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TELCON
Julius Stratton
Mr. Kissinger
4-23-69
6:55 PM
K said he had called Mac about the NSF problem which resulted
from bad staff work more than anything. S said he understood
SO well what had happened. K said on private basis he would like
to tell S the following. K said we have reviewed various things
that could be done, such as meeting with the Board of Nation al
Academy, making firm statement, etc. K said then as they were
talking, President decided easiest way to undo is to go back to
Long. K said he went to Long on a personal basis and had a long
talk with him. K said he did rather than DuBridge because
we did not want to make it official. He was responsive but after
thinking about it for 24 hours, Long decided he could not begin
with possible Senatorial fight, etc. Long indicated that if we
wanted his help in connection with any possible appointee, he
would be more than willing to talk to him. K whx said while
this won't undo all the damage, we are gbing to appoint him to
PSAC and he will get a Presidential appointment - which is about
as much as we can do. S said he had tried to reach Long but
was unable to and planned to call Mac tomorrow about what
happens next.
K said there are two choices which have occurred to us. K said this
has not been discussed with Lee yet SO it would be embarrassing if
it got back to him before K talks to him. S said he understood.
K said, one, we could go back to Piore (who was first choice) and
ask him to reconsider; * two, we can ask Council of National Academy
to meet with Pres and ask them to come up with three X nominations,
K said Piore does not need this as he has already been recommeded
by the Board. S said it was his understanding that Piore weighed
pain of undertaking and IBM and later withdrew. S said he thought
Piore needed some encouragement - he has all the background from
back in days of ONR, etc. K said he had a call from Kistiakowsky
who was SO overwrought by Harvard and felt put upon. S said,
frankly that is why he hesitated about Council because of George.
S said K may not know, but feelings between Sipes and Kistiakowsky
are strained. K said that is another thing - they are asking up
to keep Sipes out of such a meeting and K does not know wh how we
do that. S said on balance he would have a try at Piore - some of
his friends could encourage it. If Piore won't do it, nothing is Jost
as there is still the Council. K asked if we go Council route
Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library
DECLASSIFIED
This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.
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