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TELCON Marvin Kalb - CBS Mr. Kissinger 1-27-69 tx 7:30 PM Kalb asked when Pres talked today about linking start of missile talks with tother other outstanding political problems, did he mean that kind of linkage - does there literally have to be progress in other areas before talks can start? Mentioned Middle East as illustration. HAK said he did not quite understand what Kxadxtkx Kalb was driving at - asked whether he meant does he have to have actual progress or would promise of progress be enough. HAK CXEXIX said he certainly wants to change the approach. HAK discussed phrases in 1960s and 1960s - said Pres is trying to say something in between. He doesn't mean we have to settle Middle East issue before we settle Arms Control - have tohave some idea that tensions are not being multiplied elsewhere and some movement - some hope of progress. MK asked whether there is necessary stage of pre-negotiation or can it be as result of normal processes of diplomacy. HAK said it could be either, he thought. Form is not important SO long as message gets through and SO long as results are achieved. Kalk asked whether there is at this point a plan to approach Russians on xxikatexix bilateral basis - HAK said we are reviewing it this week. jm Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.

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