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TELCON
Secy Laird
Mr. Kissinger
7-21-69 12:55 PM
L said there are a couple of things he should discuss with President
before he leaves. One, possible change of orders. L said we have some
language. K said Pres wants to see Wheeler and should not see him
alone in any event. K will make it a joint meeting. L said O. k. but
he should see Pres before he sees Wheeler. There are a few changes
to be made and Pres should understand those before he runs into them
cold. K said it will certainly be arranged - only question is when.
L a sked when Pres would be seeing Wheeler and K said it would not
be before tomorrow afternoon. L said he should talk to Pres before
he sees Wheeler or go over it with K so he understands it.
L said maybe K does not want to make those changes yet. K said
he is seeing Pres at 3:00 on internal business and will take matter
up re Laird being in on Wheeler meeting and also find out if Pres
wants L to see K.
L said the next thing he wanted to discuss is mining problem.
L said he did not think it was imminent but asked if K would like to
take the contingency plans with him. K said he should look at them.
L said he had two copies and would send one over to K this after-
noon and hold the other copy.
L said last problem is manner in which we respond as far as gas problem.
K said he tried to reach L on Saturday and when he could not
talked with Packard. L said he did not understand why he could not
be reached - he, Mitchell and Rogers played golf at 9:00 AM. His
office knew where he was but the WH kept calling his home
L went on to say he thought it would present some problem particularly
if we put it on the back of Dubridge. L said the wire to Japan indicates
this, according to procedures laid out by the Science Adviser.
L read K an AP story. L said he thinks we should try to keep the
President out of it as much as we can and L thinks we put Presiden t
in it by using President's scientific adviser. K said he agrees.
L said Defense should take the rap for it rather than the White House.
K and L agreed to meet for breakfast tomorrow morning at the
Pentagon xb at 7:30 in order to discuss various things.
L also brought up rebuilding of Situation Room - first request was for
2, 340, 000 and another request for 2, 461, 000. L said on these
WH requests, Senators have asked for personael limits. L said they
do have to give transfers used out of Defense Budget and there is
request for 36 more personnel spaces. L said he thought he and K should
Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library
DECLASSIFIED
This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.
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