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- 2 - K said that we are finally getting Laird around. P added that Rogers is xix now sold on what we are doing and couldn't figure out why. He(R) didn't raise ceasefire or other things. Part of the fact could be that we have an option to the right. K said they are all terrified as to what you will do on November 1. Enough of that has been picked up. K said he had talked briefly with Mixt Mitchell but will be seening him at length tomorrow (Thursday). K said he was giving alot of thought if the P decided not to go right on November 1 due to the elections in New Jersey: K added that the P could do a number of things that would give him another month for decisions. The P said what he would like to do something on Nov. 1 anyway. K thought maybe a report to the people. The President wanted to do more. K said he should make a move that would indicate to the American people a greater interst in piece. The P said rather than react to October 15, le it go and then announce that we will ask for time on November 1 for major announcement. The P said something about next summer? it wouldn't be too late to go hard then. He would rather do it two months before elections or maybe one month before. Will you ever gorget the Cuban Missile Crisis. (Missed conversation to answer phone) K said it might really worry them if you revealed, on November 1, every secret contact we have had. That would be very unsisual and something we might consider doing if we had prac tically given up on them. You could mention my(K's) discussion with Xuan Thuy, the letter to Ho Chi Minh and say all of these I(the P) have done and the only thing that is left The P said he would leave Rogers out of this completely. K said in five days, the guys that ran on peace program what more would they want other than unilateral withdrawal. They would have to figure we had some- thing else in mind. The P said the real question is whether we have the peaceniks The President said he couldn't believe it was really that bad (referring to Oct. 15) and asked if K thought there was still 40% chance. K said yes, before Oct. 15 he didn't feel anything would happen. K said if the P lets all these protests go and the give them all the secret, public and semi-secret contacts out, it will take some of the steam out of November 14. It will hurt Minor in New Jersey. It would mean to Hanoi that you are ready to clobber them. The President glxx thought we may get a break sometime bewween now and November 1 but K thought it may be as late as December 1. And, K added we have that SAC exercise next week. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.

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