\nDuek took the notes at this meeting which were used to write\nthis report.\nKERRY THORNLEY'S CANDLORD AT TIME OF ASSASSINATION\nMRS. VIRGINIA JOHNSON, Social Security Number\n434-36-5071, worked for CLAY SHAW for about 9 years. She quit\nduring Hurricane \"Betsy\" because her home had been flooded.\nMrs. JOHNSON is now employed by JACK SPENCER ( JOHN R. SPENCER\n1805 Esplanade St. ,943-8236) on Mondays and Thursdays from\n9 AM to 5 PM. Mrs. JOHNSON did not recognize the name KERRY\nTHORNLEY and the only time she ever worked at 1824 Dauphine St.\nwas when she cleaned up an upstairs apartment. Mrs. JOHNSON\nhas worked for SPENCER since \"Betsy\" and she gave no reason for\nhaving left the employment of CLAY SHAW. She has also worked\nfor the \" Plantation Home \" in the French Quarter.\nMrs. JOHNSON said that she had made the black robe and\nhood for SHAW before Mardi Gras of 1959 or 1960 and she would\npress these garments before each Carneval season.\nMrs. JOHNSON said she would recognize someone if they\nhad visited SHAW, but she admitted she did not see many of his\nvisitors. She said SHAW was always very nice to her and always\ntreated her well. She was very surprised to hear that SHAW had\nbeen arrested. Mrs. JOHNSON said she had never heard the name\nBERTRAND and had never seen any letter addressed to CLAY BERTRAND\nat the Dauphine Street address. ( Check memo on VIRGINIA JOHNSON\nrelating to an interview with persons at Balthazor Fabric Store\non Franklin Ave. were witnesses state that Mrs. JOHNSON did\nsee a letter addressed to CLAY BERTRAND, 1313 Dauphine St. New\nOrleans, La.) Mrs. JOHNSON describes her encounter at Balthazor\nFabrics as a laughing and Joking session in which she and some\nof the salesladies talked about SHAW and the fact that she had\nworked for him and had made his black robe and hood.\nMrs. JOHNSON says that she did see JACK SPENCER at\nSHAW'S house , but never the reverse. She said that both SPENCER's\nand SHAW's dogs were the same breed, Weimaraner.\nMrs. JOHNSON said SHAW was visited by a Mr. J.B. or\nJ.C. on many occasions. This individual was employed at the\nInternational Trade Mart and his last name began with a \"D\".\nOne person that visited SHAW was a MISS LYONS, an older woman\nwho had grey hair, but was still very attractive. Most of the\nwomen who visited SHAW were elderly and the men were generally\nin their twenties.\nVIRGINIA JOHNSON\nJanuary 16,1968\npage 2\nI showed Mrs. JOHNSON my picture file and she did\nseem to recognize LAYTON MARTENS and TOMMY COX mainly from the\ngeneral description of \" light hair and skinny \". She did not\nremember seeing any Cubans at SHAW's house and never saw FERRIE,\nOSWALD or any other persons that have been publicized on tele-\nvision.\nMrs. JOHNSON's working schedule was daily and she\nwould arrive at SHAW's at about 3 PM when she would clean the\napartment and prepare SHAW's dinner at about 5PM. She generally\nleft between 5 and 6 PM so she was not in a position to have\nknown who SHAW had as visitors during the evening hours.\nOne year ( unknown ) when Mrs. JOHNSON went on a\ntwo week vacation, SHAW hired a ONELL BELL ( 1815 Delery St.\n279-6647 ) for 2 weeks to take her place. When Mrs. JOHNSON\nreturned she said SHAW had been very dissatisfied with Mrs. BELL,\nbut he did not say why.\nThe method that SHAW used to pay MRS. JOHNSON is also\nvery interesting since on the surface it looks as though SHAW may\nhave been using some illegal tax deductions. SHAW paid VIRGINIA\nJOHNSON $35.00 a week by check made out to her. SHAW also gave\nher a check for $20.00 a week, also made out to her, for groceries\nand other items for the house. This is a total of $55.00 a week\nthat Shaw could claim on his income tax as salary paid to MRS.