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Senator Percy
4:50 p. m. 7/16/69
More discussion on Vietnam statement from Senators. P thought we lost
the day with the hawks. Aiken's reaction to what he saw on the floor made
him flee. P said it is difficult being associated with the hardliners.
During the Monday morning session they are planning a colloquy. Aiken
has prepared a statement which K asked to have sent over. Mansfield said
he would engage in it too. He asked if K wanted to send over some notes
for Symington to follow and K said he would do SO in the morning.
P said he also discussed this with Fulbright. They got into a discussion
re SALT and wanted to know if there was anything futher on it. K said
no, we might know something by Friday. P was afraid Fulbright would go
to Harriman. Fulbright wanted assurance from K personally that we would
abide by any government. K said he could give that assurance but it would
be harmful if the fact was made public that we would drop the Thieu govern-
ment. K said if free elections were held and the people voted for the
communists, we would insist that Thieu uphold the letter of agreement and
abide by the new government. K said he would call Fulbright.
P said Cooper was hung up on the unilateral withdrawal part. Cooper thinks
P is going too far with the statement. P also talked to Gore. The most he
could do with him was to get him at least not to condemn us. Gore is hung
up on the same things that Harriman is, i.e. lessening of fighting. K said
they have to give us romm for tactics. P said if someone could talk to him
on that point, he may be helpful. K mentioned again that we didn't want an
endorsement of all of our policies just that they have prepared a reasonable
form for negotiations.
P said Muskie was doubtful. It was politics with him, and he doesn't know
what he wants to do. He doesn't want to talk substance. P asked for names
of anyone else K would like him to contact, and K sa id he would think on that.
P discussed lead time parts on Spartan and Sprint. He said he would put in
an amendment if there is a dollar limitation and if it would help Packard.
He didn't think they would vote on it until the President returned from the trip.
K thanked him for all his help.
Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library
DECLASSIFIED
This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.
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