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Pres -- Did he check that with Lodge? Will that wash with Ky?
K I think Saigon will be horrified when they hear of this.
Pres We will back off. Lodge hasn't said this yet.
K -- It's being sent to Lodge; that's how I got it. I think we can
get Lodge under control through Habib.
Pres -- Do that Monday. I will start looking at the instructions
myself and dictate my own reactions. That will bring them around
fast. I should get somelimemo out on the private talks. Lodge has
to know this -- say to Bill, one thing is very important. Lodge
and the President talked to Ky -- we have to be sure we have told
Ky to have private talks with the NLF. We have to be sure Ky
agrees. This is very important. Tell Bill to send a cable.
K -- They will interpret that as authority to beat away at Ky to
agree.
Pres -- You can't order him to do it. The best thing is to wait
until you can tell Hanoi what you think.
K - Lodge doesn't technically have authority for private talks.
Why don't we leave it that you reserve the right to give authority.
Pres -- It will be interesting to see what happens on the other side.
K -- If they hit us, we must refuse to have private talks for
another week.
Pres -- We cannot stand back and not hit them. Let us suppose
between now and next Wednesday, they shell us again and we have not yet
hit Kaswan (?).
K There is also the 7th NVN division 10 miles away from Kaswan (?)
if they shell us again.
Pres -- We cannot tolerate one more of these without hitting back.
We have already warned them. Presumably they have stopped.
If they hit us again, we will hit them with no warning. That is
the way we are going to do it. I can't tolerate argument from
Rogers on this. You only warn once. However, if they don't
hit us, we are screwed.
Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library
DECLASSIFIED
This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.
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