\nJOHNSON MRS. JOHNSON asked SHAW about this arrangement and he\nsaid he was paying her Social Security so she did not have to\nworry.\nIt might be interesting to find out if he was\nclaiming the $55.00 per week as a deduction rather than the $35.00\na week.\nRe: SHAW\n( Bernadas Weise)\nMEMORANDUM\nMay 5, 1969\nTO:\nJIM GARRISON, District Attorney'\nFROM:\nANDREW J. SCIAMBRA, Assistant District Attorney\nRE:\nSHAW LEADS II FILE\n(MAX HILL LEAD)\nLt. Fred Soule and I interviewed JULES WEISS and\nMIKE BERNADAS in regard to OSWALD coming into their store in 1963\n(July) seeking employment. WEISS informed me that OSWALD just\nwalked into his store one day seeking a job as a photographer.\nWEISS said that he never did introduce himself and merely said\nthat he had experience in photography and was seeking work in\nthat field. WEISS said that he told him that he did not need\nany help and referred him to MAX HILL and JACK BEACH, 709 Royal\nStreet. WEISS said that OSWALD thanked him and before he left\nasked him for fifty cents. WEISS said that this surprised him\nbecause OSWALD was neat and did not look like a panhandler.\nHe said OSWALD did not ask for full-time employment but said that\nhe was looking for part-time work to hold him over. WEISS said\nthat he never told anyone about this incident as it was quite\ninsignificant. He said that after the assassination he recognized\nOSWALD's picture as the person who came into his store looking\nfor a job, however, he said that he still didn't tell anyone\nabout this incident.\nWEISS said that sometime in early December, the\nFBI came to his place of business and asked him if OSWALD had\ntried to get a job from him. He told the FBI that he thought\nthat the person whom he had talked to was OSWALD, but that\nOSWALD never introduced himself. The FBI told him that they\nknew it was OSWALD because OSWALD had used BERNADAS & WEISS as a\nreference on one of his job applications. The FBI said that\nOSWALD had put on the application that he worked there for three\nmonths. WEISS said that he gave the FBI the same story that he\ngave us and said that the FBI thanked him and that was the last\nhe heard about the matter.\nWe then talked to BERNADAS and BERNADAS was not\nworking there at the time and therefore could be of no help in\nthis matter.\nWEISS informed us that he knows CLAY SHAW from\nseeing him around the Quarter and that on two occasions SHAW came\nto a book review party that he had given for two authors. He\nsays that he has never seen SHAW with OSWALD or FERRIE and that he\nhas never seen FERRIE in person and that he only saw OSWALD on\nthis one occasion.\nMemo dated 3/28/69\nANDREW J. SCIAMBRA\nRo: may Hell\nfead # XIV\nFor\nMEMORANDUM\nRe: Banister\nOctober 9, 1968\n+R+ wing\nTO:\nJIM GARRISON, District Attorney\nFROM:\nANDREW J. SCIAMBRA, Assistant District Attorney\nRE:\nInterview with HENRY O. PALMER, Clinton, La.\nI talked to Mr. PALMER in relation to information concerning GUY\nBanister\nBANISTER. PALMER told me that he and BANISTER were together in\nthe Army in 1944, stationed in Orlando, Florida. PALMER said that\narmy\nBANISTER was doing intelligence work in the Army. PALMER said\nthat after he separated from BANISTER in Florida, he (PALMER)\nwent to Japan and never saw BANISTER again. He said he has never\nseen BANISTER in Clinton, Louisiana, and has no knowledge about\nBANISTER and RATLIFF trying to organize the Klan around Clinton\nand Jackson, Louisiana.