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TELCON
General Wheeler
Mr. Kissinger
9:35 a. m. , 9-16-69
W said I wanted to talk to you about the statement "approximately
60, 500 troops" K said I just want you to know the President is
willing to have an understanding between us that you are not going
to get pushed like the last time. W said I think this is disastrous.
The effect on Abrams will be very bad indeed.
K said you are appealing to the wrong guy. I was called by the
President at 8:00 p. m. last nite and he ordered it differently.
He says he will not push you beyond 60, 000 and he is going to
guarantee that you will not be pushed. W said well he is the boss.
K said I understand you. I frankly did not know that your troops were
down SO low. I don't mean the 539, 000 at the beginning. Lemos
led me to believe they would go from 515 to 535 again. W said the
problem is every time a plane takes off or lands, this land changes.
K said I need to know when something bothers you before it gets
into bureaucratic channels. I understood we were up to 525.
If that were the case, there would be no problem. If you see
something that concerns you Bus. If you come to me on a private
basis - just tell me as an American I am concerned, I give you
my word it will go to the President immediately. I have no interest
in being in this job when we lose our first war. W said I wanted to
tell you I thought that other operation went very well. <said the
one I talked to you about? W said yes. K said, and we can go ahead
as planned. And Bus, you tell me in the next few days what sort
of checks I should put in the process so that you will not get stamped
on figures. If I get hit with it, then it is too late.
mlh
Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library
DECLASSIFIED
This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.
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