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TELCON Secy Laird Mr. Kissinger 2-20-69 5:00 PM L said they held forth over there for three or four hours. L said he indicated the way he leans - it will be the hard position and it will be bloody for a little while. K said the President will really appreciate this - said he and President were talking earlier about White House- Defense relations and he is most grateful. L said if we can keep everyone quiet for ten days we will come out fine. L said it makes the trip much more important too as far as talks are concerned. L said he thinks we have ourselves in the best position we could be in. K said he would make sure the President knows this. jm Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.

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