\nHe said RICHARD VAN BUSKIRK was in town for a couple of days about\na month ago. He said VAN BUSKIRK could give us some information\nabout BANISTER. I contacted VAN BUSKIRK's daughter, MRS. BRUNT,\nat 683-5864, and she told me that VAN BUSKIRK's present address\nis:\nRICHARD VAN BUSKIRK\nc/o Crystal Springs Trailer Park\nRoute #7\nLafayette, Louisiana\nAlso, MELBA CAVANAUGH who was a close friend of GLORIA WILSON's is\nback from Alaska and living in Baton Rouge somewhere. I talked\nwith JOE COOPER in Baton Rouge and COOPER told me that he could\ngive me the names of some people who could give us a lot of\ninformation on BANISTER and also that he would let us look over\na file that he has on DR. CARL MCINTYRE. He said HOUSTON MARVIS\nor a man named JONES may be able to give us some information\nabout RATLIFF.\nDistrict Attorney's REFUSAL Slip\nFile\nDistrict\n1st\nACCUSED\nGuy Banister am n\nPolice Item Nok No 12634-63\nCHARGE (S) : R.S none\nDate of Offense 11/22/63\nDate of Refusal 12/8/63\nReason Insuff Evid\nNo Evid. of Crim Negl\nRef. to Mun. Ct\nREASONS\nVerting July mantin class not much to\nprosent See statements attached\nErmansas\nRefused By:\nA** stant District Attorney\nlov 22 8 les PH 196'\nCOMPLAINT\nB'CAST REPORT 10-97\nDISTRICT OR\nBUREAU & CAR #\n10+11 ITEM # K-12634\nLOCATION\n13H N. Prieur H.\nSIGNAL\n1/43 Beating\n1533 PR # - 19\nCODE 1-2-3\nCOMPL. & ADDRESS mr Jack martin\nyo 9\nTAILS\nBagtist Hosp By Hosp\nord\nC-322 C- 322\n22\nNev\nDISPOSITION\nIF \"OTHER\" EXPLAIN\nNO CAR\nGOA\nNTI\nNOA\nADVISED\nHANDLED\nCOPY\nRTF\nTIME\nFORM #12\nC-10\n3\n(Ifeed Feba\nof Oswold file\nMEMORANDUM\nAugust 31, 1967\nTO:\nJIM GARRISON, District Attorney\nFROM:\nTOM BETHELL\nRE:\nInterview with Mrs. A. C. JOHNSON\n-\nAfter returning from Ft. Worth with Bill Boxley on\nThursday, August 24, 1967, Boxley and I visited 1026 N. Beckley\nAvenue, where we interviewed Mrs. A. C. JOHNSON.\nAs she was preparing supper we stayed only a short time\nto avoid antagonizing her in case we wanted to see her again.\nShe furnished the information that OSWALD would use the\npay telephone in thehall \"2 or 3 times a day\" and would speak\nRussian.\nShe told us that OSWALD kept his room neatly despite the\nfact that he ate make-shift meals in there. She added that she\nwas surprised that they discovered a pistol holster in his room\nand then went on to explain that of course she never would do such\na thing as to look through his dresser drawers. It was clear to\nBoxley and I that she obviously had looked through his things,\notherwise, she would have had no basis for being surprised at the\ndiscovery of the holster.\nMrs. JOHNSON also said that in the turmoil in OSWALD's\nroom following the assassination, one of the curtain rods was bent\nor pulled down by a detective.\nIt was noted that access to OSWALD's room is via the\nmain living room, where residents frequently sit and watch\ntelevision. In other words, OSWALD did not have a private\nentrance to his room.\nAgency\nNA Number N8640\nExpiration MAY 27 1968\nI, a resident of ORLEANS\nParish, apply to use the New\nOrleans Public Library I agree to observe the rules of the Library and to\nbe responsible for all items borrowed on my card.\nPrint\nName\nOswald LEE\n11.\nLast\nFirst\nMiddle\nHome address 4907 MAGAZINE Phone -\nOccupation Mechanic Employer Wor. B. Reily co\nBusiness address 640 MAGAZINE Business phone 2.