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    "ocrText": "Telecon\nSecretary Laird\n11:55 a.m. 9/5/69\nLaird said he just survived a long lunch with Fulbright. Fulbright\ndoesn't understand why, when he had been promised, that the plan\nwas not delivered to the committee and he thinks we are going\nahead with a major xxx ploy. He thinks we decided to quickly go\nforward with troop reductions and not make an announcement. K\nsaid we arent' as clever as he is. Laird told him we were still\nat the 515 body count.\nK said the President asked about the seabeds thing and K wanted\nto know how strong Laird felt about the 3 vs 12-mile issue. Laird\nthought the 12-mile was fine if we could have some language put in there\nabout the accessibility of the straits. This is a matter than can't\nbe worked out later. The Russians won't object to that stance in\nthe treaty. K asked if he could get State to go along with that,\nwould it be o.k. Laird indicated he talked to Rogers and they\nboth agreed. Jerry Smith came in really too late on this and said\nwe can't even raise the question. We told Jerry that the Russians\ndidn't object.\nK said on the troop thing, he thought the papers Laird sent him\nwere helpful.\nLaird mentioend that Bunker is here and wanted to meet with the\nJoint Chiefs on Monday to discuss Southeast Asia. Laird thought\nthat HAK, Rogers and he had decided it would be a bad idea to have\ntoo many southeast Asia meetings going on in Washington this week.\nLaird was going to send HAK a note on the Thai negotiations. He\nthought there was some confusion as to the instructions going to\nthe negotiators. There are four different courses they can follow.\n(1) balanced package taking into consideration the opportunity\nto protect Thailand and the Laotians and maintain the option to\ngo north; (2) put primary emphasis on going north; (3) put primary\nemphasis on protecting Laos and Thailand; (4) give no direction to\nthe negotiators. K said the fourth one, he was sure the President\nwouldn't want. K thought the President might support the first,\nbut wanted to see all of them. Laird said the negotiators have to\nhave something to go on and it depends on how long you want to main-\ntain the capability of going north. K asked for the proposals by\nTuesday but Laird said the problem with that is they are meeting\nright now. K said he would try to get an answer just as soon as\nhe could since Laird would be sending out something today. K\nsaid he couldn't give any direction on his own; he needed the\nproposals to put before the President. Laird thought we should go\nfor a balance and maintain the option to go north as long as possible.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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