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Frank Shakespeare
Mr. Kissinger
October 6, 1969 -- 7:17 p.m.
Shakespeare said he felt he should cover several points with K
before his dinner with William Buckley, which had come out of
a long (3-4 hour) dinner he had with Buckley in New York about
10 days ago. (1) Buckley said he thought the conservative group
in this country was becoming increasingly concerned about Vietnam.
Buckley feels that in about 2 months, that group will be opening up
and being very critical of the Administration. He felt the reason
for this was the group's feeling that the Administration wasn't being
strong enough. In response to a query by Shakespeare, Buckley had
said the two-month timetable was pretty definite.
(2) Buckley had told Shakespeare he wanted to register again with K
his feeling about the concept of a volunteer army in Vietnam. K said
he had received Buckley's ideas on this.
(3) Shakespeare said Buckley's third item was related to a personal
matter. The conservative party has put him under enormous pressure
in New York because of their outrage at Goodell. They are anxious
to knock Goodell out much as they did Lindsey in the primary. They
want Bill to run against Goodell. In order to do this, he must change
his registration by January 1970 from Stamford to New York, even
though the primary (?) would not be until April. As soon as he changes
his registration, there is bound to be a lot of speculation as to why he
is doing it. Buckley wondered how his role on the Advisory Commission
would relate to this.
(4) Buckley, at the time of their dinner, was anxious to have a chat
with K because he said he was puzzled -- he had, in response to K's
suggestion, come up with a certain plan of action on the matter discussed
by K with him. K had said it wasn't a good plan of action. K said he
planned to take this up with Buckley at dinner.
Shakespeare then said he wanted to mention one final piece of intelligence.
When he was in Vietnam, he was immensely disturbed at the caliber of
the reporters, and the reporting, going on. He felt at that time that
the Laos and Thailand situations were going to blow as a result of
conversations he had. When he got back, he told Stanton and Buckley
as members of the Advisory Commission to take a look at Laos,
Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library
DECLASSIFIED
This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.
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