\nSignature\nYou Swort\n(OVER: Students Only)\n5-16/\nSTUDENTS ONLY\nName of school\nName of parent\nWhere parent works\n-\n111 *ON\nCOMMISSION EXHIBIT 777\n644\nRe:Guy GUY BANISTER\nJanuary 18, 1967\nDalaa\nTO:\nJIM GARRISON, DISTRICT ATTORNEY\nRe:\nfiles\nGB\nFROM:\nGEORGE ECKERT, INVESTIGATOR\nRE:\nINTERVIEW OF SAM NEWMAN, W/M, Age 50 Years.\n(Former owner of Newman Bldg., 544 Camp St.)\nI interviewed Mr. Sam Newman at 1:30 P.M. on\nJanuary 18, 1967 with regard to Guy Banister & Associates and\nthe \"Free Cuban Movement\".\nMr. Newman told me at this time that he didn't have\nany of his records as he had given all of them to the F.B.I. and\nthe U. S. Secret Service. Mr. Newman asked me whether or not the\nOffice of the District Attorney or I was investigating the death\nof President Kennedy. I told him it was something stemming from\nthis. He then told me he had heard about this before and that one\nJack Martin told him that he would probably be called upon to be\ninterviewed.\nMr. Newman told me that when he bought the building\nfrom Metro Realty (Mr. Copping), Guy Banister had already been a\ntenant in the building; that he could not remember any dates be-\ncause he didn't have his records; but that during the time he\nowned the building Guy Banister had owed him back rent (amount\nunknown); that when Banister got into trouble with the Internal\nRevenue, all the furniture in Banister's office had been seized,\nincluding the files. Mr. Newman purchased all the office furniture,\nincluding 5 filing cabinets, from the Internal Revenue hoping he\ncould recover some of the money owed to him for back rent. The\noffice furniture he kept and he can't remember what had happened\nto it. The 5 files (metal cabinets and contents were sold to Mrs.\nBanister for $25.00 (date unknown). She had them removed from his\nbuilding on Camp Street to her home on Canal Boulevard.\nMr. Newman said that he could not remember the names\nof the people who were his tenants back in 1963, but that many of\nthem owed him back rent when they left. Mr. Newman also told me\nthat the Federal people and the Secret Service have questioned him\non several occasions about the \"Fair Play For Cuba Movement\" and\nthe people involved, and that they would have all of the infor-\nmation. He said he could not remember anything at all about 1962\nand 1963 without his records.\nIt is the opinion of the interviewer that Mr. Newman\nwas annoyed by the interview and it appeared that he did not want\nto become involved in this investigation, therefore, the interview\nwas very short.\nGEORGE ECKERT\nMEMORANDUM\nRe: FERRIE\nFebruary 3, 1967\nTO:\nJIM GARRISON, DISTRICT ATTORNEY\nFROM:\nAGENT #1\nRE:\nSMITH CASE\nALVIN BEAUBOUEF visited DAVE at his office on about\nJanuary 26th. They had a brief conversation and BEAUBOUEF left.\nI think the reason for his wanting to see DAVE was because of\nsome kind of mix-up with the flight log books. The FAA called\nBEAUBOUEF and wanted to see his flight log book because they\nthought he had cheated on some flying time. The FAA checked into\nit and found out that BEAUBOUEF'S log book didn't match with\nDAVE'S. So, they called in the last three people that DAVE\nsigned the log books for private pilot's licenses, and their log\nbooks didn't match with what DAVE had in his. So, DAVE buys new\nlog books. They all get together to make the new log books match\nDAVE'S. DAVE forged two or three names.\nQ. Are they still working on these log books of DAVE'S?\nA. Yes. They were working on them last night. They\nonly have one to go.\nQ. Has Beaubouef been around lately?\nA. No. This is the first time I've seen him in\napproximately two months.\n/leb"
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