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TELCON William Sullivan Mr. Kissinger 7-15-69 9:30 AM S said he was calling on business of what Cabot says in private session - does not know from whom they came but he has a couple of suggestions that K made. K said one point which seemed inconsistent concerned the first time he talks about withdrawal. S said he did not catch that and K is entirely correct and that will be put in. K said the other point derives from something the President said to K that we should not push a lot of different kinds of elections right now. S asked if K had read what Thieu said in backgrounder and K said no. Ksaid that he thought we could meet the President's point by keep ing that instruction as a response - that we do not volunteer it. S said o.k. - he has no strong feeling. S said he knows Thieu wants to keep it as vague as possible. K said we could fudge what we said. S said he did not like the word control in connection with rate of withdrawal - suggested the word influence. K agreed. K asked whether they have agreed to a meeting yet. S said he does not know - he has not heard from Paris yet. jm Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.

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