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    "ocrText": "TELCON\nMr. Elliot Richardson\nMr. Kissinger\n7-21-69 5:10 PM\nK said he was calling about Verification Panel scheduled for\ntomorrow. K does not anticipate that it will be a very long\nmeeting but K said he did not think R had worked with this intelligence\nstuff as much as he had. One of problems K has had is he has never\ngone into it without finding extraordinary ambiguities. K said\nPres asked him to chair this panel and in K's absence he wondered\nif R C ould keep a benevolent eye on the operation - or a\nrigorous eye. R said he would be glad to. K said he does not think\nthe President can be asked to make a decision on basis of\n\"you must take a chance for peace, 11 etc. K said he thinks we should\ntell him what an intelligent evader would do and then let him decide.\nK said also, what you can do with the information politically if you\nget some. K cited example of someone coming in today re\nupgrading of some of our air defense for missile defense with very\nminor changes. K said if you dax can do it on our side you have to\nassume same may be possible on the other.\nK said his recommendation tomorrow is going to be that we get a working\ngroup together to make a report in a week or SO of what\nthe state of our intelligence is, what the manueuvering ? capabilities\nare with respect to major elements of retaliatory forces, and thexax\nthen, with particular reference to MIRV and AMX ABM, what\nverification capabilities are and where the disagreements are.\nR said he also thinks we should be sure that there are not any\ndevices for dealing with - in MIRV question particularly - --\nare there techniques without opening up the warhead that could\ntell us what is in there.\nK asked R what he would think of Larry Lynn chairing the working\ngroup for K's staff. R said he did not know him well but think\nhighly of him from what he has heard of him and it's O. k. with him.\nK said in his absence, he would ask Larry to deal with R as\nchairman. R said he takes it that the evolution of this is such that\nGerry should not be chairman. K said right - besides Pres has\nput into NSC in such a way. K and R discussed Smith and K said he\ngathered R had had a word with him. K said Pres was more forthcoming\nthat he would ever have been otherwise. at their meeting today.\nR referred to Israeli thing and whether XX he and Packard should do\nanything along the lines of their previous conversation. K said he has\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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