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Sec. Laird
5:40 p. m.
9/19/69
Laird wanted to know if there were any cuts that effect Nato or Taiwan.
K said he wanted to get the Under Secretaries to discuss consultations
procedures on that business. Laird said he would hold up on the ships
in that case, but that would be the only thing we should hold up on. We
can go with the 25 other sh;ips and go with the Air Force package. We
won't announce the other days, about the Marines that go to Okinawa.
The 5th Marines will be reduced at Pendelton. K saw no problems
in that.
Laird said he had gone over this memo, but hadn't had a chance to katt
discuss it with anyone. Laird had been looking at how many committees
we have. Everything in that is something we have in NSSM 3 that was
reviewed by the Under Secretaries. He thought we were "committeeing"
ourselves to death. K said, after a decision is made on NSSM 3,
it would save Laird from getting BOB directive telling him to cutt
$3 billion without having this cleared. Laird thought there should be a
separate instead of Under Secretaries committee. K said he was going
to Camp David and would raise the question with the President.
Laird thought we should take a long look so we don't have too many
committees studying the same things. He thought it would be good to
have some sort of buffer there. Mayo is the only one who is different
on it. K said he would talke to the President to see if we could redefine
it. Laird said he spends several hours each morning on Vietnam,
and his people the the people that XXXX work with him have SO many
comittees to attend. K said we haven't done anything new on Vietnam.
The committee is just go work on the figures that everyone is moving
around. It is a substitute for the Rxxxxxx Review Group. Laird said
that
Packard wasn't working on Vietnam so Lair d would have to brief him.
K siggested sending Nutter then. K said the problem with the Review
Group, when it gets into technical subjects, they don't always have the
competent people there. This would substitute on Vietnam matters.
& Laird said they don't have their input properly presented on this basis.
He would have to send Dave. K said he could send Nutter and we would
have Sullivan from State. Laird asked K to come over and discuss it
over lunch. K suggested they wait until next week.
Laird wanted to know how K thought the draft thing came out and K thought
it was good. Laird pointed out that Mendall Rivers came over to our side
at the end.
Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library
DECLASSIFIED
This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.
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